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Right to Die, what is your take on it?.

As hard as it is to lose a loved one, watching them suffer in pain as their bodies degenerate towards an inevitable end is far worse.
I've lost several family members to cancer and the change over those last few weeks of life- I struggle to put it into words the amount of suffering I've seen in those whom I've lost; but its a combination of both intense physical pain and emotional turmoil that they are left to endure as they slowly reach their ends upon this earth, and I very sincerely feel that nobody should ever be forced to suffer that way against their will.



IMO when the end itself cannot be avoided, and ones quality of life is unable to be prolonged any further, the right to leave this world peacefully should be granted to anyone who is able to give fully informed, cognitive consent, or where it can be proven that their wishes have in fact been recorded (and witnessed) when they had been in that same frame of mind, prior to any incapacitation which might be present when their request is being considered/carried out.

Al Bumin said:
Vulnerable communities, such as the disabled and the developmentally challenged, may not be able to speak for themselves. Who will make those decisions for them?


Where the vulnerable communities (such as the disabled, the developmentally challenged, and those who may not be able to speak for themselves) are concerned, I'm not sure; but in order to ensure that all third party requests are made appropriately it almost seems logical that when/if a patient is incapacitated in some way, there is more than 1 person alone acting on their behalf. Perhaps a system could be set up where a compassionate appeal must be made by the patients power of attorney, requesting the right to a peaceful end, and that appeal could be overseen by to the human rights tribunal (or one which is specific to compassionate death alone) who would in turn render a decision (based on medical evidence) to ensure that these kinds of decisions are made soberly and with the best interest of the patient at heart.


Al Bumin said:
As well, physicians’ rights must be respected. No doctor should be forced to participate in an assisted suicide if it contravenes his or her moral, ethical or religious beliefs.




As for 'physicians rights'; many doctors refuse to prescribe the morning after pill, to participate in the medical aspects of gender reassignment, to be involved with abortions, etc... so any laws which are passed in support of compassionate euthanasia should of course include "the right to refuse"; with a subsection which states that when refusal has been given by one medical practitioner, a referral shall be immediately made to another practitioner who supports patients rights to a compassionate end.
I say immediately because time can be very important factor. I've seen some of the strongest, most wonderful men in the world become crippled by the effects of cancer in only a few short weeks, and sometimes a few weeks is literally all the time you have.
 
I have to agree in some instances a prolonged existence is merely avoiding the inevitable and only surviving to suffer. We at times treat animals better than we treat people and this is discouraging to say the least.
 
cristycurves said:
I believe in abortion and I believe we all should have the right to choose how we die. We certainly make that choice for other beings,and feel that is our right! why not ourselves. I'll never understand the mind set of those who think human life as being superior to all others, and being so, should be revered and "kept going" at all costs. We're all here for a specific reason, for a specific time. Perhaps instead of trying to find ways of prolonging life we should be learning how to live it better and to be more accepting towards death.

agreed
 
Quite simply nobody should have to endure the pain and suffering that comes with most terminal illnesses.

It's time that this topic was put to a national referendum and we the people can influence the final decision.

My guess is that with the overwhelming majority of citizens having been affected by a loved ones needless suffering at some point in their lives the final outcome would be rather decisive.

It will all come down to which politician or party has the fortitude to get the ball rolling so to speak. They will have to weigh possible career suicide against legal reform. Possibly someone who has been directly affected will have to begin the process.

And lets not forget about the religious fundamentalists who will fight this tooth and nail based upon the brainwashing they have subjected themselves too over their lifetimes.
 
Maurice Boscorelli said:
And lets not forget about the religious fundamentalists who will fight this tooth and nail based upon the brainwashing they have subjected themselves too over their lifetimes.

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The bill “is not an ordinary bill because it deals with life and death,” Brown wrote. “The crux of the matter is whether the state of California should continue to make it a crime for a dying person to end his life, no matter how great his pain or suffering.” Hmmmmmm
 
Gov. Brown signs controversial assisted-suicide bill
Caught between conflicting moral arguments, Gov. Jerry Brown, a former Jesuit seminary student, on Monday signed a measure allowing physicians to prescribe lethal doses of drugs to terminally ill patients who want to hasten their deaths.

Approving the bill, whose opponents included the Catholic Church, appeared to be a gut-wrenching decision for the 77-year-old governor, who as a young man studied to enter the priesthood.

“In the end, I was left to reflect on what I would want in the face of my own death,” Brown added. “I do not know what I would do if I were dying in prolonged and excruciating pain. I am certain, however, that it would be a comfort to be able to consider the options afforded by this bill. And I wouldn’t deny that right to others."

California becomes the fifth state to allow so-called assisted suicide, following Oregon, Washington, Montana and Vermont.

 
DO you really need someone to kill you....i mean...cant you do it yourself?
 
Prim0 said:
I have no problem with people choosing to end their lives....in fact, I encourage more people to do it.


I think it's the ultimate in personal freedom to choose to live or die. Who the hell else has the right to tell someone that they have to live through some terminal illness fraught with pain and no hope of improvement. And why do people want to prevent people this choice....religion. In the US, conservatives always reference religion and it drives me nuts. You don't need a religion to tell you what is right or wrong. Freedom is the ultimate right and the government's job is to ensure that each individual has it. Everything else is meddling.

I completely concur!:good:
 
Living in LA for any extended length of time has always been its own unique form of 'assisted suicide' anyway, so no diff really. Same goes for NYC.
 
Louis XIV said:
Living in LA for any extended length of time has always been its own unique form of 'assisted suicide' anyway, so no diff really. Same goes for NYC.

Big cities are like poison to my soul, whereas the wildnerness brings healing and health.
 
peace said:
DO you really need someone to kill you....i mean...cant you do it yourself?


It seems both more peaceful and practical for the terminally-ill person to use pills instead of other methods. And for that, you need a prescription. This legislation protects the physician who writes it.

I don't know if it would protect a family member who performed a mercy-killing.
 
Give it 10 more years and most North American cities will have the same law. It just makes logical sense.

Who wants to suffer their last few years knowing you will be dying any moment and living in pain every single day.
 
[h=1]Ottawa surprises top court judges by allowing assisted suicide to proceed in Quebec[/h][h=2]Feds are willing to allow it in Quebec which has “a comprehensive scheme” to address the issue, but the rest of the country needs more time to draft laws, a federal lawyer has told judges in the Supreme Court, which earlier struck down the criminal ban.[/h]
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...asking-for-more-time-on-assisted-suicide.html
 
Most ironic thing about Canadians and the 'right to die' debate or Euthanasia debate:

1) More and more Canadians are starting to believe that I should have the right to pay a doctor to end my life

2) But most of those same people dont believe I should have the right to pay a doctor to prolong my life (private healthcare).
 
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