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Policy Question for Ladies and Gents Alike

Sophia Sinclair

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When I started on the boards I used to thank members who reviewed me or honourably mentioned me in a thread via PM. Swede pointed out to me that gents like to see a show of appreciation and that I should publicly thank members, so I began doing just that.

A few years back the red board changed the rules of engagement rather suddenly, asking that ladies not thank everyone in a review or what I term a recommendation thread (e.g. who's good at x, y or z), only once or twice. I've always been of a mind that I should thank everyone who praises me and therefore supports me and my services. Unaware of the new rule (I know ignorance of the law does not exonerate you) and feeling that it's bad form to thank some and not others I continued to do what I had always done without issue and was banned from the former "incall' section for 2.5 years. I feel this was harsh, especially given the insults some ladies sling towards members on there who get banned for their arguments but then reinstated rather quickly. Mind you, they are supporting (blue) members.

When the new 'indy' section was revealed I was mysteriously restored to full rights. I endeavored not to make the same mistake again so I went on a review once, thanking those who had mentioned me thus far. I either misunderstood the "ladies/advertisers" part or they have arbitrarily changed the rules again. According to mgmt no less than 5 advertising ladies have flagged my post. I apologized for my apparent lack of comprehension and never responded to the review again. However, I received further communication from admin that my posts continue to get flagged. This means that my lounge contributions are being perceived as 'phantom advertising'. I've been recently posting in the lounge quite liberally, as I have here in the lobby, when I feel I have something to lend to the topic on hand. I can assure everyone that I don't post for the sake of posting, trying to get my name, etc. out there every chance I can. In fact, ladies and members alike have stated that my posts can be quite good and benefit the community.

I realize that this is a slow time of year, but given that I always try to support my fellow providers, backing them up post wise or respectfully disagreeing with them online and giving truthful references in a timely manner, which cannot be said for some advertisers there, I'm quite hurt to discover that many have complained behind my back, without knowing me or my intention(s). I will continue to aid others regardless as that's a reflection on who I am, not their treatment of me.

Do members and other ladies feel that it's inappropriate for a non advertising provider to post in either section? I for one worry about myself and don't usually concern myself with what others are doing, unless it directly affects me. I'm sorry if these ladies feel I'm somehow taking food from their table by posting on the boards, but I can honestly say that I get little to no business from them, especially as I've been around as long as I have and given most members proclivity towards variety, my screening practices, age limit and non central location. I rely on my regulars, not new clients to keep me afloat. I've already ran this by a lady whose opinion I value and gotten her take on the matter, which is pretty much in line with mine. Now I'm curious what the general population thinks. Personally I don't believe anyone should have to pay to post a thoughtful opinion in the lounge, thank a member or gain access to the section whereby we warn other providers of bad dates.

Your candor is appreciated and I thank you for taking the time to address my concern(s) in advance!
 
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Etiquette and courtesy is a lost art and I think it's lovely you continue to recognize it makes the world a better place. If you are a current member then you can post anywhere except the reco threads. The reason the rule was put in place was because a long time ago, reco threads were becoming discussion threads and it was a little chaotic for people to find actual recommendations. The fact your GD posts are being flagged is ridiculous. I'm unsure as to whether the new ownership has taken over but the old Mod would watch who was doing the flagging and if it was inappropriate, they would get smacked.

I appreciate your input over there and while it seems to be having technical difficulties atm, I hope to see you there when it's back up.

smiles, cat
 
Posting and participation by the ladies has never been frowned upon here at HUBGFE. Everyone is welcome and unless things devolve to personal attacks mods/admins are fine with things running their course.

I've found the environment here much more accepting and friendly and don't post elsewhere.
 
I get that, which is why I posed the question here, not there as it would most likely be met with derision by the majority on that board.

Interestingly, many of the members here are also members there, with the same or differing handle(s), but choose to post here and mostly lurk there due to the reason you state, a better atmosphere here.

I know one member who stopped posting here because he felt it was the nicey board. It would seem that many thrive on controversy, rather than collaboration.
 
Etiquette and courtesy is a lost art and I think it's lovely you continue to recognize it makes the world a better place. If you are a current member then you can post anywhere except the reco threads. The reason the rule was put in place was because a long time ago, reco threads were becoming discussion threads and it was a little chaotic for people to find actual recommendations. The fact your GD posts are being flagged is ridiculous. I'm unsure as to whether the new ownership has taken over but the old Mod would watch who was doing the flagging and if it was inappropriate, they would get smacked.

I appreciate your input over there and while it seems to be having technical difficulties atm, I hope to see you there when it's back up.

smiles, cat


I agree and thank you for your support!

Back on Sunday, October 11, 2015 @ 10:25 PM I received this Notification Form from my old site:

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Why?

Because I posted in a thread in the lounge for the first time in ages, whilst being banned from the incall section. When I obtained the IP address and ran it by Fred he said it didn't match any in their records and blamed it on Batman57 or Chase. Why would Chase care what I post on the red board if it doesn't pertain to his board and it's not Batman's usual MO. He anonymously texts or posts bizarre things online, either in his blog or on boards under assumed handles, which quickly get deleted. I'm only providing this as proof that posting in the lounge is viewed by some over there as tacit advertising.

The thread was about non properly supplied/clean incalls. One could take my contribution as covert advertising, but really I was lending my expertise to the conversation. Other providers could take what I stated and apply it to their own businesses, learning from me. Instead, some chose to perceive it in a negative, threatening way and tried to use it against me.

I'll take yours and the other lady's PMd and emailed advice to heart and continue to post in the lounge. I'm really tired of the haters out there!
 
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Imho, it’s not fair to the paying advertisers for you to post without being a paying advertiser. I can see why the other lady’s would flag you posts.
 
Imho, it’s not fair to the paying advertisers for you to post without being a paying advertiser. I can see why the other lady’s would flag you posts.

Are you talking about the review section, lounge or both?

I can agree to some extent with the review section, even though when I was a paid advertiser there I could care less if non advertisers thanked members because my focus was on my own business and improving it, not what others may or may not be doing with theirs.

Valeria Beleza, a true sweetheart and paid advertiser at that time, once stuck up for me in a lounge thread where a member was attacking me for my posited theory regarding a swallow vs non swallow thread. She pointed out that some members post with intent, meaning me, while others post for attention, meaning his favourite back then, who by the way didn't SW at that point in time, but now does. Another member in a PM described his behaviour towards me that day as not only out of line, but bordering on hostile. I checked the rules and guidelines and he was blatantly in violation of them, given the language he'd used, but I chose to agree to disagree with him and move on, rather than reporting his offensive behaviour. I 100% disagree that the lounge should be off limits to non 'supporting' ladies. I've seen other non blue ladies post in the review section and lounge without being harassed as far as I know. Methinks McGuinty may be correct in that some jealous person or persons are targeting me.
 
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While I’ve never been directly informed I’m over-posting or rubbing people the wrong way, I’ve definitely gotten the impression over the years that some might not appreciate my contributions. I’ve started utilizing the “Thanks” feature on here and sending a thank you via PMs or leaving a Visitor Message instead of always publicly posting my gratitude. Reduces the potential for drama.
I’ve always enjoyed reading your viewpoints, Sophia, and I hope you never stop sharing!
 
For the record, I don't know if that form you got was from Fred or someone faking.

I can't see Fred, the real one, making a mistake on the spelling of TERB. So clearly it was some lady who was pissed off.

Still uncalled for.

And don't worry sweetie, people pray all the time that I will stop posting, but I say Meh.... Fuck 'em.
 
The same to you AMY!

You, like Valeria, are very sweet. For the above and slightly less recently aforementioned reasons both here and there, I started placing people at arms length a while back. Now I'm speaking out about it because I'm fed up with the mild form of cyber bullying going on!
 
JR, you're like the Dr. Phil (female version) of the boards. You just tell it like it is. Many people don't want to hear the truth so I can see why they may take issue with you. Personally I trust people like you who don't embellish.
 
Sophia Sinclair;893687[COLOR=#800000 said:
Interestingly, many of the members here are also members there, with the same or differing handle(s), but choose to post here and mostly lurk there due to the reason you state, a better atmosphere here.

I know one member who stopped posting here because he felt it was the nicey board. It would seem that many thrive on controversy, rather than collaboration.[/COLOR]

Guilty of posting here only. To the member that thinks this is a nicey board: Have you seen the trash section?.

I agree and thank you for your support!

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Duration
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DetailsBitch pay for term, stop posting for free...

Why?

Because I posted in a thread in the lounge for the first time in ages, whilst being banned from the incall section. When I obtained the IP address and ran it by Fred he said it didn't match any in their records and blamed it on Batman57 or Chase. Why would Chase care what I post on the red board if it doesn't pertain to his board and it's not Batman's usual MO. He anonymously texts or posts bizarre things online, either in his blog or on boards under assumed handles, which quickly get deleted. I'm only providing this as proof that posting in the lounge is viewed by some over there as tacit advertising.

The thread was about non properly supplied/clean incalls. One could take my contribution as covert advertising, but really I was lending my expertise to the conversation. Newer, less experienced providers could take what I stated and apply it to their own businesses, learning from me. Instead, some chose to perceive it in a negative, threatening way and tried to use it against me.

I'll take yours and the other lady's PMd/emailed advice to heart and continue to post in the lounge. I'm really tired of the haters out there!


I doubt the owners of the red board would come up with this. All I hear is good things about them.

While I’ve never been directly informed I’m over-posting or rubbing people the wrong way, I’ve definitely gotten the impression over the years that some might not appreciate my contributions. I’ve started utilizing the “Thanks” feature on here and sending a thank you via PMs or leaving a Visitor Message instead of always publicly posting my gratitude. Reduces the potential for drama.
I’ve always enjoyed reading your viewpoints, Sophia, and I hope you never stop sharing!

Amy, you can post whatever you want on any board. Your reputation for being a smart, caring SP is known all over the industry.
 
Rolex, that was a long time ago in a galaxy far away, before the toxic zone. I doubt it was Fred also, my point is that there are some toxic providers out there, creating problems for themselves and others wherever they go.
 
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Last time I spoke with him, which is a while ago, he'd slowed down his hobbying quite a bit. It's possible he's retired now but I can't say that with any certainty. I will say that back in the day he was very supportive of me and helpful!
 
If you don't have information to your website, social media, etc. in your signature or profile there shouldn't be any reason to prohibit posting, even if not a current advertiser.
 
Agree. I know of one non supporting provider that posts very rarely but when she does her work number is listed as her location, right under her handle. I've never seen her banned. Most likely it's because no one's caught it or if they have, complained about it.
 
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