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Blank_Dave

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While no exactly the place to be asking this, but given the different experiences of everyone here, especially Maurice and Dreamblade.... Now that my knee's healed up, and I have a few more weeks in a splint with my finger, (BTW, broke my finger at work) I'm looking to get back into training. The question is do I go back to something I was doing, or try something new?

BJJ
  • Just plain out, after a broken leg and a grade 3 tear of the acl, I'm done.

Aikido
  • A 'gentle' non-aggressive form, that sits well with my personality
  • Trained a couple of years in the Yoshinkai form while in university
  • A traditional system, with typical dojo etiquette

Muay Thai
  • Did this for a couple of years until I hurt my leg.
  • Fun, energetic, great masculine energy.
  • Nearest school is Peterborough, and they are a fun bunch, which have turned out both amateur and a couple of pro fighters.

Now the two I was also looking at...
Krav Maga
  • Supposed to be a relatively no nonsense defense system, developed by the Israeli Defense Force.
  • The nearest school is Oshawa, that I can find, and it is associated with Krav Maga Worldwide. The reason I bring this up is I've encountered piddling matches as to whether KMW teaches legitimate krav maga, or is just watered down BS.
  • Different organization, runs a school in Scarborough

Systema
  • A Russian fighting style supposedly trained by certain Russian Forces.
  • Some of the philosophy and techniques groove with my mind set, from what I've seen.
  • Some of the YouTube videos on it make it look really weird/bizarre
  • While researching it online, I found a great deal of hate towards it, and a lot of calling it watered down BS. (I can accept the watered down part, as it's being trained to civilians not soldiers) Also attacks on it as being nonfunctional, and even dangerous to the user.
  • The nearest schools are in Aurora and Thronhill IIRC.
  • The one head instructor isVladimir Vasiliev, who is supposed to be just unreal.
  • https://russianmartialart.com/

I'm just looking for some advice, suggestions or insight into the above, or maybe a suggestion at another accessible form.

I'm not really looking towards traditional MAs, with their katas, weapon forms and etiquette. Not that I'm disregarding them, or down playing them, it's just I'd prefer a "looser" learning environment. I'm looking for something that one can more jump into and start doing. (And I don't mean take one class then go out and win a bar brawl.) Something that will let me blow off some steam, work up a sweat and get my yayas out.
 
One of my good friend's wife is a Krav instructor. I've never studied it because as it approached mainstream popularity in the MMA world I was breaking down physically. From what I have seen though the Krav system doesn't take any prisoners and lends itself very well to legitimate real life confrontations.

If my body wasn't so beaten up I would probably do Krav and BJJ.

Personally I loved doing BJJ when I did do it. But being a bigger guy coming from a weight lifting background it was extremely difficult for me to learn how to relax and not tense up when rolling with an opponent. Also having a lot of muscle really tends to work against you. It takes a huge amount of oxygen to supply them and once you gas out that is all she wrote. I find it to be the most cerebral martial art and perhaps the most all around satisfying. Only thing is in a street fight with multiple opponents or vested onlookers the last place you want to be is on the ground.

I tried Muay Tai for a while as it was being taught downstairs at the Dojo I was at in Hamilton. Got my bell rung more than a few times,lol. Footwork and hand speed boys and girls, footwork and hand speed.
 
If you are expecting to see yourself in a close combat situation with one or more adversaries out in the open, I would suggest that Krav Maga, as taught by an accomplished and recognized authority, should offer all you need to establish necessary skills for both offensive and defensive maneuvers. Keep in mind that KM is not a physical training regimen. You need to be very fit BEFORE you start, or you'll likely sustain a significant injury in short order. You don't use it as a means to GET FIT.

Given the fact you now have a permanently fucked up knee (sorry), and guessing you're largely a non-confrontational type personality, I'd suggest you stay away from lower-body high-stress athletics like MMA, Judo, BJJ or MT, and maybe explore traditional boxing simply as a training regimen, strength enhancer, and a confidence builder.
 
I studied Tae Kwon Do for over 25 years and loved it. One of my buddies from university loved Aikido and is still at it. A work colleague has been at Krav Maga for 30+ years. I think as long as you work at one, you'll find your happiness in many ways.
 
oldguyzer said:
I studied Tae Kwon Do for over 25 years and loved it. One of my buddies from university loved Aikido and is still at it. A work colleague has been at Krav Maga for 30+ years. I think as long as you work at one, you'll find your happiness in many ways.

Remind me not to mess with you.
 
Blank_Dave said:
While no exactly the place to be asking this, but given the different experiences of everyone here, especially Maurice and Dreamblade.... Now that my knee's healed up, and I have a few more weeks in a splint with my finger, (BTW, broke my finger at work) I'm looking to get back into training. The question is do I go back to something I was doing, or try something new?

BJJ
  • Just plain out, after a broken leg and a grade 3 tear of the acl, I'm done.

Aikido
  • A 'gentle' non-aggressive form, that sits well with my personality
  • Trained a couple of years in the Yoshinkai form while in university
  • A traditional system, with typical dojo etiquette

Muay Thai
  • Did this for a couple of years until I hurt my leg.
  • Fun, energetic, great masculine energy.
  • Nearest school is Peterborough, and they are a fun bunch, which have turned out both amateur and a couple of pro fighters.

Now the two I was also looking at...
Krav Maga
  • Supposed to be a relatively no nonsense defense system, developed by the Israeli Defense Force.
  • The nearest school is Oshawa, that I can find, and it is associated with Krav Maga Worldwide. The reason I bring this up is I've encountered piddling matches as to whether KMW teaches legitimate krav maga, or is just watered down BS.
  • Different organization, runs a school in Scarborough

Systema
  • A Russian fighting style supposedly trained by certain Russian Forces.
  • Some of the philosophy and techniques groove with my mind set, from what I've seen.
  • Some of the YouTube videos on it make it look really weird/bizarre
  • While researching it online, I found a great deal of hate towards it, and a lot of calling it watered down BS. (I can accept the watered down part, as it's being trained to civilians not soldiers) Also attacks on it as being nonfunctional, and even dangerous to the user.
  • The nearest schools are in Aurora and Thronhill IIRC.
  • The one head instructor isVladimir Vasiliev, who is supposed to be just unreal.
  • https://russianmartialart.com/

I'm just looking for some advice, suggestions or insight into the above, or maybe a suggestion at another accessible form.

I'm not really looking towards traditional MAs, with their katas, weapon forms and etiquette. Not that I'm disregarding them, or down playing them, it's just I'd prefer a "looser" learning environment. I'm looking for something that one can more jump into and start doing. (And I don't mean take one class then go out and win a bar brawl.) Something that will let me blow off some steam, work up a sweat and get my yayas out.

Hello

Systema is great but its a very different from other styles as you mentioned and quite complex . Basically its not traditional and if you have experience for example in Boxing it would be harder to for you to learn a completely different way of striking and moving your body.
 
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