Maybe I came off the wrong way. You have a right to have your policy the way you feel works for you and I wish you all the best success. I'm just stating my policy and the other clients should know they do have choices, especially possible newbies.
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Maybe I came off the wrong way. You have a right to have your policy the way you feel works for you and I wish you all the best success. I'm just stating my policy and the other clients should know they do have choices, especially possible newbies.
One more thing, many many many use hobby phones and aliases. After one becomes comfortable with a provider, usually both provider and client end up disclosing many real life personal tidbits which is fine. I have several ladies that do know my real name and even my place of employment but I also know their real name and many aspects of their personal life but this can't be expected on the first visit by neither party.
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So fear mongering newbies is the reason then???
You have the Dr. saying "WAY TOO MANY" when he can't name more then one. Going on about it having been "you,you,you" like I am personally in charged. I mean I am the head of the big bad vagina company clearly out to get men and their little dog too.
LOL.
State your policy. I will state mine, people can read and know they have choices.
Like I said, I won't label you guys who don't share info as hiding it for some malicious reason like being a closet rapist and maybe you guys can stop saying people like me asking for information are not doing so maliciously either.
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First time clients are coming to my personal private house. Trust me when I say, they have just as much if not more info on me. From the beginning. It can and does work.
Not saying I don't get your side, just wish maybe y'all wouldn't be so closed minded to mine.
A client that is married and has a good career can lose everything if his escort escapade gets out. I see your side and I completely understand the desire to have it your way but I'm sorry, it doesn't work for me and many but if you can carve out a clientele that provides the income you desire I'm ecstatic for you.
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My point was there are risks on both sides, no matter HOW safe you want to think you are. For us ladies the risks can be life threatening so some of us require more screening so we feel safer, or at least there's a trail in case we get murdered/raped/robbed/assaulted. I really don't get why some guys want to believe this stuff doesn't happen, google how many escorts go missing every year, it happens. A lot.
Anyhow, like Jessica said, it is absolutely your choice not to see providers who screen, and it is absolutely our choice how extensively we want to screen. There really shouldn't be a debate as no one is likely to change their minds. :good:
Anyhow, like Jessica said, it is absolutely your choice not to see providers who screen, and it is absolutely our choice how extensively we want to screen. There really shouldn't be a debate as no one is likely to change their minds. :good:
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Which have a better chance of getting out due to his own fuck ups then having an escort rat him out to his wife.
This is not a have it my way or your way and that is my point. You only see one way.
We get it - you don't want to give your name number. What I don't get is why you try to condemn me for even asking. I am not looking for YOU to be my client. So I don't care about your real name and number. I support your right to privacy, I speak out on your behalf to keep your fun on the down-lo etc.
But you, you have to warn the poor newbies that big bad me is going to fuck them over.
Do you hear me saying that you or any man that doesn't want give a real name is a closet rapist ready to pounce?
Why do you get to label me as a possible risk for what I ask but I am not allowed to do the same with you.
As as I said, how many outings happened in 2017? How many escorts where murdered in 2017?
You are talking about a ruined life. I am taking about life actually taken. Are you really so selfish to not see the difference?
And NONE of you have told me how many people you personally have to your private home who's name and number you don't know.
With me, with the way I book, there is a quid pro quo. You have my info and I have yours. You can fuck me over and I can fuck you. We are on equal ground that way.
I don't want to worry about my daughter coming to my house to find my body murdered in my home.
But whatever - I and other escorts like me who are professional, who do not out clients, who don't have a single blemish on their record, will continued to be called out by men like you for the crimes of others. You keep trying to deter business from me. Go ahead.
I will I'll have enough respect for you to not label you out negatively however. I won't tell escorts that all men who hide their name and number are out to get them.
Thankfully I don't require this income to pay my bills which is why I can speak up like this. Which is why I can screen to a comfortable level.
I do feel sorry for all the women who don't have choice about screening. Some of them are not alive now to see 2018.
But hey - as long as your wife doesn't know though, it's all gravy.
Sorry to BB for the highjack.
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why are you thinking about his ARSE?
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OK, so re-reading that, I will admit, I need a bit of a dicking. LOL
That came across a little bit harsher then I intended.
But come on.... We have to warn the newbies?????
I just picture R. Lovejoy's wise.
"Would someone please think about the NEWBIES!!!!" LOL
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Hmmmmmm
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it's true i agree with jess. :clapping2:
its a risk of PTSD or death vs. a divorce (which was probably going to happen anyway bc aside from open relationships, married people don't look elsewhere unless there's a problem)
just don't hobby if you aren't prepared to risk your marriage!!
its a risk of PTSD or death vs. a divorce (which was probably going to happen anyway bc aside from open relationships, married people don't look elsewhere unless there's a problem)
just don't hobby if you aren't prepared to risk your marriage!!
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I will disagree with you here and I'm definitely one to talk but if one decides to leave their marriage because they have found someone else it is one thing but losing everything because of the hobby is wrong. This is why gentlemen hobby, for discretion not to be tweeted out or have some SP contacting their family with the details of the rendezvous because they had the client's personal information.
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you have a point, i would never disclose a client's info to his family, even if he had done something horrible to me, but some SPs will! losing family for hobbying is not right, but it is a risk clients should think about if they come across the wrong provider. i guess what i was saying was for extreme cases involving police so *don't treat an SP like shit if you aren't prepared to risk your marriage sorry MM
for me, the info was only for warning other SPs in case he hurts someone else but i can't send them accurate info if it isn't consistent. tbh i'm one of the few that don't care if it's a fake name as long as they use that exact "name" with every appt!
i understand a lot of clients aren't like this though thank god. unfortunately, it matches up to which side has the bigger risk. the client that physically hurt me most was one i had seen 5x, super nice and brought me gifts until the last appt so you never know when a person will change:sorry2:
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Except I can bet you $1000, there are more marriages ending because of men fucking up and outing themselves, over marriages ended because of the SP outing them. You have way more chance of risking your marriage just by hobbying then you do with an SP ratting you out.
In all those cases, you lose your marriage because of this hobby and your involvement in it and outing yourself in some way shape or form. So the advice is sound. Don't hobby if you are not willing to risk your marriage since you have a better chance of fucking it up yourself.
Still, nothing compared to the 10 murdered sex workers in 2017 documented by Pivot. That is 10 lives gone. Done. 10 Families destroyed. 10 sets of parents who lost a daughter.
How many marriages ended by outing this year?
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oh damn jess has a really good point too...... now i'm on the fence again lol clients do fuck that up more than SPs meddle. only heard of 1 case for the SP side and it was 5 years ago. rarely ever hear of clients getting offed too....
I do agree most of the time it's either the clients or Sp's fuck up that leads to either being outed, this is true. This is why we on both sides should be vigilant in protecting our personal info but I do agree, there should be protection for the ladies against violent johns.
Although many times it can be as a lady posted a gent that's been a regular many times and the lines get blurred. Decriminalization and the fear of going to the police for help being eliminated I believe would be one very good solution.
Although many times it can be as a lady posted a gent that's been a regular many times and the lines get blurred. Decriminalization and the fear of going to the police for help being eliminated I believe would be one very good solution.
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Oh LORD, I hope it's not a chain link fence. I sat on one when I was a young lad and it was horribly painful.:don'twantto-see:/
There is a lot of truth is this statement.
I always believe in preparing for the worse case scenario.
but when it comes down to it the lady doesn't want to expose the guy for the same reason he shouldn't expose the lady... mutually assured destruction.
Most ladies don't want everyone knowing about their private affairs either. The lady I see has family and friend and a career outside of escorting.
We respect each other.
So they respect the clients privacy because they want privacy themselves and its a business necessity
But someone who has committed rape doesn't deserve any privacy... they have forfeited their right to privacy and need to be in prison.
ps I have no problem giving my real name and regular cell number to the ladies I see.
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Back to the pre-booking topic.
I have 4 scheduled.
1. is a fav, looking forward to seeing her again and not worried about this one. (Although, she did cancel a prebooked and confirmed appt once. I didn’t see her for a while after that, but she treats me good)
2. Is prebooked and confirmed. She probably doesn’t even remember cancelling our last appt. she cancelled because of weather, but was tweeting about enjoying nite out at the Keg at the time our appt was supposed to be.
3. New lady, got screened and sent deposit. (Hopefully all goes well).
4. New lady, will be on tour in my area so I got screened and prebooked. She has no idea our appt was cancelled, after driving downtown, when she quit or was fired by the agency she used to work for.
I have 4 scheduled.
1. is a fav, looking forward to seeing her again and not worried about this one. (Although, she did cancel a prebooked and confirmed appt once. I didn’t see her for a while after that, but she treats me good)
2. Is prebooked and confirmed. She probably doesn’t even remember cancelling our last appt. she cancelled because of weather, but was tweeting about enjoying nite out at the Keg at the time our appt was supposed to be.
3. New lady, got screened and sent deposit. (Hopefully all goes well).
4. New lady, will be on tour in my area so I got screened and prebooked. She has no idea our appt was cancelled, after driving downtown, when she quit or was fired by the agency she used to work for.
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