Safety

[tboy]

Random thoughts:

I considered P411 for US travel but did not want to give out personal info. I understand that the server(s) is in Canada.

I honestly don't know why anyone would hobby south of the border. The costs are exponentially higher than here and with all the sting operations going on, you could end up in a whole heap of trouble. Especially if you have to travel for business down there and you get busted? Say goodbye to being able to go.....(and that could result in the end of your career).

One of the things a hobbyist has to be wary of: the blackmail issue. As Treefort says, you don't divulge too much but with all the famous people getting raked over the coals from escorts someone who has something to hide his activities from, has to be really careful.

I'm kind of lucky that way, while I won't go out and rent a billboard about my sexual proclivaties, I don't give a rat's ass who finds out that I play around. If they have issues with it, that's their problem, not mine. Over the years I found it funny just how many guys use the services of a pro. You kind of get a hint via conversations and then ask directly in private....then the stories begin lol.

As for the boards, if I'm meeting someone for the first time I simply say "I'm Tboy on the boards, if you want to know more about me, it's all there for anyone to see". Luckily (so far) no one's gone screaming from the room when I say that lol......

 

[treefort]

I honestly don't know why anyone would hobby south of the border. The costs are exponentially higher than here and with all the sting operations going on, you could end up in a whole heap of trouble. Especially if you have to travel for business down there and you get busted? Say goodbye to being able to go.....(and that could result in the end of your career).

One of the things a hobbyist has to be wary of: the blackmail issue. As Treefort says, you don't divulge too much but with all the famous people getting raked over the coals from escorts someone who has something to hide his activities from, has to be really careful.

I'm kind of lucky that way, while I won't go out and rent a billboard about my sexual proclivaties, I don't give a rat's ass who finds out that I play around. If they have issues with it, that's their problem, not mine. Over the years I found it funny just how many guys use the services of a pro. You kind of get a hint via conversations and then ask directly in private....then the stories begin lol.

As for the boards, if I'm meeting someone for the first time I simply say "I'm Tboy on the boards, if you want to know more about me, it's all there for anyone to see". Luckily (so far) no one's gone screaming from the room when I say that lol......

You're right about south of the boarder. It was moot for me as I didn't want to divulge any personal info. But reading similar US-based message boards, it can be quite dangerous not only from an LE perspective, but from the sp as well. The closest I got was going to a strip bar in Las Vegas and having some interesting conversations with casino hookers late night/early morning.

As far as blackmail goes, I'm not too concerned with the ladies I've seen but I guess you never know. I do carry some ID with me and sometimes they would have the opportunity to check it but I don't think that's happened. I always carry ample cash and never had any missing that I could tell. The only ID that I'm anal on always having with me at all times is my health card just in case. But I could carry a blank card with only "My OHIP # is 1234567890" written on it. Back to blackmail, they might actually be doing me a favour :happy:.

 

[tboy]

ah vegas.....I used to travel for business and hung out at deja vu quite often....there was a hottie there who I had my eye on for takeout.....long story short....never happened lol....

 

[treefort]

ah vegas.....I used to travel for business and hung out at deja vu quite often....there was a hottie there who I had my eye on for takeout.....long story short....never happened lol....

I went to Deja Vu's sister club (I believe) Little Darlings. I dropped a few takeout hints on one dancer but I guess she didn't do that (or not with the likes of me anyways). However she must have told someone about my overtures as the next dancer started dropping all kinds of hints in the VIP that she was available. She was nice but it was the other dancer that I really wanted so I just played dumb.

 

[Butch]

How about the opposite. Has anyone here ever got mugged by a SP's pimp?.

 

[Oakley]

I am a new guy here, but I always thought there was always a person protecting the working girl in case there was any trouble. Is that just in the movies?.

 

[George Costanza]

I am a new guy here, but I always thought there was always a person protecting the working girl in case there was any trouble. Is that just in the movies?.

Pimps are still here. They now call themselves businessmen.

 

[treefort]

Pimps are still here. They now call themselves businessmen.

Wouldn't that be in a "dutlist/craigslist" type of situation if you mean somebody hiding in the closet type of thing.

 

[Auggie]

Kyra, those shoes look awesome but the pointy heels could be deadly when you're thrashing about in the throes of ecstasy.
:he:

 

[j]

Kyra, those shoes look awesome but the pointy heels could be deadly when you're thrashing about in the throes of ecstasy.:he:

Those would be her second line of defense. (I actually recommended that to someone who once asked would it be a good idea to have, and inform a client about, security in the next room (answer, no to both). Among other things (like making a rather obvious safety call), was to keep the heels on thru out. No accompany shower, no removing the stilettos. You could poke someone's eye out with one of those heels. (if necessary). lol

 

[j]

Wouldn't that be in a "dutlist/craigslist" type of situation if you mean somebody hiding in the closet type of thing.

I think you are fooling yourself if you try to make assumptions about the location of an ad. Good/great sps advertiser everywhere, but so do scammy ones. I've known of a few cases where scammers pay for ads, create websites, seem to have pro pics, unlike the stereotypical "CL/DL" presumption.

For the OP, one thing I just don't do outcalls. For many reasons, for the feeling of personal safety, mine is much higher with incall at my place. From the client perspective, they aren't revealing their address, their full name, nor their car make/model/license #. Its the kind of level (mid-range, shorter appts) that work for both sides. They do have to speak to me, tho, no email, no text, nothing but a phone call. Some don't want to do that == so we don't meet. I don't need references, but then I am not committing a lot of time, nor am I out of pocket, for no shows. If they don't show, no worries, I haven't gone to an outcall, spent time and $ getting there, or spent $ on a hotel room to provide for an appt that doesn't show up.

I also fully support the sps who want things like references, contact forms filled in, even a first name if asked, a phone #, a description, a work #, or whatever else is on her personal list. We do have to remember these things are only required for first visits. And they are rarely if ever required by someone who has no experience, no history, no reputation, no credibility and nothing to lose if they violate their client's privacy.

What I usually object to are all the crying and objections when an sp asks for such things. If you don't like it, you don't get to see her, its no loss to her, cuz she isn't planning to change her policies lol. Again, it is requested by reputable sps, who are not going to screw it up. If a potential client can't trust his own instinct to contact such an sp in the first place, then it serves him right for refusing to comply with her requirements. The result is she has free time to see someone else, and he is out of luck lol.

 

[Wise Guy]

If a potential client can't trust his own instinct to contact such an sp in the first place, then it serves him right for refusing to comply with her requirements. The result is she has free time to see someone else, and he is out of luck lol.

I've been out of luck a few times.

 

[Auggie]

Those would be her second line of defense. (I actually recommended that to someone who once asked would it be a good idea to have, and inform a client about, security in the next room (answer, no to both). Among other things (like making a rather obvious safety call), was to keep the heels on thru out. No accompany shower, no removing the stilettos. You could poke someone's eye out with one of those heels. (if necessary). lol

They wouldn't suit her first line of defense, which is to run away from the situation.

 

[AMd'MAN]

Why can't I go on Kyra's homepage:frown:

 

[Auggie]

Her site works for me, using Windows Vista and a Chrome browser.
She has nice pics. :great: