Falling down the rabbit hole.... For you Art

[Anneliese]

Falling down the Rabbit hole was first coined to me by the lovely Art Mann in an in depth PM discussion, and it struck me as bizarre then, but strangely apropos.

For indeed, I feel like I have descended into a whole other world... where all the rules of social decorum and political correctness that I once knew have all completely changed. Not that I perceive that as a bad thing, quite the reverse.... I relish the honesty, and the open expression of and eager celebration of human sexuality.

Certainly Europe, and also the UK are much more open and accepting of this type of behaviour. I recall at one of our dinner parties, one of my ex-husband's colleagues from France commenting on the North American obsession with our Politician's indiscretions, particularly during political campaigns.

His perspective was that in France, if the President DIDN'T have a mistress, then he wouldn't vote for him as he wasn't really a man, and hence couldn't be a very good leader (Alpha traits and all that... LOL!) I liked that way of thinking - it is more honest I think. In Canada and the US, we are a society still struggling with our Calvinist and Puritanical past.

An obsession with work, pure thoughts, and rigid responsibility to an impossible Christian ideal of right behaviour. Having been raised in a very rigid, Catholic upbringing, where intensive brainwashing and shame were the flavour of the day, it is only in recent years that I have been able to let it all go, particularly with the death of my mother last January.

She was really the arbiter of "right" behaviour in my immediate family- I miss her desperately, and love her still yet in a way I have been freed. I have been able to fully explore and express this crazy, intense, sexual side that I suppressed during my marriage and motherhood as I tried to fit into a mold that just didn't fit.

Anneliese the wild, artistic, bellydancing-on-the-tables, risk-taking, sexually free woman was bottled up for the last decade, and only now has been released once again like a genie from the bottle. Watch out Toronto..... She's BAAAAAACCCCCKKKK!!:yahoo2:

 

[Dan]

Lmao, great post and so true, that's why I love when Clinton was President!

 

[God]

Funky & Music

 

[Baz]

Annaliese, is your career path in search of the golden pay day a wise choice for a "soccer mom"? I can understand the lure of the easy money. I understand nobody likes to work at McDonald's and Tim Horton's for minimum wage but imagine your children discovering your online ads, is this not a concern? You mentioned loosing your mom has now released your inhibitions but you still do have family that your choices can have devastating consequences. I'm not trying to judge you and the choice is ultimately yours, I'm only giving you a little something to think about.

 

[Anto]

Falling down the Rabbit hole was first coined to me by the lovely Art Mann in an in depth PM discussion, and it struck me as bizarre then, but strangely apropos. For indeed, I feel like I have descended into a whole other world... where all the rules of social decorum and political correctness that I once knew have all completely changed. Not that I perceive that as a bad thing, quite the reverse.... I relish the honesty, and the open expression of and eager celebration of human sexuality. Certainly Europe, and also the UK are much more open and accepting of this type of behaviour. I recall at one of our dinner parties, one of my ex-husband's colleagues from France commenting on the North American obsession with our Politician's indiscretions, particularly during political campaigns. His perspective was that in France, if the President DIDN'T have a mistress, then he wouldn't vote for him as he wasn't really a man, and hence couldn't be a very good leader (Alpha traits and all that... LOL!) I liked that way of thinking - it is more honest I think. In Canada and the US, we are a society still struggling with our Calvinist and Puritanical past. An obsession with work, pure thoughts, and rigid responsibility to an impossible Christian ideal of right behaviour. Having been raised in a very rigid, Catholic upbringing, where intensive brainwashing and shame were the flavour of the day, it is only in recent years that I have been able to let it all go, particularly with the death of my mother last January. She was really the arbiter of "right" behaviour in my immediate family- I miss her desperately, and love her still yet in a way I have been freed. I have been able to fully explore and express this crazy, intense, sexual side that I suppressed during my marriage and motherhood as I tried to fit into a mold that just didn't fit. Anneliese the wild, artistic, bellydancing-on-the-tables, risk-taking, sexually free woman was bottled up for the last decade, and only now has been released once again like a genie from the bottle. Watch out Toronto..... She's BAAAAAACCCCCKKKK!!:yahoo2:

Glad to see you back but paragraphing would help these eyes.

 

[Maurice Boscorelli]

Quick get some earth and cover up that hole.

 

[Anneliese]

Annaliese, is your career path in search of the golden pay day a wise choice for a "soccer mom"? I can understand the lure of the easy money. I understand nobody likes to work at McDonald's and Tim Horton's for minimum wage but imagine your children discovering your online ads, is this not a concern? You mentioned loosing your mom has now released your inhibitions but you still do have family that your choices can have devastating consequences. I'm not trying to judge you and the choice is ultimately yours, I'm only giving you a little something to think about.

Hey Baz,
Thankyou for the query, your question is valid. In fact, never had to work at a low paying job... always had enough education and experience to have good, valuable, and meaningful work. Most recently as a Nurse-Manager in a Homecare agency. Unfortunately, all of this work I found deeply dissatisfying.

I have a love-hate relationship with the nursing profession.... I think I have expressed that in previous posts here on this site. So I guess what I am trying to express to you, is that I am CHOOSING this work deliberately, enjoying this work immensely, and ultimately feeling NO shame about doing so.

I am NOT ashamed of anyone including my children finding out.... I am one of those parents that openly discusses sex, and sexual anatomy with her children.... My kids are well aware of their bodies, and gender differences, and any questions asked of me regardless of age are given an age appropriate explanation with books and pictures and the like.

Although I won't volunteer the information, if my child should ask, I will answer truthfully as to the work that I do. It is you, and your religious lot that choose to perceive me and my sex worker peers as inadequate, immoral and otherwise, and that is your limitation, and your issue ultimately - NOT mine.

I see myself as a free, sexually open and expressive woman celebrating the gifts of the Goddess, ("All acts of love and pleasure are mine..." Charge of the Goddess..... )in an open expression of love and sharing of my gifts with men in a sacred union of prostitution..... It is all in the way you look at it.....

 

[Anneliese]

Quick get some earth and cover up that hole.

Too late MB... we are all lost.... fallen and forsaken... the question now is how do we find our way back? Or do we want to?

 

[Art Mann]

Quick get some earth and cover up that hole.

Not a good idea, Maurice.

It's the same rabbit hole you fell down, so you'd be cutting off your own oxygen supply. I would hate to see you expire for lack of oxygen. As would I hate to see that fate for any other guest at this Mad Hatter's Tea Party.

The characters I have come to know here in The Llobby rival any that Lewis Carroll ever conceived in his Victorian imagination. Poor Alice thought she'd seen the bizarre brought to life, but The Queen of Hearts, The Mock Turtle, The Gryphon, The March Hare and The Cheshire Cat all pale in comparison to the characters who inhabit this particular little underworld.

Where else could I find such a steamy, sexual, sensuous, funky, funny, wonky assortment of characters? Even Elmore Leonard couldn't dream up the conversations and the voices that appear here.

Like Miss Anneliese, "I relish the honesty, and the open expression of and eager celebration of human sexuality" in this environment.

Down the rabbit hole and straight to the Mat Hatter's Tea Party, indeed.

GOD is here, Jesus was for a while, but then Quintamo left, and dammit, he didn't come back three days later. From tboy to reverse, peace to Guido, Bridgette to Blank Dave, Krya to Madman, Blissful to Transient, Amy to Fang (you owe me one for your spot in line, bro), from Honeybee to HOF, from Annaliese to bazerko . . . the list goes on and on and on . . . Every one of you are amazing, fascinating characters.

But special mention goes to SillyGirl, whose voice I miss dearly right now, because she has always been such a level head in such a crazy environment. Just for full disclosure, lest people think I'm brighter than I am, that phrase "down the rabbit hole" first crossed my ears from the lips of SillyGirl. I am a much wiser man, and a much better person for having her in my cyber-life. As I suspect are most of you.

Likewise I appreciate so many others on this. And Bosco, my friend, although I dig your health threads, your wit and your gifs a great deal, I trust you'll forgive me when I say it's the ladies who make this private underworld most worthwhile.

So dude ... please get your crew back out there to uncover the earth from this rabbit hole.

Let us all breathe deeply, let us all celebrate our human sexuality . . .

And let us all fuck like bunnies as much as we possibly can.

 

[IFUSEEKAMY]

I disagree Art. I understand how and why you would feel this way, but I also thought that after 3 years since you mentioned that phrase to me, you would have evolved. Clearly you haven't grasped how condescending it is to refer to this board as an "underworld" you have "fallen down" into.

 

[Art Mann]

I've never meant to be condescending, Miss Amy, so I apologize if I come off that way.

While the term "underworld" may conjure negative connotations of criminal activity or a mythic journey to Hades, it also carries other meaning. In recent years, it has evoked images of Kate Beckinsale and vampires on the silver screen. In Mayan religion, the "underworld" is a physical series of caves that hold sacred meaning. Similarly in Egypt, caves under the great pyramids are held in holy esteem. And let's not forget the amazing underworld that supports our cities, the interconnecting subway lines, the tunnels from tower to tower, where life is abundant despite lack of daylight. And from even darker depths, those heroes of folklore, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

I use the term underworld in the sense of "a hidden world," where "the hobby" is accepted as a way of life. Above ground, it carries stigma, which we all recognize and which we attempt to avoid by tacitly agreeing not "to out" one another. Above ground, in the ordinary "civilian" world, most people don't know this hobbying "community" exists. So this "world" we inhabit here, is a "secret" world, well below the radar of the general public.

We all find our way here via different paths. Some of us may have never felt there is anything secretive about this lifestyle; they've just walked into it like entering a park. Others may have felt, or may still feel, religious guilt, and may therefore consider this lifestyle closer to hell than to heaven. Some may have drifted in, others may have taken the express elevator. Some come to embrace joyful, exuberant sex; others come to preach salvation and chasteness. But most will allow they crossed a line somewhere that separates them from society at large.

Some see this underworld as lonely and dangerous, an addiction to fight off. Others see it as magical place, just like the world Lewis Carroll might have created had he been writing for Playboy magazine rather than a Victorian audience.

I lean to the "magical" perception. And I stick by my analogy.

It's a Mad Hatter's Tea Party.

Go ask Alice.

 

[Cardinal Fang]

If this is the underworld we are sorely lacking a character that best represents Kate Beckinsale in a black body suit.

 

[oldguyzer]

If this is the underworld we are sorely lacking a character that best represents Kate Beckinsale in a black body suit.

Fuck. Oh wait...wrong thread!

 

[Cardinal Fang]

You're such a Farking tease. :biggrin2:

 

[Madman]

Art and Annaliese both of you are wizards in your writing styles.

Me, I need pictures, I'm just not that smart and need constant visual stimulation.

 

[peace]

Art and Annaliese both of you are wizards in your writing styles.

Me, I need pictures, I'm just not that smart and need constant visual stimulation.

:great: :great: