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This article gave me an idea. Why don't we ,members, share our interesting/dull/crazy dating experience. Meanwhile here s the article and what did you think of her attitude?

[h=1]Dating Diaries: Marie and Jeff[/h]

There was something peculiar and familiar about her blind date.


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To Marie's horror, Jeff ordered two vodka cranberries. (DREAMSTIME)


By SPECIAL TO THE STAR
Sat., March 4, 2017


Marie is a 30-year-old sales rep who shares a condo in King West with a roommate. “I’m busy and active, so I live in skinny dark jeans,” she says. “At work, I’ll pair them with a blouse and cute flats, and on a date, I’ll wear heels and a slinky top. Marie says “I’m always doing something. Taking a class, sitting on a committee, travelling somewhere, running half-marathons, doing yoga.” She says she is “shy at first, but once I’m comfortable with someone, I will not stop talking.” Marie wants to date a guy who is “funny, kind, and a bit of a manly-man, like he should be able to pick me up, and build a fire.”

I was in a long-term relationship that ended badly, and I wasn’t ready to start dating again for several months. I finally agreed to go on a blind date. I had no idea who Jeff was, and he isn’t on social media, so I wasn’t able to creep him. I was told he was cute, average height, with “football physique” -- not the chiseled abs kind — and was super sweet.

My friend told me that Jeff was actively looking for a girlfriend. I wasn’t interested in anything serious, but I decided to give Jeff a chance anyway. We texted a bit, and Jeff seemed funny and nice. He suggested that we check out a new bar that had opened up downtown.

With the mention of going to a bar, I knew that this wasn’t going to be my dream date. If I were a guy planning a first date, I would be more creative, and show that there was actually some thought put into it, but whatever. I said sure, because it was easy and because I wanted to appease my friend who set us up.

Jeff was 10 minutes late, which isn’t that big of a deal, and he apologized profusely. There wasn’t an instant connection — no fireworks, no desire to kiss him, nothing. He was nice and polite, but there were no “This guy is so sexy” or “I need to know more” feelings. It didn’t help that when he arrived, he was covered in sweat. He blamed the delay on work, and I said it was fine. He was dressed nicely, in a collared shirt with jeans.

There was something peculiar but familiar about him that I just couldn’t place. I felt like I knew him from somewhere. I was probably staring at him too much. The bar was empty, except for one other couple sitting in a corner booth. It was still early for people to start their Saturday-night partying, but the atmosphere felt weird.

We grabbed a booth and continued our awkward small talk. Eventually the server came over. I ordered a vodka tonic, and to my horror, Jeff — a 33-year-old man — ordered a vodka cranberry. He ordered another one before he was finished the first, and proceeded to double-fist them.

I thought I’d try to establish something we had in common, and said that I used to drink vodka cranberries like they were going out of style … when I was 19. He laughed, but I think it was to hide some embarrassment.

The date was not going well. Our conversation covered the usual topics, or at least it did for me: Jeff contributed next to nothing. When I tried to probe deeper, I received overly general or “I don’t know” answers. He wouldn’t tell me anything about his job, other than “It’s boring.” His apparent lack of interest or aspirations was a big turnoff. The only topic he seemed interested in contributing to was dating, when he told me about some of his friends’ seemingly amazing and perfect relationships.

Sirens were going off in my head, telling me to run for the hills. Another alarm bell, still going since the start of the date, was telling me that I’ve met this guy somewhere before. Eventually, I cracked and told Jeff that I had just gotten out of a long-term relationship and couldn’t handle anything serious.

He was nice and said that he completely understood. But, a moment later, the server dropped off our bill, and Jeff asked if we could split the tab, which was less than $30. This was an even bigger turnoff than his disinterest in talking about work.

Flabbergasted, I said OK, but had no cash, so Jeff had to wave down the server to split the bill for us. We said our goodbyes, somewhat awkwardly, and as he walked away, I suddenly remembered — he was a delivery guy, and had delivered something to my office a few months before.

No wonder he didn’t want to talk about it.

Marie rates her date (out of 10): 2
 
I once went on an outdoor date. Next day wanted to see her again but I was told she had a head sunburn. Being me, thought that was one lame excuse. Drove to her house which I felt like a stalker to confirm my rejection. To my surprise she opened that door and did get burn on her thin hair.

She refused to see me ever again.
 
My last civilian date was last year sometime. We met through friends and they thought we'd get along. She was at least 20 years younger than me but then again, i look at least 15 years younger, so I've been told.

We arranged to meet for a dinner date and that I would pick her up as she didn't drive. We had exchanged some pics and she looked GND cute. I was hesitant as it didn't seem that she had many interests that were similar but what the hell, it was time to kill.

During dinner, we exchanged small talk; much of which I initiated using FORD (Family, Occupation, Recreation, Dreams). Like I thought, there wasn't much in the R & D department. Through it all, she never put her phone down. After the first 5 minutes, I was struggling. The questions that I asked were followed by a silence as she finished off her text and then answered or said "I'm sorry, what did say?".

Thankfully, the dinner came to an end. She never really put her phone down. The waitress came by and asked if we wanted to see the desert menu. "No, just the cheque please.". I didn't give her a chance to answer. As the cheque came, my date was still busy on her phone. I counted out enough cash to cover my meal, got up as the waitress came by to grab the cash and saw that there was not sufficient cash. She looked at me bewildered and I said "Don't forget, she had 3 refills.". My date looked at me and then the 4 greens. "Are you kidding? We're splitting the bill? I don't have any money with me.". Me, "Maybe you should ask the person that you were texting to come by and drop some cash off for you, he/she can also give you a ride home too. Have a good evening.". I walked out. As I drove out of the parking lot, she was outside calling me every name in the book. I waved and drove off.

I stopped down the street and checked agency schedules in the area and within an hour, I was naked and getting serviced by a lovely young lady.
 
My last civilian date was last year sometime. We met through friends and they thought we'd get along. She was at least 20 years younger than me but then again, i look at least 15 years younger, so I've been told.

We arranged to meet for a dinner date and that I would pick her up as she didn't drive. We had exchanged some pics and she looked GND cute. I was hesitant as it didn't seem that she had many interests that were similar but what the hell, it was time to kill.

During dinner, we exchanged small talk; much of which I initiated using FORD (Family, Occupation, Recreation, Dreams). Like I thought, there wasn't much in the R & D department. Through it all, she never put her phone down. After the first 5 minutes, I was struggling. The questions that I asked were followed by a silence as she finished off her text and then answered or said "I'm sorry, what did say?".

Thankfully, the dinner came to an end. She never really put her phone down. The waitress came by and asked if we wanted to see the desert menu. "No, just the cheque please.". I didn't give her a chance to answer. As the cheque came, my date was still busy on her phone. I counted out enough cash to cover my meal, got up as the waitress came by to grab the cash and saw that there was not sufficient cash. She looked at me bewildered and I said "Don't forget, she had 3 refills.". My date looked at me and then the 4 greens. "Are you kidding? We're splitting the bill? I don't have any money with me.". Me, "Maybe you should ask the person that you were texting to come by and drop some cash off for you, he/she can also give you a ride home too. Have a good evening.". I walked out. As I drove out of the parking lot, she was outside calling me every name in the book. I waved and drove off.

I stopped down the street and checked agency schedules in the area and within an hour, I was naked and getting serviced by a lovely young lady.

You should have used GMC (girl, me, ciao)
 
The last time I went on a blind date was back in my 20's. A friend set me up with some guy she knew.

He called and invited me to watch him play baseball, and I thought that sounded nice, envisioning hanging out with him and his friends at a casual game.

Turns out he plays for some kind of semi-pro team, so I sat in the stands all by myself, while he was in the dugout.

I tried to remain positive and optimistic, as he drove me home after the game and invited me to attend a wedding as his date on the next weekend.

I agreed, got all dressed up on the day, sat and waited, and waited, and waited ... and the asshole stood me up without even a phone call to cancel.
 
I just remembered another one.

I dated (mostly f*cked) this guy for a few months, then we broke up.

He did a B&E, got caught and went to jail.

He started writing to me while he was doing his time, and had me convinced he was in love with me by the time he got out.

He called me when he got released, told me he was on his way over to screw my brains out ... never showed up, never called.

Finally called him after a few hours of waiting, and he laughed and told me he got a better offer from another ex and had gone to screw her instead.
 
The last time I went on a blind date was back in my 20's. A friend set me up with some guy she knew.

He called and invited me to watch him play baseball, and I thought that sounded nice, envisioning hanging out with him and his friends at a casual game.

Turns out he plays for some kind of semi-pro team, so I sat in the stands all by myself, while he was in the dugout.

I tried to remain positive and optimistic, as he drove me home after the game and invited me to attend a wedding as his date on the next weekend.

I agreed, got all dressed up on the day, sat and waited, and waited, and waited ... and the asshole stood me up without even a phone call to cancel.

I just remembered another one.

I dated (mostly f*cked) this guy for a few months, then we broke up.

He did a B&E, got caught and went to jail.

He started writing to me while he was doing his time, and had me convinced he was in love with me by the time he got out.

He called me when he got released, told me he was on his way over to screw my brains out ... never showed up, never called.

Finally called him after a few hours of waiting, and he laughed and told me he got a better offer from another ex and had gone to screw her instead.

Men are assholes...
 
Nothing worse than dating a girl on the rebound. Save your time and never do it.
 
I had a chuckle at the article. The women felt he was drinking "teenager' drinks then was upset he expected her to pay her share. Everything she notes about him as not so good is superficial. It has nothing to do with who he is, his character nor how he would treat a partner. It's all about what he wore, what he drank, etc. How typical.

I've only dated sex workers since about 2007 but I can't imagine returning that the civilian dating world. It's a good reminder of how lucky I am to have what I have right now. I don't care about her job; I care about her. It's a reminder that I'm a fortunate man.
 
One of the direct effects of my mental health issues is that I don't have any stories to tell.
 
Keep the stories coming! Some of them make me glad I didn't date much.
 
I had a chuckle at the article. The women felt he was drinking "teenager' drinks then was upset he expected her to pay her share. Everything she notes about him as not so good is superficial. It has nothing to do with who he is, his character nor how he would treat a partner. It's all about what he wore, what he drank, etc. How typical.

I've only dated sex workers since about 2007 but I can't imagine returning that the civilian dating world. It's a good reminder of how lucky I am to have what I have right now. I don't care about her job; I care about her. It's a reminder that I'm a fortunate man.

Awww, nice:) Good to see there are men who don't judge. I've met a few who visit with working girls, yet can't understand how we can have relationships? Apparently some think we're good enough to "bed" but not good enough to be in a relationship with.
 
Awww, nice:) Good to see there are men who don't judge. I've met a few who visit with working girls, yet can't understand how we can have relationships? Apparently some think we're good enough to "bed" but not good enough to be in a relationship with.

It seems I only date SW's as well...somewhat successfully. In my "Introducing a friend to the hobby" thread, my buddy and I spoke about how open and non judgmental most SW's are about sex and life in general. When I openly talk about sex, desires, kinks with civilians, I get THAT look. I don't with SW's.
 
Awww, nice:) Good to see there are men who don't judge. I've met a few who visit with working girls, yet can't understand how we can have relationships? Apparently some think we're good enough to "bed" but not good enough to be in a relationship with.

I started dating my SO because she had the traits I want in a partner. It comes with good and bad. Sometimes SP's can suffer from PTSD or bottled up emotional rage. It's a case of learning how to stick handle the woman when she's in that mood. The benefits are you usually have a relationship that's much more honest. MANY couples fall apart because of money or sex. I have friends whose relationship was destroyed because he found out his wife had a threesome with 2 men. She was just curious but it started the end of the marriage. I can't ever imagine going back to that jealous or that bullshit.

And even if I did..what would I tell my next civilian partner? I've told some of my friends over the years and the reaction was sometimes just bad. Interesting is that the most supportive of my friends were the females in my life. They reacted far more positively than the males. In fact, several admitted to me they'd had to do sex work to survive and it was a secret their spouses didn't know. And with that came other stories of "I was a drug addict once and...". I came to realize what women do to survive and feed the kids. It's a side of the trade you don't see brought forth from the cheerleaders or the abolitiionists.
 
It seems I only date SW's as well...somewhat successfully. In my "Introducing a friend to the hobby" thread, my buddy and I spoke about how open and non judgmental most SW's are about sex and life in general. When I openly talk about sex, desires, kinks with civilians, I get THAT look. I don't with SW's.

It does seem that a prerequisite of being an escort/companion or sexworker, is having an open mind concerning sex,:SayWhat?::wink2: yet there are some within the industry who do judge. However overall, most within it, will, I'd expect, be more understanding towards a persons sexual needs and differences. It is somewhat funny that such a natural act (sex) can cause so much drama within our lives and relationships. Many civies fail to realize that people, men and women, can have sex and not become emotionally attached to the person they're having it with.That it is a physical act, much like working out, with another, or other activities that require coupling. Although, I'm sure many would disagree with this comparison.
@Warlock, ptsd, I'd suspect, is more common within this industry than most realize, yet expressing oneself when feeling the ramifications of it obviously isn't tolerated, especially on review boards. Since it seems if opinions of negativity are expressed about male clients or men in general, one is then reputed to be a man hater or simply an angry person, lol. Your S.O. is lucky, and I say that genuinely, not many people, in or out of this industry, are intuitive or understanding enough to know when someone needs comforting and a listening ear, and not someone who'll push back or fight.
 
@Warlock, ptsd, I'd suspect, is more common within this industry than most realize, yet expressing oneself when feeling the ramifications of it obviously isn't tolerated, especially on review boards. Since it seems if opinions of negativity are expressed about male clients or men in general, one is then reputed to be a man hater or simply an angry person, lol. Your S.O. is lucky, and I say that genuinely, not many people, in or out of this industry, are intuitive or understanding enough to know when someone needs comforting and a listening ear, and not someone who'll push back or fight.

The highest cost of this industry is the emotional cost. I have always taken offense to what I refer to as the cheerleaders of the industry. The ones who highlight the positives but try to mask over the negatives. It doesn't help the industry because the average male likely doesn't understand the reality of the industry and it gives him a false perception of things. I've seen it; night terrors, anxiety, agoraphobia, sudden bursts of rage. I guess working in technology for so long has made me extremely patient. I think the women don't necessarily heal but they learn to cope.

There is nothing more refreshing than having a partner who isn't going to wig out on your sexual past and one that can differentiate between sex and love. It's amazing how the lack of jealous & suspicion about sex makes for a better relationship. I'm waiting for the day when a client recognizes her and calls her by her industry name. Then I can start yelling "Hey Bill, remember the time my SO made you wear a pink bra and pegged your ass ! (for all those pooners who ask what is the protocol when you see a sex worker in public)
 
Warl0ck said:
The highest cost of this industry is the emotional cost. I have always taken offense to what I refer to as the cheerleaders of the industry. The ones who highlight the positives but try to mask over the negatives. It doesn't help the industry because the average male likely doesn't understand the reality

The White Knight syndrome.

It's not always fun and games outside of the SP. Think of all the collateral damage, to yourself and others.
 
The White Knight syndrome.

It's not always fun and games outside of the SP. Think of all the collateral damage, to yourself and others.

A lot of people in BC despise me because I exposed some of the nasty sides of the industry.

I've been posting on the BC forum a bit lately and there's still a definite chill in the air over there.
 
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