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This is a great idea. If it goes through I would propose all of North America to act as such.



(CBS News) New York state lawmakers have proposed a ban on anonymous online comments.Called the Internet Protection Act (A.8688/S.6779), the legislation would require a web site administrator to pull down anonymous comments from sites, including "social networks, blogs forums, message boards or any other discussion site where people can hold conversations in the form of posted messages."

The bill states:
A web site administrator upon request shall remove any comments posted on his or her web site by an anonymous poster unless such anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name, and home address are accurate. All web site administrators shall have a contact number or e-mail address posted for such removal requests, clearly visible in any sections where comments are posted.

Among the bills' sponsors are New York Assemblyman Dean Murray and Sen. Thomas O'Mara, who say the proposed law is to fight cyberbullying.

"Cyberbullying has become one of the great tragedies of the Internet age,"at a press conference. "Numerous national studies tell us that upwards of 40 percent of students have experienced some form of cyberbullying at least once, and they feel helpless in the face of it.

Victims of anonymous cyberbullies need protection. We're hopeful that this legislation can be helpful to the overall effort to deter and prevent anonymous criminals from hiding behind modern technology and using the Internet to bully, defame and harass their victims."

Critics of the bills claim the law will infringe upon free speech.

"This statute would essentially destroy the ability to speak anonymously online on sites in New York," said Kevin Bankston, a staff attorney with the Center for Democracy and Technology toldWired, adding that anyone who disagrees with a heckler could have the comment taken down.

The proposed law raises questions over privacy and security, as well. The bill would allow website owners access to private information, like a user's home, e-mail and IP address.

A basic website can be operated by as little as one person. The bill would give that website administrator full access to private information, with no additional security provisions for users who would have to hand over their personal information.

Additionally, website administrators currently don't have to disclose their identity to users and can pay to protect their personal information from the WHOIS registry. If the legislation is enacted, the personal information exchange would be a one-way street.

Currently, no votes have been taken on the legislation.
 
That will stop the bullying. I can't see anyone voting against it.
 
I believe it would also stop us from having any conversation here.

Cyberbullying is a problem. Asshole keyboard warriors posting anonymously on the internet are also a big problem.

But eliminating freedom of speech is a HUGE problem.

Welcome to the Gulag.
 
it would also mean they can have complaints about the government removed

that I figure is the true reason behind the law
 
Art Mann said:
I believe it would also stop us from having any conversation here.

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How so?.

If we all have legit IP addresses we can continue to converse here.
 
TINY said:
A web site administrator upon request shall remove any comments posted on his or her web site by an anonymous poster unless such anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name, and home address are accurate. All web site administrators shall have a contact number or e-mail address posted for such removal requests, clearly visible in any sections where comments are posted

I don't see that being a problem for our industry.
 
BEER said:
How so?.

If we all have legit IP addresses we can continue to converse here.

And this being a Canadian website, NY state law won't apply. So we can continue to converse here.

But we are all anonymous posters.

TINY said:
. . . The bill states:
A web site administrator upon request shall remove any comments posted on his or her web site by an anonymous poster unless such anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name, and home address are accurate. . . .​

Tiny. Danny DeVito. Art Mann. Papasmerf. Peace. Beer. Admiral. Even you, dear Ms Sarah.

Somehow I doubt these are our legal names. I certainly know mine isn't.

And I'm certainly not about to attach my "accurate" legal name, home address and IP address to each comment I post here, either as part of my signature line or under my avatar. According to the exerpt above, if we were governed by that proposed legislation any post here would have to be deleted if it doesn't include that personal info.

The good news is the proposed legislation is doomed to fail because it's totally unenforcable, apart from being so blatantly restrictive of freedom of speech.

The bad news is cyberbullying is indeed a problem . . . and the easy anonymity of the internet turns far too many people into abusive assholes.
 
Art Mann said:
And I'm certainly not about to attach my "accurate" legal name, home address and IP address to each comment I post here, either as part of my signature line or under my avatar. According to the exerpt above, if we were governed by that proposed legislation any post here would have to be deleted if it doesn't include that personal info.

and that in and of itself is designed to dissuade people from voicing their opinions.
It is a strong arm tactic or BULLYING and that is the problem it claims to address.
 
papasmerf said:
and that in and of itself is designed to dissuade people from voicing their opinions.
It is a strong arm tactic or BULLYING and that is the problem it claims to address.

I agree but don't get use to it, I vehemently will find an excuse to disagree with you on other topics!
 
papasmerf said:
and that in and of itself is designed to dissuade people from voicing their opinions.
It is a strong arm tactic or BULLYING and that is the problem it claims to address.


Actually, for me, the issue of attaching personal information is only a concern on these adult forums, because of the stigma still attached to the sex industry. Wish it weren't the case, but I think it wiser not to out myself.

On other forums related to my craft, my profession, or my interest in current news affairs, I freely provide my contact info and even use my own mug shot as avatar. But so do many other people. Discussions there all tend to be very civilized and focused on the issues.

And those forums seem to lack trolls and anonymous assholes.

Here we rely on mods to get rid of those problems.

We don't need legislation.
 
peace said:
The proposal smells censorship. Would you agree thesun? lol
Yes I do but I'm not sure if the purple person does. No hidden agenda here.
 
Prim0 said:
What can a cyberbully really do to you? What ever happened to teaching kids/adults that "sticks and stones..." I could care less if someone said terrible things about me on the net. I wouldn't give them the satisfaction of getting to me. It's like so many other government solutions (which all seem to suck and fail miserably).

Some people use guns to do bad things...ban all the guns.
Some people in the sex industry don't want to be there...ban the entire industry.
Some people can't control their eating habits...ban the big sodas.
Some people can't act civilly to a police officer...ban annoying cops.
Some people can't control their recreational drug use...ban all the drugs (unless they bring in big $$$ for the government)

It goes on and on...

problem is most cyber bullies like Andrew the king of NY, are people who interact with others who can make your life a living hell.

In Andy's case he has the NY State Police and the State's District Attorneys.

The ones from school has the student body.
 
New York both city and state are really losing it.

When 2 litre cups of Coke are outlawed only the criminals will have the 2 litre cups.
 
Silvio Burlusconi said:
New York both city and state are really losing it.

When 2 litre cups of Coke are outlawed only the criminals will have the 2 litre cups.

that is bloomingfoolburg in NYfuck the state City
 
Art Mann said:
Actually, for me, the issue of attaching personal information is only a concern on these adult forums, because of the stigma still attached to the sex industry. Wish it weren't the case, but I think it wiser not to out myself.

On other forums related to my craft, my profession, or my interest in current news affairs, I freely provide my contact info and even use my own mug shot as avatar. But so do many other people. Discussions there all tend to be very civilized and focused on the issues.

And those forums seem to lack trolls and anonymous assholes.

Here we rely on mods to get rid of those problems.

We don't need legislation.


I agree, and I also freely disclose my identity and contact information on other forums.

Having said that, being anonymous is liberating. I feel much freer to voice my ideas. This is especially true in professional forums (e.g., discussion groups on LinkedIn), because I know that my comments are being monitored.
 
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