Tips

[Wanker]

I have never wrote a note on a bill. Have you?.

How’s this for a tip: don’t leave a rude note in the age of social media. And don’t “out” a rude customer unless you’re sure the information is correct. A server at a Seattle restaurant took to Facebook after a “tip” she received from a patron — instead of leaving her money, he told her to lose weight.

“P.S. You could stand to loose (sic) a few pounds,” the customer wrote at the bottom of the bill. A furious Victoria Liss posted a photo of the egregious gratuity on Facebook — along with what she said was the customer’s name, his picture and his place of work.

The story tipped off a firestorm online. A blogger wrote a scathing letter addressed to the man while others looked up his Facebook profile and sent unsolicited messages.

But Liss identified the wrong person. On Monday night, she posted a mea culpa on her wall. “I need glasses, I put up the picture of the wrong guy. . . SO SORRY. Blinded by rage.”

Later she wrote, “So sorry to the wrong guy, everyone please just drop it?”. Regardless of who wrote the message, he will likely be Liss’s most memorable mean customer.

What do you think? Is this the worst tip ever? Can you top it? Share your customer horror stories in the comments section and we may include your experiences in future coverage.

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/...ustomer-ever-tell-us-your-horror-stories?bn=1

 

[SmkngPopeye]

The man that wrote the note is an asshole and rude but it did not give her the right to post his name, picture and place of work on Facebook. She is the bitch.

 

[Bill The Pirate]

First of all the guy who wrote that is classless. There is no excuse for bringing up her weight. I read that the bartender and her friends have done an outstanding job of outing the guy.

Secondly, he has every right to not tip someone who gave him poor service though he should has used his ink to explain why.

I have left without tipping and I have left a note to explain why.

 

[Stubby]

We need pictures of Victoria to post it here :no:

 

[jumpingjackflash]

I don't complain too much in restaurants and unless I know I'm not going back for sure I'm very careful about not tipping. I hate pissing off people that have access to items I will be putting in my mouth and swallowing.

 

[BEER]

The man that wrote the note is an asshole and rude but it did not give her the right to post his name, picture and place of work on Facebook. She is the bitch.

+ 1.

 

[catherine st.claire]

This kind of ignorance should never be dignified with a response. To do so puts the responder on the same level as the offender. She was completely out of line.

cat

 

[tboy]

I want to point out too that there were a LOT of misidentified guys out there who had the same name and were hammered by the "white knights". I agree, she was way out of line outing him without being more specific.

When I originally read this story I initially thought the same as most "what an ass" but once again, we're only getting ONE side of the story. Did she provide good service? Was everything satisfactory to the customer? Did she knock over his drink with her big ass? Was she a miserable bitch to the guy? We just don't know......(yes, I've had more than a few wait staff who just didn't like their job and their poor service showed. I was told that leaving 3 pennies as a tip is the universal slap in the face to wait staff and yes, I've left 3 pennies a few times).

This site is a prime example of how too many (so many?) people are ready to pounce without knowing the whole story and this is a prime example of this. I bet there are a whole bunch of lawyers hoping one of the mis-identified men contacts them to file a slander suit.......

BTW: can she stand to lose a few pounds? and if so, why is that SO insulting? If I saw a waiter who needed to wash their hands, or clean their fingernails, or ?? and I got crappy service I might be tempted to write something like that on the bill or maybe in the suggestion box........

To answer the question about writing on a bill: yes I have. At the marina where I kept my boat I used to eat at the pub all the time. This one spring they hired a whole new crop of waitresses and this real hottie served me. I wrote my name and number on the bill and left. Later on the manager told me she picked up the receipt and tossed it in the garbage. He went over, pulled it out and handed it to her and said "keep this one....". She did, it took her a while but she called, and we dated for 5 yrs......

 

[Jesus Quintana]

Whenever I have gotten mediocre service I've tipped under 10 % and told the server what my issue was.
Once in a high end restaurant, I got absolutely TERRIBLE service from a waiter and he had the temerity to point out that I obviously made a mistake in leaving a tip of one penny (bill was about 275 bucks). I was so offended that I called the Maitre'd over told him all the failings of the waiter and as I got up from the table said "See? No tip for you shithook."

 

[tboy]

^^^^^^ I think that's the sense of entitlement that makes wait staff feel that tips are automatic.....They are call gratuities for a reason. While I realize that being a waiter/waitress can be a crappy job, and tips make up a lot of their wage, if you're not a good wait person, you shouldn't be one.

OTOH though there are people like my parents. They won't tip 15% ever. Any time I've ever gone out with them I KNOW there's going to be an argument when the bill comes because they refuse to tip more than 7 or 8% and get po'd when I put down more.....I remember one time the whole family (8 of us) went to the mandarin (dog food) and the bill came to over $200.00 They put down $10.00 TEN fricken dollars. I put down another 20 and I shit you not, my mother went back to the table, grabbed the 20 and brought it out to me in front of the restaurant. Her reason? "we had to go get our own food". I said "but then cleared the plates upteen times, brought us drinks at least 3 times, etc". I took the 20 and walked back in and gave it to the maitre d'. Next time we went and I put down the 20? I stood guard over it......

The last time they came up here we went to my favourite local eatery. Bill was $35.00 they left $3.00 I said "listen, I want to be able to come back here", and put down another $5.00. It's not like the service was bad, it was quite good actually.

 

[a 1 player]

And for some of these reasons I will NEVER go to a restaurant where the gratuity is automatically added.

 

[BlueBalls]

And for some of these reasons I will NEVER go to a restaurant where the gratuity is automatically added.

Not sure how much to tip? In San Francisco, you soon might not have a choice.
There is a growing movement among San Francisco restaurant workers to implement a 25 per cent standard tip.

It has some support among workers and some high-class restaurants in the area, according to the San Jose Mercury News.
Locals mostly met the news with skepticism, saying tips should be a reward for good service, not mandatory.

Calgary-based etiquette expert Janet Watson agrees. She told the Star she only occasionally tips 20 to 25 per cent for exceptional service.
“It’s really got to be something that knocks my socks off for that big a tip,” she said.

Meanwhile, the fallout continues from an exceptionally rude “tip” given to a Seattle server last Friday night.
Instead of receiving money, Victoria Liss got a note from customer Andrew Meyer that read: “P.S. You could stand to loose (sic) a few pounds.”
She posted what she thought was the man’s contact information online. Facebook users rallied behind her, directing scorn and hate mail Meyer’s way. Star readers also weighed in with their worst tipping stories.

But Liss had posted the wrong Andrew Meyer’s information. On Monday night, she said on Facebook she was “blinded by rage,” and admitted she “threw the wrong guy under the bus.”

Now, another Andrew Meyer — this one in Fountain Valley, Calif. — has , offering to make amends and redeem his name by sending Liss a 100 per cent tip on the $28 bill.

“I cannot stand by and have my good name tarnished,” he wrote in a note to the blog The Stranger. “I would like to cover for the trouble that poor Victoria has had to go through on behalf of someone who should be ashamed of himself on so many levels.”
Star readers weighed in on the controversy with nightmare tipping stories of their own, including this gem from Sherman51:

• “At the end of a long night and countless returns to the table . . . (I) presented them a bill for over $300 only to be left with a total tip of $0.68. I came back to his table before he left and put the $0.68 back in front of him and stated, ‘Sir, please you keep this, you obviously need it more than I do.’ His friends howled with laughter and piled $50 on the table before they left.”

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/...ll-for-mandatory-25-tip-in-san-francisco?bn=1

 

[Jesus Quintana]

And for some of these reasons I will NEVER go to a restaurant where the gratuity is automatically added.

In France it is automatically added but you can refuse to pay it. I've done so repeatedly, but6 have had to use the term "Monsieur LeShithook" for shit hook.

 

[PussyScientist]

Big tip or tainted cash? Waitress gets to keep $12,000 left by restaurant customer

Big tip or tainted cash? Waitress gets to keep $12,000 left by restaurant customer

Updated at 5 p.m. PT: A big fat tip or tainted drug money? Struggling Minnesota waitress Stacy Knutson said it’s the former; Moorhead, Minn., police apparently believed it was the latter.

The wad of cash was left in a to-go box on a table at the Moorhead Fryin’ Pan restaurant where Knutson works. Knutson said she followed the customer out to the parking lot to give back what she thought were leftovers, but the customer said, “No, I am good; you keep it,” .

Knutson went back inside the restaurant, peeked inside the box and to her astonishment found $12,000 in cash rolled up in rubber bands. Like a dutiful citizen, she called police, who seized the money and reportedly told her she would get it back if no one claimed it in 60 days.

But when that time period passed, she said police told her she still couldn’t get the money because it was part of a drug investigation. Apparently it didn’t pass the sniff test, because police said the money had a strong odor of marijuana.
Knutson filed a lawsuit in Clay County District Court, claiming the cash is rightfully hers.

On Thursday, her attorney, Craig Richie, said the County Attorney's Office and the Moorhead Police Department had agreed to let her keep all the money.

“We argued that most money that you carry in your pocket has drug residue on it,” Richie told CBS station WCCO. “She could’ve kept the money and nobody would’ve known. But she said, ‘No, I’m going to do the right thing.’ So she called police and now integrity has now prevailed.”

knew that Knutson and her husband were having financial problems raising their five children. He told the news service that he believed the money was intended as a gift to the family.

"Stacy is a very religious woman and this is the will of God," he said.
Read the initial story in The Forum and a follow-up story .

 

[Flash Gordon]

How much was the lawyer's take?.

 

[JBelushi]

The question is. Would you tell your boss or just keep it and shut up?.

 

[Reverse]

She should have kept it without calling the police. She checked with the customer and he told her to keep it, that was good enough.

 

[Firefox]

She should have kept it without calling the police. She checked with the customer and he told her to keep it, that was good enough.

It had to be drug money. No one is that generous with $12,000.

 

[Kyra.Graves]

She should have kept it without calling the police. She checked with the customer and he told her to keep it, that was good enough.

What kind of moral ambiguity is that?
The money could have been from any number of crimes with a wide range of victims that may have needed that money. She did the right thing, she contacted the police, they did not receive any reports or information of a victim that was looking for the money and at that point the money should have been returned to her. We should reward people for doing the right thing not punish them, if someone has been robbed, assaulted, killed while that money was being taken then the money should go to the victim (or family) but this wasn't the case. I am happy to hear the woman did the right thing, checked to see how the money was acquired, I just wish it was returned to her without hassle as I think that having to go to court to fight for the money back will dissuade others from going to the police in the first place.

 

[Madman]

What kind of moral ambiguity is that?
The money could have been from any number of crimes with a wide range of victims that may have needed that money. She did the right thing, she contacted the police, they did not receive any reports or information of a victim that was looking for the money and at that point the money should have been returned to her. We should reward people for doing the right thing not punish them, if someone has been robbed, assaulted, killed while that money was being taken then the money should go to the victim (or family) but this wasn't the case. I am happy to hear the woman did the right thing, checked to see how the money was acquired, I just wish it was returned to her without hassle as I think that having to go to court to fight for the money back will dissuade others from going to the police in the first place.

Very well stated Kyra and the only ones the were wrong was the Police trying to withhold the funds.