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Good Article Regarding The Prostitution Agenda

We'll deal with the new legislation line by line and find ways to adapt.

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Mrs. Sarah, some gentlemen with be facing federal criminal charges. I doubt one can adapt if he has to fight the brunt of the law. The expenses involved, the shame as Im sure the names would also be published.
 
And before we know it, we have a set of repressive laws like our fine neighbours to the south (who really are neighbors).
 
We need to start protesting very loudly. The ladies especially need to come out swinging as they are being referred to as weak and vulnerable as opposed to entrepreneurs.
 
We need to start protesting very loudly. The ladies especially need to come out swinging as they are being referred to as weak and vulnerable as opposed to entrepreneurs.

Well, no one is going to listen to us, as we have long since been stigmatized as perverts. This will just entrench us as perverts in the law. The ladies are the only ones that can protest this properly.
 
So, I just caught the tail-end of McKay's press conference. It looks like it's not absolutely true that prostitutes can't be charged with anything. Apparently they can be charged if they hold a session in their own homes and children are present! Also prostitutes may be charged if they advertise in a public place. So it's not even as liberal as a Nordic model.
 
View from abroad:

TORONTO — Canada's government is introducing legislation that will make it legal to sell sex privately, but illegal to buy it.

The law is similar to legislation in Sweden that was introduced in 1999, which prosecutes the client but views the prostitute as an exploited victim.

The proposed law is in response to Canada's highest court striking down the country's anti-prostitution laws last year.

The court, ruling in a case brought by three women in the sex trade, struck down bans on keeping a brothel, making a living from prostitution, and street soliciting. The ruling didn't take effect, however, because the court gave Parliament a year to respond with new legislation.

Justice Minister Peter MacKay says the new will law target pimps and "the perverts."
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There you have it folks, we're now officially "perverts"!
 
We need to start protesting very loudly. The ladies especially need to come out swinging as they are being referred to as weak and vulnerable as opposed to entrepreneurs.
I fired off an e-mail to Peter MacKay. I suggest we all complain loudly and forcefully.

Here's what I sent, for those who may which to adapt for their own use:
To the Honourable Mr. Peter Gordon MacKay
Minister of Justice and Attorney General

Mr. MacKay:
I will keep this short.
I have purchased sexual services from prostitutes. I have voted for the federal Conservative party. With the introduction of Bill C-36, I will no longer be doing one of those things.

It is a fundamental assault on the freedoms that Canadians have fought and died to protect to criminalize sexual acts between consenting adults. That is what Bill C-36 essentially does, and like my forefathers who fought to protect this country from tyranny abroad, I will fight tooth and nail to stop you from doing this. If you choose to proceed, I warn that no quarter will be given.

The government has no place in the bedrooms of the nation.

Sincerely,
Jack Bauer
(pseudonym)
 
I admire Jack Bauer's courage - he is after all Jack Bauer. Most of us probably have strong opinions on this subject but would prefer not to be linked to the debate in anyway.
And given the amount of surveillance our government promises to bring to bear on all of us in the name of protecting us makes me actually more afraid than I am of some terrorists.
The moral right brought us the war on drugs and Prohibition and those worked really well. Right?
The irony for me: Reading the opinions and insights of many members I suspect most member might be infact Conservative supporters. We reap what we sow gents.
Mr Trudeau Senior, love him or hate him, got one thing right: "The government has no business in the bedrooms of Canadians." I would suggest the were he around today, he'd said. The government is not in the sex regulation business. We have no businesses in the pants or panties of Canadians. However, we will enthusiastically prosecute the pimps and abusers of women like you can't imagine.
 
I am just glad I have my fav's numbers like most have. So screw the Gov and stick to our regulars.
 
The Harper gov't is full of idiots and a lot of the bills they have been introducing over the last year or two are really sending this country down the tubes. I'm really sick of seeing the likes of Harper, Mackay, Baird, Kenney etc on my TV or reading about them online.
 
Calgary police chief praises Ottawa's prostitution bill

Calgary’s chief of police is applauding the federal government’s proposed prostitution legislation as a balanced approach.

Bill C-36 would make the purchase of sexual services a criminal offence and prohibit the selling of sexual services in public spaces where anyone under the age of 18 could be present.

It would also criminalize the advertising of sexual services in print or online, and take aim at anyone who receives “a material benefit” from prostitution.

Rick Hanson said on the Calgary Eyeopener on Thursday that the Conservative government’s tough new stance against prostitution is the right strategy. “I believe that they did find the balance,” he said.

Hanson said the Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act acknowledges that most people who enter the sex trade do so because they have been abused, suffer from addictions or are victims of human trafficking. “I’ve never talked to a boy or a girl who said, ‘Yeah, when I grow up I want to be a hooker,’” he said.

Hanson said he is pleased the bill would crack down on street-level prostitution where children could be present. “What community wants the message sent to young people that prostitution is OK?”

As many as 3,000 prostitutes work in the sex trade in Calgary, according to a report prepared for city council that was released this week.

Prostitutes found to be selling sex in public places would face fines under the new legislation in most cases, Justice Minister Peter MacKay said.

But the bill proposes tough penalties for pimps and johns — including five-year prison terms, 10 years in cases involving minors.

The proposed legislation is the government's response to a Supreme Court of Canada ruling in December that found the country's prostitution laws were unconstitutional, partly because they put sex trade workers in danger by barring them from communicating with clients.

Some sex-trade workers and their advocates say the new legislation, which goes even further, will force prostitutes into the shadows, making their work more dangerous.

Hanson said it’s not yet clear how aggressively Calgary police will be able to enforce the proposed ban on advertising sexual services. And it’s very likely the legislation will be challenged in court, he said. “There’s going to be a whole lot of lawyers getting rich over the next few years,” he said.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/calgary-police-chief-praises-ottawas-prostitution-bill-140821400.html
 
Rick Hanson said on the Calgary Eyeopener on Thursday that the Conservative government’s tough new stance against prostitution is the right strategy. “I believe that they did find the balance,” he said.

Hanson said the Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act acknowledges that most people who enter the sex trade do so because they have been abused, suffer from addictions or are victims of human trafficking. “I’ve never talked to a boy or a girl who said, ‘Yeah, when I grow up I want to be a hooker,’” he said.

I find that in many cases, women won't explicitly say it's a career goal, and it probably isn't initially, but they may enter it because it seems like good money for something that they would want to be doing anyway. And eventually it doesn't seem like a bad way to go. Others might find it a bad way to go, and they quickly leave it.

But of course asking kids this question before they have entered puberty is as stupid as stupid comes.
 
There are ways, covert and overt, that we can get involved. Like Jack and Hitter, you can write an email using your hobbying email address. You can petition your local MP.
You can also discreetly correct someone's erroneous outspoken opinion, perhaps donate some money to a group that is fighting for Sex Worker rights. C'mon, you guys are smart and clever, there's plenty of ways you can join the fight.
 
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