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Sorry, vegetarians. A new study says eating green won't lower your risk of early death

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People go vegetarian for lots of reasons, says the University of Alberta’s Timothy Caulfield: Animal welfare. Personal branding. The “health halo.”
It just won’t prolong their life, suggests a large new study.
Researchers who tracked nearly a quarter million adults aged 45 and older in New South Wales found no significant differences in all-cause mortality, meaning the likelihood of dying, of any death, between those who followed a complete, semi- (meat once a week or less) or pesco- (fish permitted) vegetarian diet, and regular meat eaters.
Caulfield, a Canada Research Chair in health law and policy and expert in celebrity health trends, said the study (in which he played no role) fits with an emerging body of evidence that vegetarian diets don’t reduce the risk of premature death.


Caulfield stressed he doesn’t mean that in any kind of pejorative sense. “We all do those things.” And he sympathizes with the animal and environmental justifications. However, “the key message here is that there is no magic to the diet,” which may explain why omnivores sometimes view vegetarians and vegans as a tad morally righteous.
A 2015 paper, titled “It ain’t easy eating greens,” Calgary University and Brock University researchers found meat eaters evaluated vegetarians and vegans (plant-based products only) “equivalently or more negatively than several common prejudice target groups,” and more negatively than several nutritional “outgroups” (gluten intolerants, for example). “Strikingly, only drug addicts were evaluated more negatively than vegetarians and vegans,” the authors note.
According to co-author Gordon Hodson, a professor in Brock’s department of psychology, their research not only shows prejudice against those who abstain from consuming animal flesh, “we show that vegetarians FEEL negative social pressure from meat eaters,” he said in an email. He also doesn’t believe vegetarianism is a cultural norm in the West. “The numbers are still small, and many restaurants do not cater at all to those wanting plant-based foods.”


The Australian study is based on data from the “45 and Up Study,” described as the largest study of healthy aging in the Southern Hemisphere. The analysis is based on 243,096 men and women (mean age 62). After an average of six years of follow-up, the researchers counted up the number of deaths.
Out of 16,836 deaths in total (6.9 per cent of total), there were 80 deaths in vegetarians (5.3 per cent) and 16,756 deaths (6.9 per cent) in others (which includes pesco-vegetarians and semi-vegetarians.)
After adjusting for other factors, such as age, smoking, alcohol consumption, high blood pressure, Type 2 diabetes, heart disease and stroke the researchers found no evidence that any of the variations of vegetarian diets had a protective effect on early death.
For the study’s purposes, complete vegetarian was defined as people who never eat red meat, any meat, fish, poultry, seafood, pork or ham. Vegans were included as vegetarians; the researchers didn’t tease out vegans, or lacto-ovo vegetarians, separately. They also didn’t look at differences in the food content of the vegetarian diets, beyond the absence of meat, or how long people had been vegetarian.

 
Most people are vegetarians because of how animals are butchered not because they want to live longer.
 
I don't trust stats anymore, maybe it's healthier to ignore them. Funky & Music
 
It's a silly study as they seem to be wanting readers to believe that eating a veggie diet has no more benefits than a meat diet. Yet those who took part in this "study" all were consumers of animal products. Since it was said that the vegetarians who took part ate dairy and some ate fish and or meat, etc. It would have had more impact if they'd have used actual vegans( vegans don't eat or use ANY animal products). The comments at the end of the "study" were more interesting than the article itself, imo:)

Wise people know eating less factory farmed meat is healthier for our bodies and the planet in general, but the dairy, meat and fast food industries would suffer greatly should this become everyone's belief. It's a money racket, and as long as money is made, animals will suffer and so will our health and planet. Greed kills.

https://www.cmc-cvc.com/sites/default/files/files/FactSheetClimateChange.pdf
 
I have to eat a steak every now and then. (sorry Cristy) I 've cut down on my red meat intake but now in then I just have to have a big juicy medium rare steak.
 

Well and that must be true because you've found an article written by a woman who earns her living by raising beef, lol. Although I'll give her some credence for raising her beef holistically, although I don't know this for fact, only that she attests to this through a website. So apparently she then must be against factory farming, which is what my articles too are against:) So what was your point, lol.

New Study Shows the Major Environmental Impact of Meat Production | TIME.com
 
Well and that must be true because you've found an article written by a woman who earns her living by raising beef, lol. Although I'll give her some credence for raising her beef holistically, although I don't know this for fact, only that she attests to this through a website. So apparently she then must be against factory farming, which is what my articles too are against:) So what was your point, lol.

New Study Shows the Major Environmental Impact of Meat Production | TIME.com


most of the world is unsuitable for farming crops and vegetables examples are in the arctic where inuits and others live on meat and in Tibet where high altitudes make it hard for plants and crops to grow
 
most of the world is unsuitable for farming crops and vegetables examples are in the arctic where inuits and others live on meat and in Tibet where high altitudes make it hard for plants and crops to grow

I'm confused again with your point? Now you are talking about countries that don't live off of factory farmed meat. So are you arguing Factory farming is good or bad, lol. Inuit people live off of seal, whale, salmon, and because of that are actually healthier than many of us. Since their diets are high in omega 3's and ours omega 6's because of all the factory farmed crap and dairy. Inuit people have next to no diabetes, cancers, heart disease. So are you now suggesting that we should give up farming beef and turn to whale and seal?
The Tibetan climate and terrain allows them to grow crops such as peas, potatoes, grains, etc, they eat sheep, yak, etc. So? and again no factory farming......
I think you've supported my stance, that factory farmed food isn't healthy for our bodies nor our planet. Since all your continuing posts refer to those that eat wild......or holistically grown, which is to some degree wild.
 
demien3k5 said:
:SayWhat?: + *sniff* = :no:

those cows...I agree.

DO you ever notice when you eat super healthy (cook/made by you) and your farts don't smell? Amazing eh? :good:
 
peace said:
Do you ever notice when you eat super healthy (cook/made by you) and your farts don't smell? Amazing eh? :good:

Why am I getting a mental image of a middle class yuppie farting in his kitchen, then spinning around and around in circles on the linoleum while sniffing for something suspect.... :rofl!:
 
demien3k5 said:
Why am I getting a mental image of a middle class yuppie farting in his kitchen, then spinning around and around in circles on the linoleum while sniffing for something suspect.... :rofl!:

Why are you thinking about me too much?


































ps I aint no yuppie.
PSs. Nothing wrong with sniffing. Same with clothes to see if they need to be washed.

PSSS. Stop thinking about me but i am












flattered. :biggrin2:
 
I'm not thinking about you as much as I'm getting a brief 'whif' of you, and I just know that THAT'S not going to end well for anyone.

Like when you smell burnt toast right before you die of a massive stroke.
 
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