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When To Throw In The Towel

Blank_Dave

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When do you decide enough is enough, and you shouldn't be doing something any more?

No, this isn't going to be a sex or relationship based thread...Or is it?

You can't take the jiu jitsu out of the boy, but you certainly can take the boy out with jiu jitsu.

If you recall two years ago, I broke my fibula during jiu jitsu training. During the x-rays and all that goodness, and enchondroma was discovered. (A cartilage based cyst)

This time it's my bloody knee that went. I was rolling with my partner, got into his guard and stood up. I was trying to work him loose, when he slipped and brought his weight into the side of my knee. Now if you imagine standing on the face of a clock, and forwards is 12, my knee buckled towards 10. I don't know if I was imagining it or actually heard the crack-pop-pop, and my leg wrapping around his leg. All I know for sure is pain and hitting the floor on my back. I don't recall any pain once we got untangled, but I decided I'd better rest it out. So some mat lounging ensued. When I finally decided to get up, the knee buckled in the exact same way as before, with about the same results. Funny thing was, there was no pain, but I was sweating like a hog and puffing. This time when I decided to move, I "three wheeled it" into a safe corner. (Scampered on hands and 1 foot, with the bad leg in the air) This time I tried to stand with the assistance of my instructor. Again the knee buckled in to 10 o'clock and down I went. Again, very little lingering pain, but I was seeing stars and wanting to throw up.

Finally with some help, I got into the change room, changed, and into my car for the drive home. Sure my knee was sore and aching, but presented no problems. But I decided I'd call ahead and ask Mom to get my hospital card, call work and tell them, and call a neighbor for a lift to the hospital and to get my crutches from the basement. The rest of drive I'm stewing...."I got a full car....set of tires, gym bag, food bag, new guitar and chin up bar....How am I going to get this stuff into the house?" and "now what?"

When I finally get home, a neighbor gives me a hand in, brings my bags and guitar into the house, and gives me a ride up to the hospital.

The triage nurse looks at me and laughs "new or old crutches?" "Old crutches, new injury."

Well to cut it short, the x-rays show nothing, and the ER doctor wouldn't comment on what was damaged or to what extent other than there is soft tissue damage in the knee and I need to wear a brace on it for the next couple of weeks, at least. I was also given a not excusing me from work for two weeks.

I'm already working on the short term disability benefits through work. I'm just not sure if I should also start on the paper work for EI, should I be down for more than the two weeks.

I guess the question boils down to this....I've had two significant leg injuries to my legs in the past two years, via jiu jitsu. With that in mind, should I consider throwing in the towel? As a martial art, I do find it frustrating. I'm one of the least experienced members, so I'm constantly getting beaten up in rendori (sparring), I'm ok with that. Also being quite a but heavier than most of the other members, I try not to use my weight against them, but being a grappling form one must use their weight. Plus being a grappling form, it involves alot of physical contact, which I'm not entirely comfy with...Especially vs the female members.

The the muay thai I'm going to stick with....Well once I can do that again.
 
I feel for you Dave. But as my Father and Grandpa always said. Never ever give up. When there is a will there is a way.
 
Hang in there Dave. Always have this in your thoughts.


There are millions of people worse off than I am.

Capish?.
 
It's ruining your money earning abilities Dave. E.I. will be much less I'm guessing and once your knee is injured in this fashion you will start to really feel it as you age. I would pack it in but keep in mind this advice is coming from someone who has been referred to more than one time as a little princess.
 
As a former BJJ practitioner I will weigh in on this but truth be told I just smoked a big fatty and am less than coherent at present.

So later dudes.
 
While I do see your points about not giving up, BJJ is just for fun, fitness and psychological benefits. Thus far I've paid for it with a broken leg and about 3 months off work; and an specifically damaged knee and at least 2 weeks off work.

Mind you, I also commented to a coworker who told me I was too old to be doing this stupid shit "I didn't do this when I was young, I'm just making up for it now."
 
Dave wait till your knee feels better and then decide.....
You are lucky to have choices.....:wink2:
 
While I do see your points about not giving up, BJJ is just for fun, fitness and psychological benefits. Thus far I've paid for it with a broken leg and about 3 months off work; and an specifically damaged knee and at least 2 weeks off work.

Mind you, I also commented to a coworker who told me I was too old to be doing this stupid shit "I didn't do this when I was young, I'm just making up for it now."

I studied Tae Kwon Do for 27 years, and only retired after both my knees melted down (I was also a marathon runner, so that didn't help). There gets to be a point where the body says "enough", but we hate that point. I can't tell you how much I miss the endorphine rush of running and a good TKD fight. Don't quit till you have no choice. You'll regret it.
 
I am with the others. Rest for a few weeks and listen to your body. Quitting should be your last option.
 
While I do see your points about not giving up, BJJ is just for fun, fitness and psychological benefits. Thus far I've paid for it with a broken leg and about 3 months off work; and an specifically damaged knee and at least 2 weeks off work.

Mind you, I also commented to a coworker who told me I was too old to be doing this stupid shit "I didn't do this when I was young, I'm just making up for it now."

First question Dave is how old are you?

I had to give it up when I was in my middle 40's because I just couldn't recuperate enough between lifting weights, Cardio training and MMA.

I was over training big time and perhaps you are doing the same thing. Have you considered that?

People who have never done BJJ can't fathom just how hard it is on your body. Probably the best workout out there.

Another consideration is that the instruction you are getting is substandard and it might time to switch clubs.

I've training with guys that don't know the meaning of drilling or rolling at 50%. And this when students really start to get hurt.
 
First question Dave is how old are you?

I had to give it up when I was in my middle 40's because I just couldn't recuperate enough between lifting weights, Cardio training and MMA.

I was over training big time and perhaps you are doing the same thing. Have you considered that?

People who have never done BJJ can't fathom just how hard it is on your body. Probably the best workout out there.

Another consideration is that the instruction you are getting is substandard and it might time to switch clubs.

I've training with guys that don't know the meaning of drilling or rolling at 50%. And this when students really start to get hurt.

Excellent points. Some students go balls to the walls and it really is up to the instructor to control the adrenalin and ego of the students..
 
I gave up martial arts.................now i go to yoga class because i love chix in lululemon yoga pants.
Blank dave and maurice.......try yoga. I used to think yoga was gay. but the health benefits are pretty incredible. Plus i've dated a few yummy mummies from my yoga class.
 
I gave up martial arts.................now i go to yoga class because i love chix in lululemon yoga pants.
Blank dave and maurice.......try yoga. I used to think yoga was gay. but the health benefits are pretty incredible. Plus i've dated a few yummy mummies from my yoga class.

You have a one tracked mind!Praise-Bowing
 
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