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Cycleguy007 said:LOL!
Whatever you say CB... but don't be pulling me into your gay fantasies...
Butt with c-b, it's not a fantasy.
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Ok, I'm back. My apologies, work got in the way of my fun.
I just have a couple more disclaimers before I begin.
I am assuming that the reader here is not entirely socially inept. We all have issues, but if you pee yourself every time a pretty girl talks to you, you need professional help. I am no professional. Honestly I don't even know if I'm any good at meeting, (notice I did not say picking up), women. I just know that I, for the most part, do not have any problems finding dates. I am not the kind of player that one would find on 'Keys to the VIP', I'd get eaten alive in that scenario. I'm just an average 40 something dude with a belly and a bit of game.
Okay, are we straight with all this stuff.
Oh, and for the love of god, please don't think of this as a pick up manual. That is fucking cheesy.
Here we go.
My five top picks of places for meeting women are, (in other words I've had multiple successes at these venues):
Canada's Wonderland, CNE or other type of fair
The Hospital, (or walk in clinic)
Trade, hobby, sports memorabilia shows
Sporting events
Public transit.
So, what is it that I like about all these places? Tons of things. The biggest one is that there is the time factor, none of these places are rushed, and there usually is a line or a fair amount of waiting. Waiting = boredom. NO ONE likes to be bored. If I am able to cure the problem of someones boredom, I think I have a better chance. Now take the bar or club for example. Lots of people, lots of distraction, loud music, worries about running out of a drink, tons of competition, fast paced environment. Is that really a conducive environment for meeting someone? For some it might be, for myself more often than not it is not. I mean I have, but it is not my top choice of public venue for meeting someone.
Secondly, there are tons of people around. This is good on soooo many levels, to me it is golden. The world is my wingman or wingwoman, and the best part is that they don't even know it.
Ponder this...
Here I am at the Woman Show, and (for the moment) by myself. I see attractive fitness girl wearing ski boots with springs on the bottom bouncing around, (the product she was trying to sell). Me wanting to meet her, the conversation goes something like this...
Me: So, do you have any of those things that would support my fat ass? (with a smile on my face)
Absolutely, do you want to try?
Me: If I break my ankle, you know it's you that will be getting the ice. On second thought, I'd better not. Me on those things in this place would probably be a lot like Godzilla running through Tokyo.
(I hear a few people chuckling)
I turn to one woman and say, You KNOW you want to run down the aisle in these things and take out the ninnies that won't move from the start of the line once they get their food and eat it there, stopping the rest of us.
(a few more chuckles)
Me: So, where can I get some food in there that isn't made with tofu. On second thought, I'd better fatten up for winter, I don't want to have to wear four layers.
So, I would not call this a pick up by any stretch, BUT she will remember me. I made conversation, I made her smile, I made her feel good, along with a few other people around. The best part is later in the show as I was leaving, she did in fact remember me and told me to have a good night.
Me: Hey, you too, and oh, BTW do you have a business card? If I get a pair of those boots I think I might just be unstoppable. Except maybe by physics and the law.
She has a laugh, I get the card. Successful.
I just have a couple more disclaimers before I begin.
I am assuming that the reader here is not entirely socially inept. We all have issues, but if you pee yourself every time a pretty girl talks to you, you need professional help. I am no professional. Honestly I don't even know if I'm any good at meeting, (notice I did not say picking up), women. I just know that I, for the most part, do not have any problems finding dates. I am not the kind of player that one would find on 'Keys to the VIP', I'd get eaten alive in that scenario. I'm just an average 40 something dude with a belly and a bit of game.
Okay, are we straight with all this stuff.
Oh, and for the love of god, please don't think of this as a pick up manual. That is fucking cheesy.
Here we go.
My five top picks of places for meeting women are, (in other words I've had multiple successes at these venues):
Canada's Wonderland, CNE or other type of fair
The Hospital, (or walk in clinic)
Trade, hobby, sports memorabilia shows
Sporting events
Public transit.
So, what is it that I like about all these places? Tons of things. The biggest one is that there is the time factor, none of these places are rushed, and there usually is a line or a fair amount of waiting. Waiting = boredom. NO ONE likes to be bored. If I am able to cure the problem of someones boredom, I think I have a better chance. Now take the bar or club for example. Lots of people, lots of distraction, loud music, worries about running out of a drink, tons of competition, fast paced environment. Is that really a conducive environment for meeting someone? For some it might be, for myself more often than not it is not. I mean I have, but it is not my top choice of public venue for meeting someone.
Secondly, there are tons of people around. This is good on soooo many levels, to me it is golden. The world is my wingman or wingwoman, and the best part is that they don't even know it.
Ponder this...
Here I am at the Woman Show, and (for the moment) by myself. I see attractive fitness girl wearing ski boots with springs on the bottom bouncing around, (the product she was trying to sell). Me wanting to meet her, the conversation goes something like this...
Me: So, do you have any of those things that would support my fat ass? (with a smile on my face)
Absolutely, do you want to try?
Me: If I break my ankle, you know it's you that will be getting the ice. On second thought, I'd better not. Me on those things in this place would probably be a lot like Godzilla running through Tokyo.
(I hear a few people chuckling)
I turn to one woman and say, You KNOW you want to run down the aisle in these things and take out the ninnies that won't move from the start of the line once they get their food and eat it there, stopping the rest of us.
(a few more chuckles)
Me: So, where can I get some food in there that isn't made with tofu. On second thought, I'd better fatten up for winter, I don't want to have to wear four layers.
So, I would not call this a pick up by any stretch, BUT she will remember me. I made conversation, I made her smile, I made her feel good, along with a few other people around. The best part is later in the show as I was leaving, she did in fact remember me and told me to have a good night.
Me: Hey, you too, and oh, BTW do you have a business card? If I get a pair of those boots I think I might just be unstoppable. Except maybe by physics and the law.
She has a laugh, I get the card. Successful.
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Another awesome place to meet women is Plenty of Fish.
There are a few key things (again, in my opinion) that significantly raise ones chances in meeting women on this site.
-a few GOOD pictures
-a GOOD moderately lengthy profile
-a witty first message that is better than 'sup babe?' or 'yer hawt!'
-excellent spelling and grammar
-being able to convey your wants without sounding needy
-asking a lot of questions, (people love to talk about themselves)
There are a couple of things to keep in mind here. There are a great number of women (and men I suppose) who have been on the site for a really, really long time hoping to find their ideal partner. Chances are that if they have not found him after their first 5,000 messages, they probably never will. Therefore, expect some rejection. If someone sends you a message and you are not interested, respond kindly and with tact. You would be surprised at how many people know each other on that site from POF parties and such. It never hurts to message those that have viewed your profile, but do not use a cookie cutter reply. Comment on something that they have said in their profile, it genuinely shows you are interested. This brings me to a really, really important point.
READ THE FUCKING PROFILES INSTEAD OF JUST LOOKING AT THE PICTURES
If the woman does not smoke and does not want to date a smoker, respect it. If she is looking for a relationship, do not try to pick her up as a one night stand. There is no reason a person should not be able to get at least a couple dates a month on that site. Pure gold!
There are a few key things (again, in my opinion) that significantly raise ones chances in meeting women on this site.
-a few GOOD pictures
-a GOOD moderately lengthy profile
-a witty first message that is better than 'sup babe?' or 'yer hawt!'
-excellent spelling and grammar
-being able to convey your wants without sounding needy
-asking a lot of questions, (people love to talk about themselves)
There are a couple of things to keep in mind here. There are a great number of women (and men I suppose) who have been on the site for a really, really long time hoping to find their ideal partner. Chances are that if they have not found him after their first 5,000 messages, they probably never will. Therefore, expect some rejection. If someone sends you a message and you are not interested, respond kindly and with tact. You would be surprised at how many people know each other on that site from POF parties and such. It never hurts to message those that have viewed your profile, but do not use a cookie cutter reply. Comment on something that they have said in their profile, it genuinely shows you are interested. This brings me to a really, really important point.
READ THE FUCKING PROFILES INSTEAD OF JUST LOOKING AT THE PICTURES
If the woman does not smoke and does not want to date a smoker, respect it. If she is looking for a relationship, do not try to pick her up as a one night stand. There is no reason a person should not be able to get at least a couple dates a month on that site. Pure gold!
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Here is part of a PM I recently received.
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....im in my mid to late 30's very successful professional career. i guess im one of those guys who dont have "it"
anyway, is it really that easy, or maybe my standards are too high. do you still think its easy if your looking for a 9, who is smart successful and independant, with a bangin body?!?! is that too much to ask.....
Ok, you are younger than I am, and it sounds like you have a better career than I do, so in that aspect you are probably better off. It really sucks when you have to ask your date to borrow bus chance so you can get home.
Is it really that easy? Yes and no. Make no mistake here, by no means do I pick up every woman I talk to, I have never claimed anything close to that. All I have ever said is that I do not have a problem meeting women. Not even close. I might go on a date with maybe like 1 in 100 that I take an interest in. Maybe more, maybe less. Is it easy for me to talk to women? Yes. Can I handle rejection? Yes. Am I a flirt? Sometimes. Do I ever royally fuck it up beyond all hope for repair. Absolutely.
I really, really don't believe that there is an 'it'. If there is, i can look you in the eye and say that I don't have it either. Here is what there 'is' as far as I can tell.
-Look the part, (whatever that is). Some guys can do emo or goth, I can't. Some can go to high end clubs, I can't. Some guys look great in an Armani suit, I don't. BUT apparently I clean up real good, I'm just not modernly fashionable. The fact of the matter is that everyone is attracted to a certain type of person. Some men like blondes, some brunettes, some like slender women, some like larger, some like older, some younger, some like a zest for life, confidence and well read, others like a floozie. Women see the same in us. No matter what you are not going to attract every woman. Shit, half the women out there aren't even looking to begin with.
Take me for example. I'm a pretty big guy. 5'10, 240 lbs. (I wish I could say that it was all muscle), bald head, full beard, big voice. Some women I scare the shit out of just by my appearance, others feel safe and protected when they are around me. I can't expect every woman to like the way I look, neither should you. The hottest woman I know, and I mean this woman is like supermodel good looking, really likes what many of us would call 'geeks and nerds'.
I can blend in in a country bar, a dive bar, a Woman Show, live theatre. I can talk to a lawyer in the same manner as a construction worker, in the same manner as a Playboy bunny.
So, to answer the question is it possible to date 9+ looking women who are independent and have a slammin' body, the answer is yes. BUT (again there is that but word), if you are only looking at nines and above, you are missing out on the vast majority of the population and your chances of getting a date will drop significantly. I'm not saying to lower your standards, but sometimes you never know how great things might work out from someone you never expected it from.
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....im in my mid to late 30's very successful professional career. i guess im one of those guys who dont have "it"
anyway, is it really that easy, or maybe my standards are too high. do you still think its easy if your looking for a 9, who is smart successful and independant, with a bangin body?!?! is that too much to ask.....
Ok, you are younger than I am, and it sounds like you have a better career than I do, so in that aspect you are probably better off. It really sucks when you have to ask your date to borrow bus chance so you can get home.
Is it really that easy? Yes and no. Make no mistake here, by no means do I pick up every woman I talk to, I have never claimed anything close to that. All I have ever said is that I do not have a problem meeting women. Not even close. I might go on a date with maybe like 1 in 100 that I take an interest in. Maybe more, maybe less. Is it easy for me to talk to women? Yes. Can I handle rejection? Yes. Am I a flirt? Sometimes. Do I ever royally fuck it up beyond all hope for repair. Absolutely.
I really, really don't believe that there is an 'it'. If there is, i can look you in the eye and say that I don't have it either. Here is what there 'is' as far as I can tell.
-Look the part, (whatever that is). Some guys can do emo or goth, I can't. Some can go to high end clubs, I can't. Some guys look great in an Armani suit, I don't. BUT apparently I clean up real good, I'm just not modernly fashionable. The fact of the matter is that everyone is attracted to a certain type of person. Some men like blondes, some brunettes, some like slender women, some like larger, some like older, some younger, some like a zest for life, confidence and well read, others like a floozie. Women see the same in us. No matter what you are not going to attract every woman. Shit, half the women out there aren't even looking to begin with.
Take me for example. I'm a pretty big guy. 5'10, 240 lbs. (I wish I could say that it was all muscle), bald head, full beard, big voice. Some women I scare the shit out of just by my appearance, others feel safe and protected when they are around me. I can't expect every woman to like the way I look, neither should you. The hottest woman I know, and I mean this woman is like supermodel good looking, really likes what many of us would call 'geeks and nerds'.
I can blend in in a country bar, a dive bar, a Woman Show, live theatre. I can talk to a lawyer in the same manner as a construction worker, in the same manner as a Playboy bunny.
So, to answer the question is it possible to date 9+ looking women who are independent and have a slammin' body, the answer is yes. BUT (again there is that but word), if you are only looking at nines and above, you are missing out on the vast majority of the population and your chances of getting a date will drop significantly. I'm not saying to lower your standards, but sometimes you never know how great things might work out from someone you never expected it from.
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All very good points A1. I don't have trouble meeting civi women either. It really boils down to breaking the ice and starting a conversation.
Sorry AP for the purpose of this tutorial which you have so eloquently layed out I am going to have to out you so all know what you look like. Normally this is Legvulin's job but since he is MIA I will help out.
What lady wouldn't love a mug like this!!
Sorry AP for the purpose of this tutorial which you have so eloquently layed out I am going to have to out you so all know what you look like. Normally this is Legvulin's job but since he is MIA I will help out.
What lady wouldn't love a mug like this!!
I'm a single young guy and find talking to ladies that I would rate over 8 quite intimidating. I can't explain it but a feeling of anxiety rushes into my body and I usually walk away. At the same time I can see an SP that I would rate a 9.5 and I am fine. It's strange but it's a feeling that is very hard to over come in my case.
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A1P made some good suggestions about locations and the PM made some as well, but the desire to aim only at 9+ women tells me your really limiting yourself to only 10% of the female population. It's no secret why you don't score as often as you like. What's wrong with an 8 with a bullet (money, self-sufficient, can tell a joke without queue cards). Even the standard threads in this BB show that one persons 9 is another persons 7.5 so it's really a weak target. I've had one of my best New Years dates with a women who was one of the most popular women at work and a real beauty, but no one had asked her out because they figure she's already had plans. I return for the holidays and was blown away that she had no plans.
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Good one, let's pick on the sad and weak :slap:
Good one, let's pick on the sad and weak :slap:
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SillyGirl said:
I hope he is thinking of the cafeteria and not the chapel or Emergency..
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SillyGirl said:
No problem! I'm great at penicillin-related humour.
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a 1 player said:
No such thing as a good picture of me. :arf:
This is where I'm screwed. Try as I might, I can not seem to write a profile for myself. I have too much trouble trying to sell myself, as I see myself so negatively. Nor can I see anyone finding my 'interests' interesting, as many of them are 'personal', or unusual.
You haven't seen me in chat then, lol. I'm like the Spanish Inquisition.
I have a little more complete a profile over on OK Cupid, and that's one thing I do like reading is their profiles. I very nearly contacted one because I loved the sense of humour she displayed in her's.
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Blank_Dave said:
I declare bullshit. Have you been to a professional photographer? I don't mean one of those bullshit Walmart studios where they have specific poses that they have to take, but one that can really capture your true personality? I'm no professional, but I've taken dozens of 'portrait' shots and to date there has still not been a person who has not looked good, and I'm not talking about Photoshoping the shit out of the picture either. Spend the money, get a good photographer who does the kind of work you like. It is a great investment.
Blank_Dave said:
If you can't write one, have somebody else write one for you. Tell them what you want to say, and let them reword it. Better yet, check out some mens profiles from far away places, and if you like what they wrote, steal it. It's not like you are writing a college essay here, the idea is to get you a date.
Apart from banging hookers and watching porn, how bad can your hobbies be? One of my friends has 'juggling while riding a unicycle' as a hobby, (true). Beat that.
Blank_Dave said:
Asking questions is good, but it is not an inquisition. Remember it is also equally important for a woman to get to know YOU.
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One question. Why did you not contact her? Oh, and by the way, fear of being rejected is not a valid answer.
Best places to meet women?
In bed.
Even the dumbest guy faced by even the most mysterious of signals women supposedly give off (we often have to be professional code breakers to detect let alone properly interpret them), knows what 'get in here big boy' means.
Otherwise, A1P has some good ideas, even if Brad had to sift through pointless thread-hijacker waffle to read 'em.
In bed.
Even the dumbest guy faced by even the most mysterious of signals women supposedly give off (we often have to be professional code breakers to detect let alone properly interpret them), knows what 'get in here big boy' means.
Otherwise, A1P has some good ideas, even if Brad had to sift through pointless thread-hijacker waffle to read 'em.
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Brad Pitt said:
Just to so how distorted/paranoid my thinking is. If I found myself in that situation, I would...
- Look over my shoulder to see if she was talking to some else.
- Wonder just what the gig/joke/trick/trap is going to be.
- Say "Ok, what do you want moved..."
My history is such that when people approach me it for primarily two reasons: to use me, or to 'play' me.
