Loraine Laney

[blackram]

Right on, now if I could get the ALO discount we'd be in business. I suspect she'll get rid of the glove working at ALO !!

Which one did you want to try for first, ALO or Angels/Paradise?

 

[mmad]

blackram=

Which one did you want to try for first, ALO or Angels/Paradise?

I'd prefer ALO; my first visit would be Alexxandria
btw, I have a Preferencial Card from ALO!

 

[blackram]

I'd prefer ALO; my first visit would be Alexxandria
btw, I have a Preferencial Card from ALO!

Then I think you already have the discounts that you need with that preferential card. I've been seeing them advertise rates lower than what I get from Veronica/Alexandria directly.

 

[Ryan1967]

Hey boys,

I'm back...major bummber about Loraine...She was so uber-convenient for me at her downtown condo, I can't see myself traipsing out to the ALO locations...sigh. Also, her $50/hour with release costing model was unbeatable, I am certain that is no longer the case at ALO.

Will likely be a quiet week for me with over 500 work emails to catch up on...but this Loraine thread certainly caught my eye...in a sad/depressing way...

 

[Skinflute]

Ryan=

Hey boys,

I'm back...

Welcome back, hope you had a GREAT time skiing, have you seen any nice MILF ski bunnies??

I am off to Varadero on Friday morning for a week for some vitamin D . Hope to get a nice massage from a chica :biggrin2:

 

[blackram]

Hey boys,
I'm back...major bummber about Loraine...She was so uber-convenient for me at her downtown condo, I can't see myself traipsing out to the ALO locations...sigh. Also, her $50/hour with release costing model was unbeatable, I am certain that is no longer the case at ALO.
Will likely be a quiet week for me with over 500 work emails to catch up on...but this Loraine thread certainly caught my eye...in a sad/depressing way...

She may see her regulars at her own place after-hours after the problems at her condo die down.

Also at ALO, she may be limited to no more than handjobs, she won't be able to give blowjobs, since she does that with condoms. If other girls discover condoms in the garbage can, it might cause trouble for her.

 

[mmad]

blackram=

Then I think you already have the discounts that you need with that preferential card. I've been seeing them advertise rates lower than what I get from Veronica/Alexandria directly.

Is this the deal you have at ALO (I took this from their website) ??
I was thinking more like $40 for 60 minutes; add $100 for the MA for a total of $140/60. This would be comparable to deals available at other larger establishments for regular customers.

Specials
Members bring your Gold Card for 15% off
Everyday appt required $50.00 per 45 minutes
Early bird specials 9 am to 11 am $40 per 45 minutes
Happy Hr 8 pm to 10 pm $50.00 per 1 hr

 

[blackram]

Yeah, the special I get is $40 for 45 minutes, which is the equivalent of your Early bird special, except mine is any time of the day. I'm betting Veronica will give you the early bird special, if you call her up directly, like I do. I guess it's like breakfast all day long.

 

[blackram]

Hey, I saw Loraine for the first time in a couple of months today. I was initially going to see her at ALO, but she said that she couldn't do BJ there (which I already knew about), so she said that she could see me at her own place after work. I offered her a ride home, and we were back at her normal place.

I did get to understand a bit more about how she was outed. It looks like she's still updating her blog (I don't normally view it, so I had originally thought that she had stopped blogging after leaving Vancouver), but it looks like she mentioned that she mentioned her building location inside her blog. She seems to think that her building manager got word of her blog and initiated action after reading that! So basically it was partially due to her own big mouth. :fool:

 

[blackram]

Some asshole on T-erb has discovered Loraine's blog, and is concerned by it, and has outed it. If Loraine was actually like her blog, I'd have long since stopped seeing her. I mean what's the point in outing the blog? If you don't get along with her, then you don't get along with her. :slap:

I have been to see her and had a pleasant enough time but got the feeling that something was not quite right. Couldn't exactly put my finger on it. I then found her blog https://lorainelaneyblog.tumblr.com/. It seemed to answer a lot of questions for me and raise a few new ones. I will let everyone else judge for themselves.

 

[blackram]

Oh, almost forgot to mention. When I met Veronica yesterday, she said Loraine just quit her job there, said she wanted to get cleaned up, get out of her addictions. I talked to Loraine today to confirm that, and she did confirm that. Said working at the spas were making her addiction problems worse. She says she's now semi-retired from the business, she won't go back to the spas again. Said she might do therapeutic-only massage occasionally, from her apartment. She also said she might consider doing outcalls with old customers from time to time too.

 

[paul mott]

If she really means it and follows through with it, then good for her as its ruining her life in many ways. If she starts doing incalls, regardless of what service she offers, then she may find herself being kicked out, as I think she got caught before, and that's why she started at the spas. Not sure how she intends to pay her rent, which I think is quite high. If she does outcalls I'd hope it was more than just massage, or she may find herself sitting at home a lot. If she'd do bbbj I'd consider her, as her rates are extremely low for outcall, I think $100 hr.

 

[blackram]

If she really means it and follows through with it, then good for her as its ruining her life in many ways. If she starts doing incalls, regardless of what service she offers, then she may find herself being kicked out, as I think she got caught before, and that's why she started at the spas. Not sure how she intends to pay her rent, which I think is quite high. If she does outcalls I'd hope it was more than just massage, or she may find herself sitting at home a lot. If she'd do bbbj I'd consider her, as her rates are extremely low for outcall, I think $100 hr.

She told me that she's told her building management of her plans to offer therapeutic massage. However, after all of this time, they still have not returned her door ringer number from downstairs. How she's going to get customers into her place without a door ringer is beyond me. She's too afraid to ask the management for her ringer back. I personally think telling them that she's going to do any kind of massage was a mistake, but she makes these mistakes all of the time.

She said she'll offer outcalls to long time customers, but she won't advertise, even on her own website. She's absolutely afraid of the new laws. I told her that the new laws actually make it okay for her to advertise her services as long as she does it herself. She didn't believe me. Oh, well.

Right now, her mother has given her some money to pay her rent. She's kicked out her boyfriend, Jim, once again. That's a good thing, he's an enabler. I told her that she should consider not living in downtown, it's not the only place to live. Other places might actually be more convenient to live, where you'll be near grocery stores, and malls, etc. She's already used to travelling by bus. Rents will be a lot better.

As for what she'll be offering in her outcalls? No idea, whatever she has evolved into being comfortable with by then. She was always CBJ in the past, but by the time I saw her most recently at ALO, she was offering a ball-licking service (BLS)! I couldn't imagine the old Loraine doing that, but there she was, doing it! She even said that she likes offering BLS, she's almost addicted to it. I even commented to her about it, I told her, "this would've been great if you offered this when you used to work out of your apartment, it would've been just perfect". Just barely on the cusp of going BBBJ. But of course, she wasn't offering it for the base $100 prices.

 

[paul mott]

I agree not to smart of her to be that honest with the people who run her building. I guess if she can't buzz anyone up, then she'll have to meet them downstairs and bring them up. Of course outcall eliminates that issue. If she does BLS, it's not a quantum leap to go to bbbj and it would attract more clients. I wish her the best, as no one asks or wants to be an addict of any kind...well a sex addict like we DOB's is okay, plus there's no cure or treatment for it, except to keep doing it!!

 

[Skinflute]

Happy to see Loraine has decided to get help with her addiction. It takes a lot courage to seek help and admit she has a problem. Leaving the Spa scene was also a step in the right direction. The tax free income she enjoys may be another addiction and I doubt she will go legit. I have never seen her and I wish I would have. I wish her all the best.

 

[blackram]

Happy to see Loraine has decided to get help with her addiction. It takes a lot courage to seek help and admit she has a problem. Leaving the Spa scene was also a step in the right direction.

Actually, she had admitted she had a problem many months ago, if not over a year ago, when she was still working from her home. She is actually not getting any help for the addiction, I asked her if she's going to rehab, and she said no, it's booked up. :unknw: So I don't know how much she's going to be able to break free from this on her own. I'm likely going to stop visiting her from now on. I've helped her out as much as I can, when I got her the job at ALO, but now she's even given that up. Right choice? Hard to say, she got income coming from it, but it also added to her addiction problems, directly and indirectly. Indirectly, just the fact that she got income from it, meant she was able to keep indulging her addictions. Directly, she mentioned that she used to drink and do drugs with some of the other girls at these places.

If she does BLS, it's not a quantum leap to go to bbbj and it would attract more clients. I wish her the best, as no one asks or wants to be an addict of any kind...well a sex addict like we DOB's is okay, plus there's no cure or treatment for it, except to keep doing it!!

Actually it is for her, she is (or at least used to be) a germophobe. Taking foreign micro-organisms unprotected into her mouth is a bridge crossing, rather than going around the corner.

As for sex addiction, I sometimes wish I were more like my wife: an asexual, with absolutely no interest in having sex. I would save a ton of money. :Thatwas-bad:

 

[paul mott]

Yes now I remember that she used to use rubber gloves for hj, which was very unusual. Given that, you're right she has come a long way in so far as service goes. I used to read her blogs, and they were truly heart breaking to read, and she was so open to express it. I guess it was a means of talking about it, as she likely couldn't with anyone in person to any degree. She's in a no win zone, if she doesn't work how can she pay her rent, and if she works then she gets tempted to drink and do drugs. Once girls get a taste of the money they can make, it's very hard for them to stay away any length of time.

 

[blackram]

Loraine isn't saying no to any more sex work, just a cutting back on it. She probably knows she can't completely get out of it. Very few girls in this industry don't have a drug-addiction problem: Luscious Lilly, Claire Heavens, I'm even hearing that Maya from Angels Touch is having a problem now, and she was one of the most well-grounded people I knew.

 

[paul mott]

Gee that's sad to hear about Maya, as like you say she was pretty grounded, although I can't say that from knowing her very well. I saw her a few times when she had Lamora's, but that was a long time ago. Being in an environment where drugs and alcohol is prevalent, at some point can break down, or lead one into the temptation to try it, and then it's over.

The fact that Lorraine is away from that temptation may help her, but addictions are unpredictable as to how they'll turn out, better, same, or worse. Her sad face alone is a reflection of the sadness and torment inside her. While she's not really my type, in a compassionate way I feel tempted to call her to come over, but of course no way of knowing if the money will be for the good of her paying her rent, or the ability to buy drugs.

 

[Skinflute]

blackram=

I asked her if she's going to rehab, and she said no, it's booked up.

What!!! I did a contract at the Correctional Facilities on Innes Rd. I was working at the clinic where inmates would see Doctors and receive Methadone treatment for their addiction.
Not knowing what steps she has taken, why can't she check herself in a hospital and get help.