Is posting reviews now illegal?

[blackram]

Another thing occurred to me about these new Conservative prostitution laws. If they are going to be going after clients of prostitutes, then posting reviews on places like here are evidence against you! Using any of the slang terms we've developed over the years (e.g. DATY, BBBJ, GFE, anal, etc.) will be used as proof that you've been a customer of a prostitute, and that could result in your arrest!

The only thing you could say in a review would be that you've met her, and that's it! Even that might be too much to admit, and you might have to say you met her for coffee or something.

Review: "I met Candi for a coffee. She had an espresso. I had a Sanka. PM me for details."

 

[Exposed]

Law hasn't passed yet and they have no way of knowing who you are.


Don't get paranoid till it becomes law.

 

[Agent86]

Review: "I met Candi for a coffee. She had an espresso. I had a Sanka. PM me for details."

I believe the best way to go is through private clubs. But how many agencies and Indies willing to go that route?.

 

[oldguyzer]

I believe the best way to go is through private clubs. But how many agencies and Indies willing to go that route?.

It will change the dynamics of the business, that's for sure, from both sides.

 

[Wanker]

I am just glad to have my 2 regular MP chicks without baggage.

 

[Raiden]

The law hasn't gone through yet and if the site is based out of the country I don't think and correct me if I'm wrong they can be ordered to hand over ips.

 

[LickingGravity]

The law hasn't gone through yet and if the site is based out of the country I don't think and correct me if I'm wrong they can be ordered to hand over ips.

Exactly. Same for agency computer sites. Maybe even Native reservations like the comuter gambling business.

 

[RAWD]

Sure they can find out your IP addys. But that would require a court order served on HUBGFE, and then matching the IP logs to your ISP (which, until about a month ago, I thought would be an ordeal. But apparently, Rogers bends over like a prison bitch.)

Still, I wouldn't worry about it. I'm here strictly to exercise my creative writing skills. This is all fiction...

 

[DannyDeVito]

Debate was going on at the house of commons at noon.

Anyone with an update?.

 

[HOOKED]

Debate was going on at the house of commons at noon.

Anyone with an update?.

It was suppose to be 3:15 but they are discussing other issues right now. I'm actually listening to C-pac and fighting to not fall asleep.

I can't believe what has happened to this industry thanks to a group of men hating feminists and Peter Mackay!

LADIES OUT ANY CONSERVATIVE MP USING YOUR SERVICES!!!

 

[blackram]

I believe the best way to go is through private clubs. But how many agencies and Indies willing to go that route?.

I don't think so, even private clubs won't be able to escape the scrutiny of this law. All of the previous methods businesses used to get around the law are all out of the window now, the laws have been reset. Now they are specifically targeting businesses that make a profit off of the sexual labor of others, so private clubs won't be exempt from this.

 

[blackram]

The law hasn't gone through yet and if the site is based out of the country I don't think and correct me if I'm wrong they can be ordered to hand over ips.

In or out of the country, we really can't depend on that. We'll have to take precautions not to give them any ammunition to target us with ourselves.

 

[Capo]

If she is correct there is nothing to worry about.

The Harper government’s bill on prostitution smacks of hypocrisy, just like the existing law it is supposed to replace. Prostitution in itself is not completely illegal but the new law would make it nearly impossible for prostitutes to sell their services in a safe environment.

Whereas the old law prohibited solicitation, the new one would prohibit advertising. Such provisions defy logic. Why would people who sell a legal service be prevented from communicating with potential clients? Under the new bill, prostitutes would also be prohibited from working near places where minors might happen to be present or near churches.

Please find me a place in Montreal, for example, where there are no teenagers and where there’s not a church in sight (this, in a city that used to be called “la ville aux cent clochers” – the city with a hundred steeples!).

Well, actually, I can imagine a few places where sex workers could be allowed to practise their trade: along the railway tracks, in dilapidated industrial zones, or in dark, isolated alleys, where they would be easy prey to various sorts of criminals. This is exactly what the Supreme Court wanted to avoid when it stated that prostitutes should work in safe conditions.

As it stands, Bill C-36 would be overturned by the Supreme Court for the same reasons it struck down the old law last December. This is so obvious that one wonders if the government isn’t setting up another confrontation with the Supreme Court in time for the next election, in order to shore up its traditional conservative vote.

The new bill is partly inspired by the so-called “Nordic model” used in Sweden, Norway and Iceland (France is considering it, too), which penalizes the clients but not the prostitutes. Here again, this is a thoroughly irrational scheme. Why prosecute the buyers, but not the sellers? Why allow women (as is most often the case) to sell sexual services if the law makes it more and more difficult for them to find customers?

The risk is that they will be pushed into the underground and accept any quick deal without taking the time to assess what kind of person the customer is.
The major flaw with the Nordic model is its paternalistic attitude toward women, as if all prostitutes were irresponsible creatures unwillingly brought into the sex trade.

True, this is the case of some prostitutes, often illegal immigrants, who are enslaved by smugglers and pimps, and of course the state should act against these criminal networks and help these women escape from their misery.

The exploitation of illegal migrants is especially severe in Western European countries such as Spain and Germany, but in Canada, many prostitutes are independent citizens who freely entered the sex trade and do not feel exploited.

The Nordic model is sexist in that it paints women as perennial victims and customers (who are usually men) as inherently immoral.
There is no need to legalize prostitution. Decriminalizing it would be enough. And Canadians should be mature enough to tolerate the existence of brothels, where sexual services could be sold and purchased safely by consenting adults.

Proponents of the Nordic model believe their system can eventually abolish prostitution but they’re deluding themselves. Prostitution cannot be eradicated by laws. It never has been and never will be.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/sex-work-bill-defies-logic/article19113791/

 

[j]

Useful for rebuttals, and/or if you are in the habit of commenting on articles such as this one, to disseminate the information.



It's astonishing how few articles (and comments on articles) there are in the past few days that come out in support of C-36. The overwhelming bias is against it, for a variety of reasons, and from a variety of opinions.

re: CPAC, and the socalled debate, they seemed to be in the middle of it when i visited the channel, then there was an urgent vote regarding adjournment, and everything stopped dead. when they came back, the big debate issue seemed to be about Lyme Disease. Well, you can see how much more important that is to talk about than C-36, right?

Here is a G&M poll to vote on:


This is an article that illustrates the effects of targeting the clients of street workers, in an effort to determine what a Nordic model (ban on purchase, criminalization of clients) means for sex workers themselves: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...ada-say-sex-worker-advocates/article18981135/

Its authors examined statistics and interviewed 31 street-based sex workers about their experiences following the Vancouver Police Department’s decision to install new enforcement guidelines in January 2013.
The new policy saw a jump of 71 arrests of mainly sex-worker clients last year from 47 in 2012. But rates of work-related physical and sexual violence were nearly unchanged, with a quarter of the sex workers facing harm in the years before and after the policy change.
The study found that the key issues unresolved by only targeting clients were that sex workers in Vancouver remained unable to screen or negotiate with clients, that they were pushed to work in isolated spaces and were unable to access police protection.

 

[zorro]

You should all just calm down and chill. This isn't a law yet and probably won't be.

All of you, review as usual and give your SP business cause they need it and don't be as paranoid as members on other sites. Get informed on who you should contact/Tweeter etc.... Even email your councilor from your hobby email.

Participate on the fight we have here don't just whine and expect the worst.

 

[Domingo]

Isn't it ironic how the government wants to punish us for such a little vice but no one punishes them for draining millions down the dwell?.

 

[Prick]

Isn't it ironic how the government wants to punish us for such a little vice but no one punishes them for draining millions down the dwell?.

You mean giving it to us up our asses while they remain virgins :-Cool/"

 

[blackram]

Even if the worst happens with this new bill...won't you just be in the same boat as the hobbyists in the US? Even with our strict laws, people post reviews and advertise here in the US. Why should it be any different there?

It won't be all that different, as long as we all know and don't care that we are actually breaking the law, as long as the law isn't enforced. You can definitely get away with this for a long period of time. But the first time the law is actually enforced, then it will send a chill down our collective spines. These things happen everywhere with cops, they are given some arbitrary quotas to make, and they go after the easiest arrests.

Even under the previous system, we were aware that law enforcement was monitoring sites like this, and were using it to collect evidence against places like massage spas, and incalls. So we always had to be careful about how we phrased descriptions of these places.

 

[Nash]

You mean giving it to us up our asses while they remain virgins :-Cool/"

Who says they are virgins :unknw:

 

[oldguyzer]

You mean giving it to us up our asses while they remain virgins :-Cool/"

Why is Madman suddenly looking all flushed and excited???? :biggrin2: