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Elderly woman dies after nurse refuses to do CPR.

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BAKERSFIELD, Calif. (AP) — An elderly woman being cared for at a Bakersfield retirement facility died after a nurse at the facility refused to perform CPR on the woman after she collapsed, authorities said.

When the 87-year-old resident of Glenwood Gardens collapsed at the facility around 11 a.m. Tuesday, a staff member called 911 but refused to give the woman CPR, Bakersfield television station ABC23 ( ) reported Friday.

In refusing the 911 dispatcher's insistence that she perform CPR, the nurse can be heard telling the dispatcher that it was against the retirement facility's policy to perform CPR.


During the exchange between the nurse and the dispatcher, the dispatcher can be heard saying "I don't understand why you're not willing to help this patient."


An ambulance arrived several minutes after the call and took the woman to a hospital, where she was later pronounced dead. She has been identified as Lorraine Bayless, a resident of the home's independent facility, which is separate from the skilled and assisted nursing facility.


The retirement facility released a statement extending its condolences to the family and said its "practice is to immediately call emergency medical personnel for assistance and to wait with the individual needing attention until such personnel arrives."
The statement also said a "thorough internal review of the matter" would be conducted.


A call to the facility by The Associated Press seeking more information on the incident was not immediately returned.


Freaked me out.


 
Common sense is sadly lacking these days.

I can understand this if the elderly woman had signed a DNR... but if that had been the case, the nurse wouldn't have called 911 at all, and let nature take it's course. Although there is no legal obligation to do so, (administer CPR in an emergency situation) once having entered into the fray - the nurse is now in a nurse-client relationship and is bound by a duty of care to that client. As a RN myself, I have stopped and assisted persons in a medical emergency on 3 separate occasions giving CPR to person's who have collapsed out in public, following my duty of care, and providing what CPR and first aid I could. But to not do so at your own facility, as a paid employee is very strange... Regardless of the facilities policy, she has an obligation to her licencing body, I suspect she will have to answer to the College of Nurses on this one....
 
Common sense is not a given and this did happen in California, USA where their laws are vastly different and suing for acting happens. I'm not certain if the USA or independent states have a good sammaritan law, but we do in Canada. In fact, if you are trained in CPR/FA and you stop to check and don't act, you could be up the creek without a paddle. Additionally, you can only stop, if you as the responder become exhausted or the situation becomes dangerous to continue or you are relieved by professionals.

As a Red Cross instructor trainer and government trainer, I have been involved in emergencies, heard of and witnessed awful situations.
 
Good Samaritan Laws do exist in some areas of the US, but they have been challenged in civil lawsuits. Even for people who sign DNRs and are then not given CPR, relatives have sued. I'm just happy I live in a country where the health and legal system is sooooo much better.

Did anyone read the Time report on US Health Care?
 
Legal theories aside, she is one cold hearted individual to be able to stand by and watch someone reach their end without raising a hand. She's definitely in the wrong line of work.
 
Legal theories aside, she is one cold hearted individual to be able to stand by and watch someone reach their end without raising a hand. She's definitely in the wrong line of work.


the exact reason I never went into nursing
 
when my X was in nursing school I worked as her study partner and help her with studying for the boards too.

She noted I could pass the boards and back then that was all you needed to become a nurse.

I did not feel I would be able to care enough if people lived to follow through.
I figure once you stop giving a crap you need ot move away from health care.
 
I have been certified a few times in CPR and I have never had to apply the procedure on anyone. In class, it is always covered that you will break a few ribs when performing CPR correctly. Can anyone relay what type of internal trauma will occur to an elderly patient receiving CPR?
 
I have been certified a few times in CPR and I have never had to apply the procedure on anyone. In class, it is always covered that you will break a few ribs when performing CPR correctly. Can anyone relay what type of internal trauma will occur to an elderly patient receiving CPR?

broken ribs are common there is always a risk of punctuing a lung but that is minimal.

today AEDs are required by law in SNFs and that damned near eliminates the need for CPR or at least prolonged application of it.

if you have not been AED trained the instructions and the device are almost fool proof.
 
if you have not been AED trained the instructions and the device are almost fool proof.

AEDs are a great lifesaving device, and while you'd think the use would be pretty obvious based on the clear instructions, you'd be surprised at some of the mental midgets who try things with those paddles...ask any ER quack. There are stories that would make you gringe.
 
AEDs are a great lifesaving device, and while you'd think the use would be pretty obvious based on the clear instructions, you'd be surprised at some of the mental midgets who try things with those paddles...ask any ER quack. There are stories that would make you gringe.

that would not surprise me

I have a few experiments I want to do with one.
no it does not involve people or animals.
 
CNN was reporting that the nursing home is standing behind the employee, who followed their policy.

How would you like to have been the 911 dispatcher in this situation.
 
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