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Ontario to ban smoking on restaurant patios, sports fields

Prim0 said:
And while we're stopping people from doing bad things to themselves and others...you know, for their own good...let's just go ahead and support the ban on prostitution too. The same arguments are used to support both bans, so how can you stand for one and not the other???????

Well for starters I can't think of one positive thing to say about using your body as a filter for cigarette smoke.

As for the other well the list would be substantial.
 
Maurice Boscorelli said:
Well for starters I can't think of one positive thing to say about using your body as a filter for cigarette smoke.

Speaking as a former smoker I think stopping people from smoking on an outside patios is going a tad too far. I am all for it inside but an outside ban is overkill in my opinion.
 
Madman said:
Speaking as a former smoker I think stopping people from smoking on an outside patios is going a tad too far. I am all for it inside but an outside ban is overkill in my opinion.

As a smoker I do not mind the bans where food is served.

However in some communities it is banned damned near everywhere but your car.
 
Madman said:
Speaking as a former smoker I think stopping people from smoking on an outside patios is going a tad too far. I am all for it inside but an outside ban is overkill in my opinion.

I agree in principle MM but the long game here is eliminating tobacco sales period and they are moving in this direction.
 
Smoking kills.







There, I've said it. Now don't shoot the passenger.
 
papasmerf said:
As a smoker I do not mind the bans where food is served.

However in some communities it is banned damned near everywhere but your car.

But it is banned in your car, in many places, if there are kids in the car, even if the windows are open.

This is one of those new laws to allow cops to do field searches of individuals who have thus far managed to have an empty dossier. They just want to know what the guy has in in pockets, to find out if there are grounds to find out if he has anything under his fingernails. They are hoping the guy will resist, so they can charge him with that, and let him plead out to a DNA sample, and then they can keep tabs on him forever, if need be.

It's also a cheap collar, and can lead to earlier promotion, if the approval guy at their barn only looks at stats, and takes everything his detectives say at face value.
 
bobistheowl said:
But it is banned in your car, in many places, if there are kids in the car, even if the windows are open.

This is one of those new laws to allow cops to do field searches of individuals who have thus far managed to have an empty dossier. They just want to know what the guy has in in pockets, to find out if there are grounds to find out if he has anything under his fingernails. They are hoping the guy will resist, so they can charge him with that, and let him plead out to a DNA sample, and then they can keep tabs on him forever, if need be.

It's also a cheap collar, and can lead to earlier promotion, if the approval guy at their barn only looks at stats, and takes everything his detectives say at face value.

You're full of shit, Bob.
 
Maurice Boscorelli said:
+1..........

I have had dealings with cops exactly like that; the barn somewhere near Keele and St Clair. Three of them, on the sunshine list, one of whom made plain clothes faster than most.
 
Prim0 said:
And while we're stopping people from doing bad things to themselves and others...you know, for their own good...let's just go ahead and support the ban on prostitution too. The same arguments are used to support both bans, so how can you stand for one and not the other???????

Interesting but I also believe the law helps me if YOU decide to smoke. Why should I have to inhale YOUR smoke if I want to enjoy myself outdoors in a public place? Does your right to smoke override my health concerns? If you want to smoke - by all means go ahead and do so. Just don't make the decision for me. A public place is open to all and the notion that smoke can be controlled where it goes is ludicrous. It is subject to the winds that blow and most of us know you can't control how winds behave. Unless you're Madman and then you seem to have deadly aim with "the wind."

In the absence of a brand new cigarette that has smoke trained to only hover around the smoker you should not be allowed to smoke anywhere near me if I don't want to inhale it.
 
There was actually a solution to this problem that was first displayed on Get Smart.

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That's the idea that I proposed instead of an office conference room in our office. Sadly, it was met with varying shades of ridicule.
 
Cardinal Fang said:
That's the idea that I proposed instead of an office conference room in our office. Sadly, it was met with varying shades of ridicule.

Can't imagine why.... :biggrin2:
 
They should allow Smoking Only restaurants, with a special additional tax on the cost of everything, to obtain municipal government approval. No kids allowed, no non smoking section, the floor is the ashtray, like Taverns in Quebec used to be. Some guys who don't usually smoke would go there to avoid having to eat with someone else' loud kids disturbing their meal.

The waitresses would flock to work there, because smokers always leave the biggest tips, usually 15% or more of the post tax total. They could sell the hottest suicide wings, and guys there would still put hot sauce on top, to be able to taste them.
 
bobistheowl said:
They should allow Smoking Only restaurants, with a special additional tax on the cost of everything, to obtain municipal government approval. No kids allowed, no non smoking section, the floor is the ashtray, like Taverns in Quebec used to be. Some guys who don't usually smoke would go there to avoid having to eat with someone else' loud kids disturbing their meal.

The waitresses would flock to work there, because smokers always leave the biggest tips, usually 15% or more of the post tax total. They could sell the hottest suicide wings, and guys there would still put hot sauce on top, to be able to taste them.

It'd be interesting to see how many waiters/waitresses would agree to work there - unless they were smokers themselves. But I agree - it's a great idea. Smokers are so happy when they can eat, drink and socialize while chain smoking.
 
Cardinal Fang said:
Interesting but I also believe the law helps me if YOU decide to smoke. Why should I have to inhale YOUR smoke if I want to enjoy myself outdoors in a public place? Does your right to smoke override my health concerns? If you want to smoke - by all means go ahead and do so. Just don't make the decision for me. A public place is open to all and the notion that smoke can be controlled where it goes is ludicrous. It is subject to the winds that blow and most of us know you can't control how winds behave. Unless you're Madman and then you seem to have deadly aim with "the wind."

In the absence of a brand new cigarette that has smoke trained to only hover around the smoker you should not be allowed to smoke anywhere near me if I don't want to inhale it.

I would add to that Cardinal that a smoker should also cover their own health costs. And I'm not talking about the premiums but the whole enchilada so to speak. So If a smoker was to develop emphysema they would have to cover the full cost for their treatment.
 
bobistheowl said:
They should allow Smoking Only restaurants, with a special additional tax on the cost of everything, to obtain municipal government approval. No kids allowed, no non smoking section, the floor is the ashtray, like Taverns in Quebec used to be. Some guys who don't usually smoke would go there to avoid having to eat with someone else' loud kids disturbing their meal.

The waitresses would flock to work there, because smokers always leave the biggest tips, usually 15% or more of the post tax total. They could sell the hottest suicide wings, and guys there would still put hot sauce on top, to be able to taste them.

I'd suppose you would like to bring back the opium houses too while you are at it.
 
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