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Does she deserve to be body slammed?.

JJ Mitchell

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This is a good comment.

This wasn't a fight between a girl & a boy. This was a fight between a person & another person. Whether you think it's right to hit a girl or not, she swung first, therefore HE gets to decide if he wants to take action or not.

And, he never even hit any of the girls anyways. He just prevented them from hitting him. When he body slammed the girl to the ground, his arm prevented her head from hitting the concrete & no, he didn't cause her to have a seizure.

It's been stated many times & confirmed by him that she has seizures occasionally. When she was hitting him, she had the audacity to tell him that he better not hit her, but she has every right too, right ?

 
When a person asks you to leave their property.


Then leave.
 
He asked her to leave, she wouldn't, she attacked him, he was defending himself and he body slammed her very carefully so she didn't hit her head.
 
it looks like she was on governments property aka sidewalk..just dont understand the need for physical violence. Just walk away.
 
Sure her head didn't hit the ground, but he landed on top of her. That's gonna hurt no matter what. Bad situation altogether.
 
Showed this to my girlfriend when I got home from work, she believes it was excessive to fling her like that, but also said she shouldn't have expected something else to happen. So I asked her how does the guy end the situation in a less violent way and we both kind of agree that pushing her away or grabbing her would have just heated her up more... So his only real option was to run away.

This kind of annoys me. Women get treated like children in this regard. They get angry and in the heat of the moment swing, but we as men are supposed to know better, when we're also angry and our adrenaline is flowing. We are expected to exhibit more mature behavior than people that are our equals.

All that being said, if you put me in this dudes shoes, I'm just going to run the fuck away. My pride isn't so fragile that it can't handle me getting roasted cause I ran away from a girl. Well worth it to avoid any of this nonsense... Also I'm not trash, so I don't see myself winding up in this situation ever.
 
It all got violent really fast. I'd like to think that if the guy hadn't grabbed the girl when he did, one of his buddies or even one of the girl's buddies would have pulled them apart. He probably only had to endure a few more seconds. He likely wasn't thinking straight either, and thus the violence. For me, it's not about gender, it's about size.
 
Watching this makes me shudder. I married into a family of 5 sisters and 2 brothers where the women were as warrish as they come. They never hesitated to throw the first punch and would intentionally escalate the violence until their partners finally snapped; then cry foul to anyone that would listen. It was female on male physical abuse, plain and simple and it's never talked about. I believe that if you initiate violence, you'd better be prepared for whatever follows, regardless of gender. I don't think anyone should get a pass when they choose to engage in physical violence against another. This girl entered his personal space aggressively, attempted genital impact and didn't retreat when he indicated he would engage. All instinctively clear signs this would escalate and she chose to continue. Did he engage too quickly? It probably would have petered out if he had backed off and waited. But from the sounds of it, this was the final straw of an ongoing issue and she was obviously looking for a climax (pun intended) to the situation that would bring closure. Some people need that final blowout drama. Imo, his real mistake was engaging to begin with, first contact. Regardless of gender, violence is not an option unless it's prenegotiated and in my world, paid for...

smiles, cat

p.s. a tip from a cat - From personal experience, if you ever encounter Final Blowout Drama Kings/Queens; run. Run fast and far. Don't engage, even on a casual level no matter how attractive it may seem to be; their base energy is toxic and will eventually destroy everything good in and around them. Look at their personal relationship histories to identify them. If every one ends with a C4 conclusion, you know and are amply forewarned. Just saying...
 
Prim0 said:
If had been to guys and the homeowner defended himself the same way with the same outcome, would anyone care?


Are women and men equal and should they be treated equally under the law or are we going to have special treatment based on gender?




Look, I'm as chivalrous as they come. I was raised mostly by women and have never and would never raise my hand to a lady. But that doesn't change the argument of the principle of equality. I admit that my chivalry makes me sexist. But if you want really true equality, then you have to let that go. Treat everyone as an individual genderless, raceless, religiousless being. As soon as you say that two are equal, then add exceptions for any reason at all, you are admitting that both are not equal.

If you believe in equality, this "lady" initiated the assault and he defended himself physically until the threat stopped.

Case closed, well said.
 
Gee whiz, where are all the "I'don't never lay a hand on a woman" White Knights?

I mean it wasn't that long ago when we saw a video in a bar in which a lady punched a guy, and he puneed her back with interest. As I recall many here, which included a number of posters above me, were quite quick to chastise the guy in the video. As well, a couple of posters felt she was well with in her rights too.

So what's changed the opinions as of late.
 
Blank_Dave said:
Gee whiz, where are all the "I'don't never lay a hand on a woman" White Knights?

I mean it wasn't that long ago when we saw a video in a bar in which a lady punched a guy, and he puneed her back with interest. As I recall many here, which included a number of posters above me, were quite quick to chastise the guy in the video. As well, a couple of posters felt she was well with in her rights too.

So what's changed the opinions as of late.

Being in a bar as opposed to defending himself on his own property might make a difference in people's minds. I can't remember how many times the woman hit the guy in the bar before he hit back. I do remember the video, and punching a woman in the face is different than laying her out on the ground.
 
escapefromstress said:
Being in a bar as opposed to defending himself on his own property might make a difference in people's minds. I can't remember how many times the woman hit the guy in the bar before he hit back. I do remember the video, and punching a woman in the face is different than laying her out on the ground.

Can you post that video?.
 
I think this was the thread but the video has been removed from YouTube.
 
Prim0 said:
Everyone crying for equality has changed things. I don't recall the video you mention so I can't really answer what I may have said at that time. In this situation, both could have avoided the incident but made choices to act a certain way and that came with consequences. If the other video had a woman strike the man and he defended himself, then so be it. If there was other information, then we'd have to have a look at it again.

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