Are People Born Gay?

[Blackrock13]

I like gay people but I am still a virgin.

I'm guessing there's a joke there somewhere but I'm not getting it. Are you here 'til the end of the month?

 

[Rebecca Richardson]

My question is and I am asking for the purpose of discussion only. Why is it that most heterosexual men find two women having sex so appealing and those same men will turn away looking at two men engaged in sex?

Because they've been told one is hot and the other will lead to them being criticized, ostracized, or otherwise socially punished.


Complicated question for a forum (if years and years of thinking can't do it we probably can't either), and ultimately irrelevent to how one lives one's daily life.

I like that the group is articulating live-and-let-live, but it scares me that in a lot of cases it might be live-and-let-live but don't let me see/experience it personally. Separate but equal is simply not a strategy that works out too well.

 

[Blackrock13]

My question is and I am asking for the purpose of discussion only. Why is it that most heterosexual men find two women having sex so appealing and those same men will turn away looking at two men engaged in sex?

Because they've been told one is hot and the other will lead to them being criticized, ostracized, or otherwise socially punished.


Complicated question for a forum (if years and years of thinking can't do it we probably can't either), and ultimately irrelevent to how one lives one's daily life.

I like that the group is articulating live-and-let-live, but it scares me that in a lot of cases it might be live-and-let-live but don't let me see/experience it personally. Separate but equal is simply not a strategy that works out too well.

You make some good points, but get a weak when you begin the, 'how do you know if you've not tried it' line of thinking.

I don't have to be an alcoholic to know it's not for me. i don't haver to addicted to Oxy to know it's not a good thing. I've done some thrilling things, but I have no desire to wrestle alligators, nor do I have any internal need to run with the bulls in Pamplona.

Not experiencing something doesn't make your lack of interest in it invalid.

 

[Rebecca Richardson]

You make some good points, but get a weak when you begin the, 'how do you know if you've not tried it' line of thinking.

I don't have to be an alcoholic to know it's not for me. i don't haver to addicted to Oxy to know it's not a good thing. I've done some thrilling things, but I have no desire to wrestle alligators, nor do I have any internal need to run with the bulls in Pamplona.

Not experiencing something doesn't make your lack of interest in it invalid.

Fair, I wasn't clear. I'm not saying you need to try being with the same gender to know if you're attracted, simply voicing concern with the "do it and be free with it, just don't let me see or know about it" crowd. That wold be someone who might say they don't care about your sexual orientation and won't discriminate, but don't like someone having a picture of their partner on their desk, same-sex partners kissing each other goodbye in public, or don't support the primary partner's rights to make healthcare decisions or adopt based on the fact that they have matching genitalia.

 

[Blackrock13]

Fair, I wasn't clear. I'm not saying you need to try being with the same gender to know if you're attracted, simply voicing concern with the "do it and be free with it, just don't let me see or know about it" crowd. That wold be someone who might say they don't care about your sexual orientation and won't discriminate, but don't like someone having a picture of their partner on their desk, same-sex partners kissing each other goodbye in public, or don't support the primary partner's rights to make healthcare decisions or adopt based on the fact that they have matching genitalia.

All good points. Hypocrisy can be subtle or can be in your face.

 

[Rebecca Richardson]

Addenum to my original reply, seeing as I'm being encouraged and am stuck in traffic:

Men find two women together 'hot' but not two men because they've been socially conditioned to believe that female sexuality isn't its own entity, and cannot exist without male interest/comment/at minimum observation.

Also interesting that it's only 'hot' when it's two male-deemed-attractive women involved (usually tall, slender, longer hair, busty), and only activities performed for male-viewing pleasure (see CG's posted pictures.). I doubt genuine girl-on-girl sex would have a market in the pornography world, and as such there's virtually nothing out there.

But that's an aside from the orgininal question.

 

[Blackrock13]

Addenum to my original reply, seeing as I'm being encouraged and am stuck in traffic:

Men find two women together 'hot' but not two men because they've been socially conditioned to believe that female sexuality isn't its own entity, and cannot exist without male interest/comment/at minimum observation.

Also interesting that it's only 'hot' when it's two male-deemed-attractive women involved (usually tall, slender, longer hair, busty), and only activities performed for male-viewing pleasure (see CG's posted pictures.). I doubt genuine girl-on-girl sex would have a market in the pornography world, and as such there's virtually nothing out there.

But that's an aside from the orgininal question.

hmmmm!

I hope you're on a bus or in a taxi.

 

[Cycleguy007]

Also interesting that it's only 'hot' when it's two male-deemed-attractive women involved (usually tall, slender, longer hair, busty), and only activities performed for male-viewing pleasure (see CG's posted pictures.). I doubt genuine girl-on-girl sex would have a market in the pornography world, and as such there's virtually nothing out there.

You say that like its a bad thing? :shock:

Seriously though, I admit you have a point... but the stuff from Girlfriends Films is likely as "real" as you will get in the porn world and still does very well.

But, I also admit that I prefer Viv Thomas... Does that make me a bad person?

 

[Rebecca Richardson]

You say that like its a bad thing? :shock:

Seriously though, I admit you have a point... but the stuff from Girlfriends Films is likely as "real" as you will get in the porn world and still does very well.

But, I also admit that I prefer Viv Thomas... Does that make me a bad person?

No more than liking a Dominant guy makes me a bad feminist. Gen says you can't hold someone accountable for what they like in the bedroom, and I'm subscribing to her school of thought.

 

[Cycleguy007]

No more than liking a Dominant guy makes me a bad feminist. Gen says you can't hold someone accountable for what they like in the bedroom, and I'm subscribing to her school of thought.

Agreed... as long as it only involves willing adult partners. :???:

 

[Auggie]

Addenum to my original reply, seeing as I'm being encouraged and am stuck in traffic:

Men find two women together 'hot' but not two men because they've been socially conditioned to believe that female sexuality isn't its own entity, and cannot exist without male interest/comment/at minimum observation.

Also interesting that it's only 'hot' when it's two male-deemed-attractive women involved (usually tall, slender, longer hair, busty), and only activities performed for male-viewing pleasure (see CG's posted pictures.). I doubt genuine girl-on-girl sex would have a market in the pornography world, and as such there's virtually nothing out there.

But that's an aside from the orgininal question.

Excellent points, I fully agree.
Women are also conditioned to find some types attractive, not just men so we're each missing out on so many possibilities.

 

[Rebecca Richardson]

Excellent points, I fully agree.
Women are also conditioned to find some types attractive, not just men so we're each missing out on so many possibilities.

Definitely, I'm not targeting anyone. I'm sure cute-bald would also agree with you Kinda sucks (but I'm still not going to be able to control my preferences).

 

[Auggie]

Becky, I love your hair.
I know you'd look cute if you shaved your head bald but I don't think you need to explore that niche market.
:he:

 

[Jawbone]

Stop with all the love and let's have some girl on girl action.

 

[jiggyjiggy]

Poll: (sorry I don't know how to set one up)

Was this chap born gay or not?

Yes

No
arty:

 

[GenevieveLajoie]

You say that like its a bad thing? :shock:

Seriously though, I admit you have a point... but the stuff from Girlfriends Films is likely as "real" as you will get in the porn world and still does very well.

Nah. If you want "real" dyke porn, check out The Crash Pad series. This is as "real" as you will get in porn (from my research at least).

I'd be surprised if it found much of an audience outside of its target audience.

 

[dreamblade]

So HUBGFEies, how do you identify yourself on the Kinsey scale?

 

[Laster]

I have nothing to say. I just wanted to have 100th reply on this thread

 

[Hardcore]

I don't think it matters why someone is gay, nor do I care if someone is gay. There are FAR more important things about a person's character than what they do in the privacy of their own bedroom.

 

[raggie]

I don't think people born gay, its a choice people makes in their mid teenager time.