Ohio Judge Strips Custody From Parents For Not Letting Daughter Taking Trans Hormones

[Furrly]

Your thoughts?.

Judge Strips Custody From Parents For Not Approving Trans Hormones

 

[JJ Mitchell]

Jesus!

 

[Canada-Man]

minors cannot vote, drive vehicles, sign contracts, cannot consent to sex but they can take hormones and surgically alter their bodies if they claim transgender?

 

[blackram]

At some point the parents are actually harming the child for not letting them go through with the reassignment therapy. I would say the same for Jehovah's Witness parents who refuse to let their kids get blood transfusions for medical procedures.

 

[BlueBalls]

minors cannot vote, drive vehicles, sign contracts, cannot consent to sex but they can take hormones and surgically alter their bodies if they claim transgender?

Great points.

 

[Prick]

Aren't you guys tired of hearing about the trans shit?. Just make it a damn LAW OR LEAVE IT ALONE.

 

[Madman]

At some point the parents are actually harming the child for not letting them go through with the reassignment therapy. I would say the same for Jehovah's Witness parents who refuse to let their kids get blood transfusions for medical procedures.

At what age does one decide if it's just an impressionable child or one that really requires the therapy. I admit I would have been devastated if a child of mine at a very young age decided they wanted this form of therapy.

 

[papasmerf]

At what age does one decide if it's just an impressionable child or one that really requires the therapy. I admit I would have been devastated if a child of mine at a very young age decided they wanted this form of therapy.

I would say: "Let's talk about it when you turn 18. That is just 2 years away. If you still want to do this. I am 100% behind you."

That way the decision is not rushed and we have time for an open dialogue.......

 

[blackram]

At what age does one decide if it's just an impressionable child or one that really requires the therapy. I admit I would have been devastated if a child of mine at a very young age decided they wanted this form of therapy.

Everybody matures at a different rate. Some people are sure that they aren't what they should be, very early on, even before they turn 18. Others decide to pull the trigger by the time they reach 60 (e.g. Catelyn Jenner). There's nothing magical about the number 18 that makes you more mature than you were the day before when you were 17 years and 364 days old.

But some parents, you'll probably recognize these qualities in your own parents, or yourselves, will never change their minds, it doesn't matter if their kids turn 18 or not, the answer is always going to be no. So the judge in this case probably recognized this trait in these parents (they must've been called to testify before the judge), and decided it's better to remove them from the picture, rather than waiting for the arbitrary number of 18 years to do it. There's no point in waiting, it's just going to make life more difficult for the individual involved having to deal with these people who will never support them no matter what.

Also it's likely that this isn't even a full surgery yet, they are just undergoing hormone therapy right now, which makes the parents' objections even more petty.

 

[blackram]

I'm not too sure that a judge should have more say over a child than any parent. That judge doesn't have to live with the repercussions of the decision beyond the day he/she strikes the gavel. The judge doesn't have to pay for anything related to this (Insurance if it covers this, co pays, medicines, counselling, etc.) The judge doesn't have to feel the pain the parents will go through watching their child struggle with the results of the choice. And if the kid becomes a statistic of suicide, a botched procedure, complications, etc, where will the judge be?

Well, sure they are, we let judges override a parent's say when it comes to child abuse. Abuse isn't just physical, but also mental pain.

As for the number 18......would you apply that thinking the same way to a 40 year old man who's impregnated a 16 year old girl? Hell, maybe she's more mature than other 16 year old girls. There's nothing magical about the number 18, right? I think we have to draw the line somewhere. We can argue about where that age line is, but 18 is generally accepted.

This is the exact opposite of that. This judge is taking away a minor from an abusive situation.

Furthermore, there is a great deal of information out there that shows that many people who've gone through gender reassignment regret their decision. The suicide rate for them is much higher than normal. I can sympathize with someone who genuinely feels like they are in the wrong body/gender. It must be a living hell. But I think that waiting the 2 years until you are an adult is fair. I think you could use that time to prepare yourself and seek out all the information available before you make that final choice. If at 18 you still feel the same, then think of it as a rebirth or the beginning of a second life. You'll be an adult, the adult that you want to be and can begin your life with or without your family the way you want it.

That's her decision to make. As it is, I don't think she's going through the surgery at this point, nor would she be allowed to take that decision yet, just through the hormone treatments, which are reversible. And it's not as if she's completely on her own, she'll be staying with her grandparents still. Grandparents might have a better attitude than the parents, they may still share the same concerns as the parents, but they may be slightly removed enough to not be judgemental like the parents can become. Sometimes a slightly more understanding parental figure might make them make a better decision, instead of staying in a situation where the two sides are at an impasse.

What may seem petty to you, is that couple's child and its well being. They know the kid. They love the kid and it will be their hearts that break if any of this goes wrong. You may not like their reasoning, but this is their life and their child. I don't think anyone else has more at stake in the situation than they do and everyone else should only offer support, not commands.

Never said anything is petty, far from it. But parents often consider their kids their properties too.

 

[Canada-Man]

John Money and others who started the transgender movement are paedophiles

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