The kiss...

[cristy]

Do you feel it is integral to the GFE... If you weren't offered/allowed that service would you take it personally (ie: think you must of had breathe, poor oral hygiene, or some other reason). Would that refusal end the session for you. Or would you just continue on and enjoy all the other activities. If you did expect it and were refused would you speak up then, or complain afterwards. If afterwards, would you do so by contacting the independent, or agency,(by email, text, or vocally, or by writing a review stating your disappointment?

 

[bluebro69]

I have never had an escort refuse to kiss, however there are some that are more into it than others. Maybe it's just me, maybe they're like that with everyone, how would I ever know? As long as I get some kisses I'm okay, but obviously I'm more apt to repeat with ones who are really into it.

The massage parlour is a whole different story though. Some of the ladies are very much into the kissing, some are not. Some won't even give you a peck on the cheek with a hello/goodbye. Those are the ladies I may possibly see a second time if everything else was good, but will probably never be a 'favourite'. Her body, her choice.

From the posts on these kind of boards, I see that there are a few guys who don't want to kiss SW's anyway so I guess there's someone for everyone out there. For me though, kissing is a part of things and I don't want to do without.

 

[cristy]

Thanks BB for your reply.
I come from a time in the biz when kissing was a no, no. almost as much as was also the bbbj, for that, back then you'd be fired from an agency, no if's and or but's about it. So it took me a while to be open to kissing. I'm selective with whom I do it with, as per my website. And I've have had some awkward moments with some nice gents, who had the unfortunate "odorous breathe". And as forthright, and open as I think I am, I found I was incapable of telling them directly, rather, I just declined that part of our intimacy.....and you are right, there are many guys who don't care if they're kissed or not....

 

[DILLIGAF]

The kiss or lack of it is a real deal breaker for me.
When I want full GFE it has to involve kissing and I don't mean a peck on the cheek or sticking your tongue down her throat either.

DILLIGAF

 

[cristy]

Thanks D for your input, but don't you think it's a bit presumptuous for anyone to say yes I'll kiss, or I won't meet you unless you kiss, until they meet. Perhaps saying it is a possibility is best. Hygiene determines a lot, and you can't determine hygiene until you're up close and personal with someone. People lie, even when they're in front of you. I've been told more than it should happen by men that they're fresh breathed, recently showered, then when you lie next to them, either they lied, or they're definition of clean is far from mine.
So...if I refused to kiss you, it would either be because of your breathe being intolerable, or your dental conditions. And again, neither of those things can be detected until you're close.

 

[DILLIGAF]

Thanks D for your input, but don't you think it's a bit presumptuous for anyone to say yes I'll kiss, or I won't meet you unless you kiss, until they meet. Perhaps saying it is a possibility is best. Hygiene determines a lot, and you can't determine hygiene until you're up close and personal with someone. People lie, even when they're in front of you. I've been told more than it should happen by men that they're fresh breathed, recently showered, then when you lie next to them, either they lied, or they're definition of clean is far from mine.
So...if I refused to kiss you, it would either be because of your breathe being intolerable, or your dental conditions. And again, neither of those things can be detected until your close.

Cristy
I agree with you about the hygiene being important! After all who wants to kiss a dirty ass tray.
But just as some may offer CBJ or BBBJ the junk has to be clean or no sucky sucky!
Like I always say guys and ladies need to stand naked in front of a mirror and stop and think about what they are offering and what they expect.
It is after all a two way street. If a lady says she will or maybe DFK and I show up for a multi hour date and I squeaky clean with a pleasant personality DFK better be on the menu or I will walk. Plain and simple. I will definitely let the lady know why I cut the date short. If it an agency lady I will let the agency know. I am not going to get on a board and slam the lady. I just will not give a review of the lady.
If someone asks me if I know her I will certainly tell the truth.
I don't believe anything is wrong if both sides are honest with each other. You have to remember its just not about sex in a lot of cases.
You are selling a fantasy and we are potentially buying it.

DILLIGAF

 

[cristy]

So if I'm to understand you it seems that services offered/ rather than experience had, is paramount with you... I understand the passion of a kiss, and the looking forward to it. But a gfe, imo, is an experience that is offered not a list of services guaranteed. Things should flow naturally in a gfe, not in a calculated way, with abc, happening, because "it's a "gfe". In passion, things become unpredictable and happen not always as planned. For example.....one of my regulars, who pays my gfe rate (300 hrly) last session had no mouth to mouth kissing, no intercourse, we did this and that, and then I moved onto suckling his balls, flicking my tongue over his delicious cock, while stroking him into hardness.Then I took my little bullet ( a vibrator) set it upon his balls, while continuing to deep throat and tease his cock and that took him into an orgasmic explosion. He certainly was happy and has been back 3 times since....so, had he been like you...I guess he'd not have returned, because he didn't receive any kissing in that session, nor would many consider that session " typical gfe".
I believe that those who concentrate most on what services they will get for $$ often miss out on true passion and a really good time. But I also understand many don't care about that either. To each their own Happy humping, lol.

 

[God]

Your kiss is on my list. Who sang that?

 

[cristy]

Your kiss is on my list. Who sang that?

Thank you, I'm sure you have a long list tho....., as to who sang "that", I'm not sure. Wasn't even aware "that" was a song:biggrin2:

 

[bluebro69]

Hall and Oates

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOuhYuZLNYw

 

[cristy]

Dancing now...Funky & MusicFunky & Music

 

[Prick]

God. Wrong song

 

[cristy]

God. Wrong song

Oh let him be, lol, he seldom gets things right.:wink: Poor fellow, to much preaching and not enough kissing:rofl!:EACE:

 

[Beached]

Kissing I love kissing and being kissed, I have had a couple of sessions with just minimal or no kissing, sex in both cases was great, in fact in one case epic but no repeat because something was lacking, it was just sex.
I am not saying it was just the lack of kissing but something was missing. Poetic eh?
There is good kissing, ok kissing and not so good kissing. Usually the kissing starts out tentative but as the lady gets more comfortable with me it gets sweeter and more genuine. I like that. Sweet kisses from a sweet lady. I like to kiss every part and square inch of a woman.
I love kissing and being kissed

 

[cristy]

Kissing I love kissing and being kissed, I have had a couple of sessions with just minimal or no kissing, sex in both cases was great, in fact in one case epic but no repeat because something was lacking, it was just sex.
I am not saying it was just the lack of kissing but something was missing. Poetic eh?
There is good kissing, ok kissing and not so good kissing. Usually the kissing starts out tentative but as the lady gets more comfortable with me it gets sweeter and more genuine. I like that. Sweet kisses from a sweet lady. I like to kiss every part and square inch of a woman.
I love kissing and being kissed

Knowing you from your posts, I get that your ideal date is one in which you connect with the woman,and both share in the intimate delights. Generally speaking,I do find it surprising that a man would say he would not see a lady again, that he had epic sex with. Surprising to me because even for those who seek deeper things, I'd have thought, epic sex was enough for a repeat visit.

 

[Beached]

Knowing you from your posts, I get that your ideal date is one in which you connect with the woman,and both share in the intimate delights. Generally speaking,I do find it surprising that a man would say he would not see a lady again, that he had epic sex with. Surprising to me because even for those who seek deeper things, I'd have thought, epic sex was enough for a repeat visit.

She chewed me up and spit me out, I don't want to get graphic, but 75 minutes into a two hour booking, I had nothing left, she had no interest in cuddling, giving or getting a massage, talking etc. So I said my thanks and left.

 

[DILLIGAF]

So if I'm to understand you it seems that services offered/ rather than experience had, is paramount with you... I understand the passion of a kiss, and the looking forward to it. But a gfe, imo, is an experience that is offered not a list of services guaranteed. Things should flow naturally in a gfe, not in a calculated way, with abc, happening, because "it's a "gfe". In passion, things become unpredictable and happen not always as planned. For example.....one of my regulars, who pays my gfe rate (300 hrly) last session had no mouth to mouth kissing, no intercourse, we did this and that, and then I moved onto suckling his balls, flicking my tongue over his delicious cock, while stroking him into hardness.Then I took my little bullet ( a vibrator) set it upon his balls, while continuing to deep throat and tease his cock and that took him into an orgasmic explosion. He certainly was happy and has been back 3 times since....so, had he been like you...I guess he'd not have returned, because he didn't receive any kissing in that session, nor would many consider that session " typical gfe".
I believe that those who concentrate most on what services they will get for $$ often miss out on true passion and a really good time. But I also understand many don't care about that either. To each their own Happy humping, lol.

Cristy
I must say the description of the porn session made my heart flutter a bit. LOL
But I really need to ask you how a GFE session is completed without the kissing?
I think that you are wrong in assuming that it is the experience listed that I or any guy reads is what makes the event great.
It is what happens that makes the event. Great or Bad!
I guy has to check the reviews and take some with a grain of salt and take into account who wrote the review as well as its content for proper evaluation.
For an example if a ladies says full GFE and lots of DFK and every review says no kissing then I can expect she false advertises.
If a some say kissing yes and some say kissing no then I can assume she is selective.
Yes I have had some sessions that were like your romper room hot monkey sex as you describe but I can also say that the date started with a warm kiss and ended with another warm kiss.
If I have had a poor experience I have either never completed the date or I just simply will not see that lady again. And yes I have spoken to the agency when it was an agency girl about services not being offered as advertised. But I can also defend my hygiene with the agency. The agency knows my standards and will not send someone who they know will not measure up to the standards that I am booking.
The one thing that I have learned in all my years at this is NEVER assume anything.
And happy humping back at you!! LOL

DILLIGAF

 

[Wes]

Good questions.

 

[cristy]

Beached, thanks for taking the time to explain, I get you and understand.
@Dilligaf...again, I believe you can be intimately passionate with someone without kissing them....apparently some men agree too, as they return and leave, and return again And we both feel connected and fulfilled. You have your beliefs/feelings, I have mine. A gfe isn't a session that guarantees specific acronyms will occur, it's a session within which a man will feel sexually and passionately appreciated, adored, and wanted. Some times that will elude to a lot of kissing, a few pecks, dfk, or none at all. The key is showing your selected partner/s a desire to want to share intimacy and to show him or her, or them, acceptance, no judgement and to allow things to flow naturally.
a little off topic, but I find it petty to hear of men complaining to an agency because the session didn't go as they wanted.Move on. Unless you were a victim of something nefarious....it's intimacy...not a meal, a car, a piece of furniture, or a coat....

 

[Brick]

:-Cool/"