SP's that are cheap and provide restrictive GFE

[Crimson Angel]

About time I decided to make a thread about hobbying interests, lol.

I'm looking for SP's that are pretty and well-reviewed, but also affordable (140/200 or less) in exchange for being very restrictive. And by restrictive I mean no BBBJ, no DFK or LFK, none of the stuff being commonly advertised as "good service". Even if she doesn't provide BJ's or even kissing I wouldn't mind, because frankly, I am not a fan of receiving BJ for complicated reasons.

It makes sense for me - I pay less to receive far less services, which I wouldn't mind because I'm not looking for those services.

What I'm looking for is attachment, 30-60 minutes of open communication, some sweet talking, hugging, intimacy, leading to basic vanilla sex. And that's all I need to make my day.

 

[demien3k5]

Most providers will tell you the money is in fact only for their time, not for the services they provide. As such, I believe your strategy of finding a lady who will significantly reduce her fee in exchange for limited services may be fundamentally flawed.

If I were you, I would do my research to find the most affordable (for you) True GFE provider out there, and then through some form of up front communication, share who and what you're all about, and ask if she's open and accepting enough to deliver the encounter you desire.

I should probably mention as well, that regardless of what type of verbal agreement you come to beforehand, YMMV will always play a significant role in the outcome of your session once you meet face to face.

 

[Crimson Angel]

Yeah good point.

I don't know. I'm very new to hobbying.

 

[The Voice]

Do you want them to not offer BJ's or just don't give you a BJ? The former would the hard to find, the latter is simply a matter of communication. But good luck getting a SP to reduce her rates. Technically providing BJ's is easier than connecting on an emotional level. My advice is to focus your research on SPs who are easy to connect with, and then work out the details with them.

 

[DILLIGAF]

OK before an sp says it to you I will get it out of the way for them "Cheap is not always good"
That being I don't know if you drive or are able to get out of Toronto but you may find some sp's out of Toronto that are a little easier on the pocket ok

DILLIGAF

 

[Lily of Montreal]

Crimsom I will let you off the hook because you say you are new to the hobby but a word of advice: do not try to bargain,ever,it is the kiss of death...
Look for a girl in your price range and do not waste the time of someone you would like to meet but is more expensive .
And as a bargaining chip the actions or lack of have no impact on the rate...
I always say that in a meeting we do as much or as little as you want (in my limits) and it has no impact whatsoever on the rate...

 

[Crimson Angel]

Crimsom I will let you off the hook because you say you are new to the hobby but a word of advice: do not try to bargain,ever,it is the kiss of death...
Look for a girl in your price range and do not waste the time of someone you would like to meet but is more expensive .
And as a bargaining chip the actions or lack of have no impact on the rate...
I always say that in a meeting we do as much or as little as you want (in my limits) and it has no impact whatsoever on the rate...

Thanks for the response <3

 

[Guest]

i think you should focus more on finding a girl with the same personality of someone you like and then think about price. the only place you'll get those prices are in hh sessions or backpages (please don't do that you will probably get robbed lol)

sometimes a higher price range is better bc lower they like to bang and go + restrictive instead of spending time to make intelligible conversation. just don't go as often and maybe skip the starbucks that morning hahah

services can be discussed and i'm sure they'll gladly modify theirs despite what they offer bc you'd be seen as an 'easy' client!

 

[Crimson Angel]

(off topic)

Now I think about it it's actually kind of funny how I got all the way to here, asking SP's about rates and other questions...

I used to be a hardcore socialist/anarchist 2-4 years ago who was really against sex work, viewing it as nothing more than exploitation and sex work being "paying women to sacrifice their body autonomy". I also really despised clients, even went as far as wanting them punished just so sex work would end.

Turns out a lot of their views are very speculative, as I'm willing to bet that nobody in the socialist/anarchist communities even spoke to one sex worker. My mind then really opened up, realized that nothing is black and white, and I remember this one time within a sex positive group that I joined one girl told me "maybe you should see a sex worker. Who knows, maybe you'll enjoy it." The idea grew inside me... should I? Maybe I should.

And now I'm here.

 

[Lily of Montreal]

Trust me Crimsom I am not exploited in the slightest...
And I would punch the one who said that to my face,ok my punch might be closer to a little tap but the intention is there...
I am sure there are some ladies who are not willing but I doubt very much that a lady over 25 do not decide for herself,especially if you go the indy route...A 18 years old agency girl,maybe but a established independent?
Not in this country...

Have fun

 

[cristycurves]

There are all types of women in all types of price ranges. Pick someone your attracted to, then have an open discussion with your concerns and expectations. You're implying that you're seeking an experience more than just a service, or a number of services. Escorts that usually provide an "experience" don't typically have a menu/menus, and as Lilly expressed, please never ask for lower rates than advertised, that's something that will almost always end a conversation, but that's just my experience. Good luck and, I hope you find what your looking for

 

[Guest]

Trust me Crimsom I am not exploited in the slightest...
And I would punch the one who said that to my face,ok my punch might be closer to a little tap but the intention is there...
I am sure there are some ladies who are not willing but I doubt very much that a lady over 25 do not decide for herself,especially if you go the indy route...A 18 years old agency girl,maybe but a established independent?
Not in this country...

Have fun

ahahahah i started 3 days after i turned 18 with an agency :don'twantto-see:/

but as you can see i don't get pushed around or exploited at the very least but have met people who are. just need to avoid certain agencies and sketchy behaviour - there's a dark side that's for sure!!

a few people thought i was exploited when they heard about muck being older without meeting us, we just laughed hahahah depends on the individual

 

[catherine st.claire]

What I'm looking for is attachment, 30-60 minutes of open communication, some sweet talking, hugging, intimacy, leading to basic vanilla sex. And that's all I need to make my day.

I see one issue here that perhaps you haven't considered. Open communication and intimacy are both very costly mental labor tasks. I charge what I do because of the mental labor involved and I have substantial price increases coming in 2018 solely based on the mental labor I provide. The physical services are far easier to deliver, both physically and mentally than genuine or presented connection and intimacy. Mental/emotional labor is an integral part of our trade and clients are seemingly unaware of what it is and what it costs the provider to supply it. It's the one void I see within the community mindset/understanding when it comes to pricing and our services as a whole. Without recognizing the toll of the mental labor, therefore not charging adequately for it; providers burn out, struggle with balance and self care in their personal lives and can suffer from mental and physical health issues.

In a nutshell, mental labor is not limited to sex work but any service industry that requires someone to consistently act in a way that contradicts their inner emotions and belief systems in order to do their jobs. Even genuine emotions, when required to be put on display on a consistent basis is tremendously labor intensive. It's a factor that causes stay at home moms to burn out. Smiling and connecting, even with loved ones when one isn't there internally is taxing. Nurses, customer service reps, retail workers are just a few examples and all are vulnerable to the repercussions unless they are completely disengaged on an emotional level (which adds a host of other issues to the mix). Obviously, mental labor is increased exponentially in the sex trade due to the nature of the services we provide. It seems to me the industry is always willing to accept the services/time for compensation exchange but they fail to add in the costs of mental labor which I think for most providers is the most exhaustive and costly aspect of the exchange.

Hiring a service provider is a luxury, not a necessity and a client; if ethical; must consider all costs involved. If you are booking providers who are charging below market rates, it should be clear she is unaware of the tolls taken and will suffer the consequential burn out that inevitably happens. And clients wonder why, their "diamonds in the rough" providers service slips, she takes frequent hiatus', seem disorganized or just outright retires too quickly in spite of not having a transition strategy and income to replace her sex work. Most of the time it's because the mental exhaustion is brutal and their very essence is at risk. Don't assume a compensation balance of less physical service for lower prices unless you are willing to glory hole the experience and keep her head out of it.

Here are some links, perhaps it will be interesting or at least informative reading...

Managing the Hidden Stress of Emotional Labor
“What’s It Worth To You?” Charging For Emotional Labor Is An Inherently Feminist Act


smiles, cat

 

[Crimson Angel]

Thanks. I appreciate the reply.

I see one issue here that perhaps you haven't considered. Open communication and intimacy are both very costly mental labor tasks. I charge what I do because of the mental labor involved and I have substantial price increases coming in 2018 solely based on the mental labor I provide. The physical services are far easier to deliver, both physically and mentally than genuine or presented connection and intimacy. Mental/emotional labor is an integral part of our trade and clients are seemingly unaware of what it is and what it costs the provider to supply it. It's the one void I see within the community mindset/understanding when it comes to pricing and our services as a whole. Without recognizing the toll of the mental labor, therefore not charging adequately for it; providers burn out, struggle with balance and self care in their personal lives and can suffer from mental and physical health issues.

In a nutshell, mental labor is not limited to sex work but any service industry that requires someone to consistently act in a way that contradicts their inner emotions and belief systems in order to do their jobs. Even genuine emotions, when required to be put on display on a consistent basis is tremendously labor intensive. It's a factor that causes stay at home moms to burn out. Smiling and connecting, even with loved ones when one isn't there internally is taxing. Nurses, customer service reps, retail workers are just a few examples and all are vulnerable to the repercussions unless they are completely disengaged on an emotional level (which adds a host of other issues to the mix). Obviously, mental labor is increased exponentially in the sex trade due to the nature of the services we provide. It seems to me the industry is always willing to accept the services/time for compensation exchange but they fail to add in the costs of mental labor which I think for most providers is the most exhaustive and costly aspect of the exchange.

Hiring a service provider is a luxury, not a necessity and a client; if ethical; must consider all costs involved. If you are booking providers who are charging below market rates, it should be clear she is unaware of the tolls taken and will suffer the consequential burn out that inevitably happens. And clients wonder why, their "diamonds in the rough" providers service slips, she takes frequent hiatus', seem disorganized or just outright retires too quickly in spite of not having a transition strategy and income to replace her sex work. Most of the time it's because the mental exhaustion is brutal and their very essence is at risk. Don't assume a compensation balance of less physical service for lower prices unless you are willing to glory hole the experience and keep her head out of it.

Here are some links, perhaps it will be interesting or at least informative reading...

Managing the Hidden Stress of Emotional Labor
“What’s It Worth To You?” Charging For Emotional Labor Is An Inherently Feminist Act


smiles, cat

 

[nntsci]

Most providers will tell you the money is in fact only for their time, not for the services they provide.

absolutely... seeing you for the time at a reduced rate would be an opportunity cost... time she could spend with someone else.