How bad it's your problem. Can surgery not fix it?.
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How bad it's your problem. Can surgery not fix it?.
Faced with blindness, deaf twins choose euthanasia
Faced with blindness, deaf twins choose euthanasia
https://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news...h-blindness-deaf-twins-choose-euthanasia?lite
Faced with blindness, deaf twins choose euthanasia
https://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news...h-blindness-deaf-twins-choose-euthanasia?lite
oldguyzer said:
ok, we're missing an important factor here: they are twins and have that special bond that twins are supposed to share.
As for blind/alive etc, depands a lot on the person. I know I'm a very visual person, been that way all my life and if I was going blind, or blinded, that would be very very hard to take. I tell you, I'd give it a shot but I'd say right now, I would rather be dead than blind......blind AND deaf? for sure...I'd pull the plug.
oh yeah, one other thing to consider: unless you have amazing insurance, you won't/wouldn't be able to afford to hire someone to help. I know some people on permanant disability and they care barely survive on what they get from the government. I know one in particular has to rely on help from her parents otherwise she'd be living in a dump.......
tboy said:
True, very much depends on your financial abilities to support your handicap. As much as so many claim the government is all about hand outs, until one is in the situation they have no idea what people are actually given assistance wise.
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And closer to home
And closer to home
Did you know that Quebec tabled its controversial right-to-die legislation today in the National Assembly?
Quebec’s landmark bill would open the door to allowing terminally ill patients to have a doctor administer medication to cause death. If it passes, it would be the first legislation of its kind in Canada.
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And closer to home
Did you know that Quebec tabled its controversial right-to-die legislation today in the National Assembly?
Quebec’s landmark bill would open the door to allowing terminally ill patients to have a doctor administer medication to cause death. If it passes, it would be the first legislation of its kind in Canada.
READ MORE HERE:
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Should inmates fed up with prison be allowed the right to die?
Should inmates fed up with prison be allowed the right to die?
What if Canada had a right-to-die law and Justin Bourque, the guy who gunned down three Mounties in New Brunswick last year, wanted to make use of it, rather than spend at least the next 75 years in prison?
It's not as absurd a question as it sounds. Canadians are headed into a renewed discussion on the right to die as the Supreme Court this year prepares to rule on a couple of constitutional challenges to the law forbidding assisted suicide and Quebec implements its dying with dignity legislation.
What makes the discussion even more tangible is the debate going on in Europe after a rapist-murderer in Belgium who's spent 30 years behind bars successfully won court approval to die under the country's broad euthanasia law. Frank Van Den Bleeken, who was found not criminally responsible for his crimes, argued he could not psychologically deal with the prospect of ending his days in prison.
The Belgian government ultimately blocked the decision this week, but meanwhile more than a dozen other prison inmates reportedly have filed euthanasia applications. It's likely the discussion will continue.
European countries have abolished capital punishment but the those that have or are considering right-to-die legislation may now face the possibility of seeing it reintroduced by the back door, ironically at the behest of the criminals themselves.
Now we head into the realm of "what if." Euthanasia and assisted suicide remain illegal in Canada. The new Quebec law is bound to be tested. But let's assume Canada joins those European countries and some U.S. states and approves some form of assisted dying under strictly controlled circumstances.
“My general view is that rights that are generally available are available to people who are prisoners unless for some reason its expressly excluded by needing to serve time," says Catherine Latimer, executive director of the John Howard Society, a service organization that works with inmates and advocates for prison reform.
That theoretically would include the right to die, but a lot would depend on how the law is crafted, Latimer told Yahoo Canada News.
Belgium has one of the broadest euthanasia laws in Europe – last year extending it to children of any age – and encompasses untreatable mental illness as well as physical ailments. Van Den Bleeken argued failure of programs to deal with his sex drives and the prospect a lifetime in custody made living intolerable, a position the court accepted.
Eike-Henner Kluge, a University of Victoria philosopher and medical ethicist, has developed a proposal for amending Canada's Criminal Code to allow for euthanasia and assisted suicide.
A screening process would determine whether a person has the capacity to decide to end their lives if they are suffering from a "incurable and irremediable disease or medical condition."
In his model, an incurable psychiatric condition might conceivably qualify but the daunting prospect of a long stretch in prison would not be grounds to choose death. "In a medical context the test is not whether you don’t feel like it [spending life in prison] but whether it causes diagnosable, irremediable, incurable harm," Kluge said in an interview. "Therefore simply feeling 'I don’t like this' is certainly not going to be sufficient because what has to happen is that you would have to be medically or psychologically harmed by continuation and that is not the same as saying I’d die rather than spending 20 years.”
A Canadian law might look something like Quebec's Bill 51, which allows someone to request assisted dying only if they suffer from a serious incurable illness, their capabilities are in irreversible decline and are suffering unbearable physical or psychological pain as a result.
Even if the law were available for inmates (and presumably it will be in Quebec) it doesn't seem to leave much room for a Van Den Bleeken-style bid to end the torment of lifetime imprisonment, nor should it.
If a prisoner sees death as the only way out, there's something wrong with the system, said Latimer. "I would caution that placing some person in such dire circumstances such that they suffer a deterioration of mental health and think that their only answer is to kill themselves really raises some questions, I think, about the appropriate role of the the person who’s detaining them," she said.
The suicide rate in Canadian prisons is seven times higher than in the general population, averaging about 10 a year in federal penitentiaries, according a review of suicides by the Office of the Correctional Investigator published last September. "Suicide is the leading cause of un-natural death among federal inmates, accounting for about 20 per cent of all deaths in custody in any given year," the report says.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dai...on-be-allowed-the-right-to-die-211232124.html
Should inmates fed up with prison be allowed the right to die?
What if Canada had a right-to-die law and Justin Bourque, the guy who gunned down three Mounties in New Brunswick last year, wanted to make use of it, rather than spend at least the next 75 years in prison?
It's not as absurd a question as it sounds. Canadians are headed into a renewed discussion on the right to die as the Supreme Court this year prepares to rule on a couple of constitutional challenges to the law forbidding assisted suicide and Quebec implements its dying with dignity legislation.
What makes the discussion even more tangible is the debate going on in Europe after a rapist-murderer in Belgium who's spent 30 years behind bars successfully won court approval to die under the country's broad euthanasia law. Frank Van Den Bleeken, who was found not criminally responsible for his crimes, argued he could not psychologically deal with the prospect of ending his days in prison.
The Belgian government ultimately blocked the decision this week, but meanwhile more than a dozen other prison inmates reportedly have filed euthanasia applications. It's likely the discussion will continue.
European countries have abolished capital punishment but the those that have or are considering right-to-die legislation may now face the possibility of seeing it reintroduced by the back door, ironically at the behest of the criminals themselves.
Now we head into the realm of "what if." Euthanasia and assisted suicide remain illegal in Canada. The new Quebec law is bound to be tested. But let's assume Canada joins those European countries and some U.S. states and approves some form of assisted dying under strictly controlled circumstances.
“My general view is that rights that are generally available are available to people who are prisoners unless for some reason its expressly excluded by needing to serve time," says Catherine Latimer, executive director of the John Howard Society, a service organization that works with inmates and advocates for prison reform.
That theoretically would include the right to die, but a lot would depend on how the law is crafted, Latimer told Yahoo Canada News.
Belgium has one of the broadest euthanasia laws in Europe – last year extending it to children of any age – and encompasses untreatable mental illness as well as physical ailments. Van Den Bleeken argued failure of programs to deal with his sex drives and the prospect a lifetime in custody made living intolerable, a position the court accepted.
Eike-Henner Kluge, a University of Victoria philosopher and medical ethicist, has developed a proposal for amending Canada's Criminal Code to allow for euthanasia and assisted suicide.
A screening process would determine whether a person has the capacity to decide to end their lives if they are suffering from a "incurable and irremediable disease or medical condition."
In his model, an incurable psychiatric condition might conceivably qualify but the daunting prospect of a long stretch in prison would not be grounds to choose death. "In a medical context the test is not whether you don’t feel like it [spending life in prison] but whether it causes diagnosable, irremediable, incurable harm," Kluge said in an interview. "Therefore simply feeling 'I don’t like this' is certainly not going to be sufficient because what has to happen is that you would have to be medically or psychologically harmed by continuation and that is not the same as saying I’d die rather than spending 20 years.”
A Canadian law might look something like Quebec's Bill 51, which allows someone to request assisted dying only if they suffer from a serious incurable illness, their capabilities are in irreversible decline and are suffering unbearable physical or psychological pain as a result.
Even if the law were available for inmates (and presumably it will be in Quebec) it doesn't seem to leave much room for a Van Den Bleeken-style bid to end the torment of lifetime imprisonment, nor should it.
If a prisoner sees death as the only way out, there's something wrong with the system, said Latimer. "I would caution that placing some person in such dire circumstances such that they suffer a deterioration of mental health and think that their only answer is to kill themselves really raises some questions, I think, about the appropriate role of the the person who’s detaining them," she said.
The suicide rate in Canadian prisons is seven times higher than in the general population, averaging about 10 a year in federal penitentiaries, according a review of suicides by the Office of the Correctional Investigator published last September. "Suicide is the leading cause of un-natural death among federal inmates, accounting for about 20 per cent of all deaths in custody in any given year," the report says.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dai...on-be-allowed-the-right-to-die-211232124.html
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papasmerf said:
They put prisoners on suicide watch and take away anything that could be used to kill themselves, so I don't think they have the right to do it.
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A government like we have in power now would use something like this to exterminate people. I'm all for the right to die for terminally ill people but for prisoners it would be absurd however I do agree with Papa on this one. If there's a will there's a way, suicide in prison happens all the time.
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Agree 100%Leo said:
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Wanker said:
The problem is that it is at the tax payers expense.
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Leo said:
I'm inclined to agree the actor who once kicked Bar Refaeli out of the bed to fark her on the floor. They've made their bed and they have to serve their time. Their right to a quick way out of punishment should be denied.
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