Dogs and all animals thread

[cristycurves]

MONTGOMERY, AL (WSFA) -Pit bulls have developed a reputation of being vicious and violent, but experts say whether or not a dog is a threat is more about its home life and less about its breed.
“It’s important that these dogs are socialized,” Dr. Lauren Rowe said.
Rowe is a veterinarian at Montgomery’s Carriage Hills Animal Hospital. She said that pit bulls are loyal dogs and need to be taught to be social.
“That’s the same with any dog,” Rowe said.
Hotel Pit Bull was started in Prattville three years ago by a group of friends who wanted to create a safe space for the dogs.
“We noticed that there were no no-kill shelters,” Michael Brown said. “So, usually when pit bulls were being taken to shelters, they were being put down.”
The organization takes in rescued pit bulls and sets them up with foster families until they are selected for adoption.
“Adult pit bulls often have a harder time getting adopted because of their reputation,” Rowe said. “They are perceived as being more dangerous because they are stronger. So, their bites will be reported more than a bite from a smaller dog.”
Hotel Pit Bull’s vice president, Rebecca Deaver, said her years of being a certified dog trainer have taught her pit bulls’ bad reputation often comes from the fact that people buy them for social status, which is usually negative.
“People buy them to be protectors,” Deaver said. “So they try to make them tough and mean, so that’s how they end up. When you love them and nurture them, they are the sweetest and most loyal dogs. They are everything you need.”
In Hotel Pit Bull’s three years of existence, the organization has saved 150 pit bulls.

 

[cristycurves]

seven more stories of pits that saved people

https://www.care2.com/causes/these-7-rescued-pit-bulls-saved-their-owners-lives.html

 

[cristycurves]

Lilly the hero pitbull
https://lillytheheropitbull.com/

 

[cristycurves]

11 heroic pitbulls

https://iheartdogs.com/11-heroic-pit-bulls-we-love/

 

[Canada-Man]

more personal stories, more anecdotes, more nanny dog myths, complaining about media myths no new research contradicting the ones i already listed that's how pit bull lobbyists defend their dangerous dogs and then quote the internet after complaining about me quoting the internet and then ask why i won't interet with a a breed that is design to be voilent



[h=1]Pit bull attacks today[/h][h=2]Google Alert - pit bull attack[/h]

• https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa...W46Q0E&usg=AFQjCNFdsZ23nMvjCzEFN9LKBVYzZOsqKQ
  Two Pit Bulls Involved in Attack Removed from HighgatePosted on October 27, 2016 at 8:18 pmLocal 22 and Local 44 News has learned two of the three pit bulls involved in an attack in Highgate Center last Friday have been removed from their ... […]
  
  
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  Aurora police shoot, kill dog that allegedly attacked womanPosted on October 27, 2016 at 5:28 pm“I always had problems with people saying they were pit bulls, so I went to animal control and they did a physical on Angelo, and determined that he ...
  
  
  
  
  
  The Myth:
  Many people believe that puppies do not have formed traits or personalities. They are balls of clay that can be molded into any dog the owner wants them to be. Many people believe that “starting with a puppy” is the best way to ensure a safe family pet.
  The Reality:
  Dogs are born with a combination of genetically bred traits and individual personality. Often behavior can be shaped by the dogs’s experiences, both good and bad. In many cases, no amount of training and socialization can overcome certain hard-wired genetic traits. Nature is much more in control of what a dog becomes than the nurturing owner. In other words, breeding is a larger determinant of behavior than environment.
  Most dogs will not exhibit their true behaviors and personalities until they reach maturity, which is usually 1-3 years of age, depending on breed. Just because a puppy is raised with children, does not mean it will tolerate children as an adult. As the dog matures it may demonstrate that it does not possess a disposition suitable for infants and small children. Sometimes, even puppies are not safe with our toddlers or kids. Pit bulls as young as 4-6 months of age have mauled, and even killed humans.
  
  
  
  
  “THERE IS A MEDIA CONSPIRACY AGAINST PIT BULLS”
  The Myth:
  There is an assumption that the media only reports pit bull incidents and fatalities.
  The Reality:
  The media reports incidents with all breeds. As recently as December 2013, the media reported the death of an infant cause by injuries sustained from an attack by two Shiba Inus. Pit bulls are in the media more because they are the most common offenders for severe attacks on animals and humans. Since 1982, pit bulls have accounted for 67% of dog attacks resulting in bodily harm. As pit bulls have become more popular as pets, this number has begun to rise.
  The media merely reports news of an occurrence based on facts or observations given to them by witnesses and investigators. If anything, the media has a tendency to under-report the breed associated with the incident or attack due to lack of detail regarding the incident. Pit bull attacks have become so frequent in the U.S. today (one lost body part every 5.4 days and one fatality every 2 weeks) that many attacks never make it to the media. The occurrences that are reported in the news often get minimal coverage. “Man bites dog is news, dog bites man is not.”
  
  

and why would cristy defend Cesar Millian who was sued after one of his dangerous dogs attaked a nurs days after he save it from being euthanized after previously attacked another person? this is a man who would defend dangerous dogs after attacking other people and animals and try to save them from being euthanized?

A Florida nurse is suing Cesar Millan after she was viciously attacked by a pit bull that had left the Dog Whisperer's training center just six days before.
Alison Bitney was visiting a friend in California in September 2014 when the dog named Gus--which had a documented history of aggressive behavior--savagely bit her left arm, which has left her hand with no feeling or function.
Bitney filed suit in California against her friend John Vazzoler, the Dog Psychology Center in Santa Clarita, Millan and a rescuer who'd previously saved the dog from being euthanized following an attack in Katy, Texas in February 2013.


Read more: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...g-center-just-days-earlier.html#ixzz4ONfKbtIF
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[cristycurves]

[h=1]Questions about the dangerous nature of pit bulls[/h]Dear Dr. Polsky,
I am not writing you in regards to dog attack but for a general dog question. I am planning on rescuing a dog from the local shelter. The dog is listed as a “pit bull” and in my interactions has shown no aggression. I have known a few pit bull terriers and

Staffordshire Terriers that were excellent well tempered dogs. However a quick Google search brings up tons of news articles about similar seemingly well-tempered dogs losing it and maiming people. I have been doing a lot of research online about the “pit bull” breeds. I am a scientifically minded person and am finding it difficult to find any helpful information on how safe they are for having as a companion animal.
The subject seems to be very polarizing and almost every website that I have found (other than yours) either tries to paint them as terribly unstable animals not fit to be kept as pets, or as sweet, loving animals who are only victims of bad owners. The real truth I imagine lies somewhere in between. The reason that I am writing you is that as an animal behavior expert who sees tons of dog bites of varying severity can you give me any insight. In your experience are bully breeds inherently dangerous to own? As most evidence either pro or anti-pit bull breed seems to be based on anecdotal evidence or correlative statistics with little or no statistical significance. Is there any meaningful data that you can point me towards, or any personal advice that you would be willing to give?
Sincerely,
Marcus Grillot
St. Louis, Missouri

Response from Dr. Polsky
There are several important issues you have raised with regard to the nature of pit bull type dogs and I will try to briefly address them for your edification. I preface this first by saying a “pit bull” is not a breed of dog; instead, the name is only a descriptor for a dog that has the physical appearance of a Staffordshire terrier or the American pit bull terrier. Second, I agree with you wholeheartedly in that the issue about the dangerous nature of pit bull type dogs is conflictual, which leaves many owners in doubt about the potential inherent danger of these kind of dogs.
Many dog bite reports one finds online identify a pit bull as the type of dog involved in the incident, when in fact this was not the case. Accurate breed identification frequently is difficult, especially by people who do not have much familiarity with the physical appearance of different breeds. Moreover, if you regularly read news reports about dog attacks throughout the United States, you will find that 80% of the reports identify a pit bull type dog as the kind of dog responsible for the attack. One the other hand, epidemiological studies clearly show that German shepherds are probably the breed of dog that inflict most dog bites to people, but it is unusual to find a news report about a German Shepherd dog attack.
Most of dog bite fatalities in the United States involve pit bull type dogs and clearly this breed-type is markedly over-represented. In many of these cases it is reported that the dog had never shown any signs of aggression prior to the incident, and the dog “was a good family pet”. My suspicion is that this may not be accurate in many cases. I believe that the majority of these pit bull type dogs who were so-called “good family pets” probably had displayed tendencies for aggression prior to the incident in question, and the signs were ignored by the owners, or possibly not reported because of fear of criminal prosecution.
Obviously, when a well-developed, highly aroused, healthy pit bull type dog attacks a person, particularly a child or an elderly person, serious injury can result. The bite strength in pit bull type dogs combined with their tenacity make this type of dog unique. No data exists, however, about those pit bull attacks that do not result in severe injury to a person, and probably in the majority of pit bull attacks the victim is not severely injured. News reporting services tend to report the incidents that cause severe injury resulting in hospitalization for the victim.
In addition, there is the issue of gender differences. Nearly all the pit bull attacks in which the victim sustains serious injury are inflicted by adult males. Unfortunately, gender differences are usually ignored by lawmakers who promote breed-specific legislation. It is also ignored by authors of websites with strong biases against pit pulls. For example, there is one popular website authored by a lady who discloses that she was previously attacked by a pit bull, and over the course of many years this author has made it her mission to universally condemn the breed. Caution is needed about the validity of the information presented on her website, or any website that universally condemns pit bull type dogs as being inherently dangerous.

 

[cristycurves]

another of many, thousands of heroic pits

 

[Canada-Man]

more failures from Cesar Milan


LOS ANGELES, California––Will celebrity dog trainer Cesar Millan be prosecuted for allowing a French bulldog in his care to maul a pig while making the February 26, 2016 episode of National Geographic Wild’s Cesar 911 “reality” television show?

“We have assigned it to a Major Case Unit Investigator within our Department and it is moving along,” County of Los Angeles Department of Animal Care & Control Aaron Reyes told ANIMALS 24-7 on March 14, 2016. “The goal is to have it ready to hand-deliver downtown, where we will arrange for a sit-down with the District Attorney’s Office to discuss the case.”

https://www.animals24-7.org/2016/03/15/will-cesar-millan-be-charged-for-hog-dog-rodeo/



https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/dogs-best-friend/201603/cesar-millan-crosses-the-line-again

defends a dog after mauling a pig


https://www.animals24-7.org/2016/03/10/what-on-earth-was-cesar-millan-thinking/

i found more on the pit bull lawsuit


Gus the pit bull

Reported Brandy Arnold of Dogington Post on February 6, 2015, “A critical care nurse from Florida is suing Millan after a dog that was trained at, and released from, his Dog Psychology Center attacked and permanently disfigured her. Alison Bitney was allegedly attacked by Gus the dog [a pit bull] just six days after he was released from the Center. Claiming she suffered ‘disfiguring open wounds, deep muscle and tendon lacerations’ and bone fractures from the September 23, 2014 attack, Bitney is seeking punitive damages from Millan and his Dog Psychology Center, claiming they negligently released a dangerous dog back to his owner.

“Bitney claims the dog had an ‘extensive history of vicious and unprovoked attacks on individuals and animals,’ and that in 2013 the dog was impounded in Texas,” after attacking trainer Amber Rickles.

Rickles was on May 18, 2015 awarded $1.3 million in damages for the Texas attack, suffered after she boarded the dog for pit bull rescuer Jennifer Romano.

Never had control

Responded Dog Psychology Center vice president Jen Woodward to the Bitney lawsuit, “Cesar Millan did not have any contact with Gus during his time at the Dog Psychology Center, nor was he asked to directly train Gus. Gus was removed from the DPC against the strong advice and objection of his trainer, before his rehabilitation was completed. Because the DPC is not the legal owner of Gus, we were unable to prevent the premature removal by his owner. After the dog bite incident, the owner returned Gus to the DPC and we followed dog bite protocol placing Gus in quarantine.”

In other words, Millan’s defense in the Bitney case is that he never had control of the dog. Viewers of the February 26, 2015 Cesar 911 episode will likely have no difficulty believing it.





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If a dog fighter did this, and they do, they would be rightfully accused of animal cruelty.

Millan is no better. This is cruelty to animals and accomplishes nothing whatsoever but hurting and terrifying other animals.

But at this point, who even takes Millan seriously?

He’s had dogs die under his watch, he’s taken dogs in and claimed they were “rehabbed” and then had them attacking people, he’s been sued by clients so many times for so many problems and failures.

When does the public finally come to the conclusion that they’ve been played?

Of course the media such as NatGeo that profits also from this madness always seems to find a way to fail to disclose these issues and the public often remains ignorant of the truth.

But at this point, this man has such a cloud hanging over him, it’s appalling.

when

 

[cristycurves]

[h=1]The Tragedy of America’s Dog[/h]
(Photo: dogboxstudio/Shutterstock)[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]In decades past, the American pit bull was a canine icon. Nicknamed “America’s dog,” and favored for its remarkable loyalty and affability, images of the breed were everywhere. A pit bull named Sergeant Stubby won 13 decorations for his service in the trenches of the First World War. Nipper, the dog from the classic RCA Victor advertisements, was a pit bull. So was Pete the Pup, canine companion to The Little Rascals. Their affinity and gentleness toward children was so widely known and appreciated it inspired a second nickname: “the nanny dog.”[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]That perception profoundly changed in the 1980s. Dogfighting enjoyed a major resurgence in America in that decade, says John Goodwin, director of animal cruelty policy at the Humane Society of the United States. “In that time there were people who took an interest in romanticizing the horrors of dogfighting … living through the accomplishments of the dog.”[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]The pit bull’s trademark loyalty combined with its muscular physique made it a prime candidate for exploitation. The breed quickly came to represent aggression and a perverse idea of machismo, thus becoming the preferred guard dog cum status symbol for drug dealers and gangsters.[/COLOR]
[h=4]The pit bull problem isn’t really a pit bull problem. It’s a human problem — like most “animal problems” upon closer inspection.[/h][COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]Popularity for the breed in low-income, urban areas exploded. Consequently, there were (and still are) a large number of un-spayed and un-neutered pit bulls living in extremely close proximity to one another. It was the perfect recipe for an epic puppy-boom. According to Mid-American Bully Breed Rescue, a non-profit that takes pit bull breeds out of high-kill animal shelters around the Midwest, there are approximately five millionregistered pit bulls in the United States today: a combination of breeds which includes Staffordshire bull terriers, American pit bull terriers, American Staffordshire terriers, or any mix thereof. This figure does not include the substantial number of pit bulls circulating the shelter system and living on the streets.The ASPCA reports that 35 percent of American shelters receive at least one pit bull a day. And in Detroit, where the stray problem borders on epidemical, pit bulls and pit mixes compose 90 percent of the homeless dog population.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]Where pit bulls were once ubiquitous in American pop culture, they are now ubiquitous in actuality. And because the overpopulation centers predominantly on low-income areas, the pit bull is arguably one of the least-responsibly cared for breeds in the country.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]THE RESULT IS A documented number of pit bull attacks that, upon superficial inspection, appears quite sizable. MABBR reports that, between 1965and 2001, there have been 60 lethal dog-attacks in the United States involving a pit bull. Compared to most breeds, that figure is indeed quite high. There were only 14 lethal attacks involving Dobermans, for instance. But taking into account the overall populations of each breed measured, the rate of aggression among pit bulls is comparatively quite normal. Even low. During that 36-year period, only 0.0012 percent of the estimated pit bull population was involved in a fatal attack. Compare that to the purebred Chow Chow, which has a fatal-attack rate of 0.005 percent, and consistently ranks as the least child-friendly dog breed on the market. Why don’t media reports of attacks involving Chows eclipse those involving pit bulls? Because there are only 240,000 registered Chow Chows currently residing in the United States. And frankly, the broad-skulled, wide-mouthed pit bull makes for a more convincing monster than the comically puffy Chow.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]Also worth noting is the pit’s comparatively large and potentially intimidating physiology. “I don’t think pits bite more than other breeds,” says Dr. Sandi Sawchuk, a small-animal veterinarian and clinical instructor at the University of Wisconsin Veterinary Medical Teaching Center in Madison. “It’s just that when they do, they cause more damage. If someone did the same research on Chihuahuas, they would probably find that there are more bites, but they’re less reported due to insignificant damage.”[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)] carried out by veterinary researchers at the University of Pennsylvania confirms as much. Dr. James Serpell and his colleagues found that smaller breeds, such as Chihuahuas, Dachshunds, and Jack Russell terriers, generally exhibit higher tendencies for indiscriminate aggression (toward humans and other dogs). They also found that breeds often vilified in the media as being “inherently aggressive,” such as pit bulls and Akitas, are generally more aggressive toward other dogs, but don’t necessarily exhibit abnormally high aggression toward humans.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]This widespread mischaracterization of pit bulls, coupled with the understandably strong emotions of bite victims and their loved ones, has resulted in a number of local ordinances categorized as “breed-specific legislation.” BSL is the banning or restricting of ownership of certain breeds deemed especially dangerous or unpredictable. And it almost always targets pits.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]As a strategy for decreasing dog attacks, BSL has been largely debunked. The Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association released a in September of 2000, republished by the CDC, which read, “Breed-specific legislation does not address the fact that a dog of any breed can become dangerous when bred or trained to be aggressive. … An alternative to breed-specific legislation is to regulate individual dogs and owners on the basis of their behavior.” The National Canine Research Council claims, “There is no scientific evidence that one kind of dog is more likely than any other to injure a human being. In fact, there is evidence to the contrary.” They point to a by animal behaviorists at the University of Veterinary Medicine in Hanover, Germany. It compares the general temperament of golden retrievers (frequently cited as a behaviorally ideal breed) to that of breeds typically targeted by BSL (read: pit bulls). It concludes: “No significant difference was found.”[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]“BSL is not the panacea that communities hope it will be,” says KC Theisen, director of pet care issues at HSUS. “It fails to address the root causes of dog bites: spay-neutering, whether a dog is chained up or properly contained.”[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]In 1989, Denver was one of the first major metropolitan areas to enact BSL specifically banning the ownership of pit bulls. The NCRC that, following the law’s passage, Denver County hospital workers indeed saw a decrease in admitted injuries caused by the breed. Yet, to this day, as the law still stands, Denver “continues to have significantly higher dog bite-related hospitalization rates than other counties.”[/COLOR]

[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]Further problematic is BSL’s dependence on sight identification. Dogs that simply “look” like a pit bull can be detained or euthanized based on little more than a law enforcement officer’s perception of “pit bullishness.” A 2012article in JAVMA indicated that a heretofore unprecedented 44 percent of American dogs are of mixed-breed ancestry, and there are few surefire ways of determining exact pedigree, even with advanced DNA testing techniques. “The discrepancy between breed identifications based on opinion and DNA analysis, as well as concerns about the reliability of data collected based on media reports, draws into question the validity and enforcement of public and private policies pertaining to dog breeds,” writes Dr. Victoria Lea Voith, a professor of animal behavior at Western University of Health Sciences’ College of Veterinary Medicine.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]Evidently, the pit bull problem isn’t really a pit bull problem. It’s a human problem — like most “animal problems” upon closer inspection. And BSL is a cop-out. It shifts culpability from the truly responsible parties — irresponsible owners — and unfairly manipulates the image of an already exploited breed. The Dodo’s Jenny Kutnerreports that 93 percent of sheltered pit bulls are euthanized before being put up for adoption. These dogs, which experts have proven to be essentially no different than any other breed, are in dire need of caring, stable homes. BSL stands in the way of that.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]THANKFULLY, IT APPEARS THE tide against pit bulls may be turning. Seventeen states now prohibit BSL in any form. Six more (Maryland, Vermont, South Dakota, Missouri, Utah, and Washington) may be heading in the same direction. Even the White House has come out in opposition to BSL. An to an anti-BSL petition posted to WhiteHouse.gov reads:[/COLOR]

We don’t support breed-specific legislation — research shows that bans on certain types of dogs are largely ineffective and often a waste of public resources…. As an alternative to breed-specific policies, the CDC recommends a community approach to prevent dog bites. And ultimately, we think it’s a much more promising way to build stronger communities of pets and pet owners.​

[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]The Obamas have it right: the solution to curtailing dog attacks, and simultaneously controlling the pit bull population, is a combination of community and owner education. Spreading awareness about the importance and wide accessibility of spaying and neutering is especially necessary. (The ASPCA offers special, low-cost surgical packages at facilities across the country.)[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]Besides the surgery’s obvious necessity to population control, it can actually have a distinct effect on the disposition of individual dogs. According to the American Humane Association, 94 percent of reported pit bull attacks involve an un-neutered male canine. It’s simple biology. High testosterone levels in mammals produce heightened aggression (evidence: bar fights, the NHL). Fix your pit bull, and the benefits are dual: decreased aggression in individual dogs, and a smaller, healthier overall population. Other benefits? An eliminated risk of testicular cancer (duh), less territorial “urine-marking,” and, ahem, a decreased libido. (No more “inappropriate mounting.”)[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]At this point, I should probably admit some journalistic bias. My family rescued a dog we believe to be a pit bull, at least partially, in the spring of 2012. No doubt, in the eyes of BSL proponents, this disqualifies me from writing anything of substance on the condition and temperament of the breed — but I maintain what the facts support: Pit bulls are no different than any other dog. Other than having the deck stacked overwhelmingly against them.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8)]In any case, does this look like the face of a monster?[/COLOR]

 

[cristycurves]

Lol, still no reply to my black man comment, hmmmmmm Canada man?

 

[Canada-Man]

how many times are you going to repeat that nanny dog myth.



https://thetruthaboutpitbulls.blogspot.ca/2010/08/nanny-dog-myth-revealed.html



The Nanny Dog Myth was invented by the president of the Staffordshire Bull Terrier Club, Lillian Rant, around 1970

 

[Canada-Man]

Lol, still no reply to my black man comment, hmmmmmm Canada man?

there is no comparison between pit bulls and black men.

 

[User-E]

I think we can all agree that some people think pit bulls are are cuddly little bunnies and others see the as inbreed beasts that are unpredictable and dangerous.

Seems we can also agree that no mater which side of the issue you sit......You are happy where you are.
Heck we can even agree that some folks don't view this as an issue worth the time of day, in the grand scheme of things.

So how bout we let the hackles down and all head out for a beer?

:good:

 

[Madman]

Papa, if I don't get a coffee I'm going to chomp on your arse like a pit, Sheppard and pincer all rolled into one!

 

[papasmerf]

This is like watching a tennis match being played in the Mariana Trench.

Lots of effort but little ball movement.

 

[papasmerf]

Papa, if I don't get a coffee I'm going to chomp on your arse like a pit, Sheppard and pincer all rolled into one!

Stop sniffing my crotch.

 

[cristycurves]

there is no comparison between pit bulls and black men.

you are right pits are dogs and black men are humans * but * discrimination IS DISCRIMINATION and if we are going to follow statistics and news reports, believe the online data, as you are wanting, then we have a right to fear black men, the same way we "should" fear, so some would like, the pitbull.

First, we find that during the 2012/2013 period, blacks committed an average of 560,600 violent crimes against whites, whereas whites committed only 99,403 such crimes against blacks. This means blacks were the attackers in 84.9 percent of the violent crimes involving blacks and whites.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_stereotype_of_African_Americans

Facts?

Funny how when someone makes claims that you believe they are "factual" when they don't support your claims, they are "propaganda"" lol. The nanny dog is a title which I'll use because I do believe they are good with kids, that's what I've seen and experienced as has my sister who's worked with thousands of the dogs, over a 20+ year span and who also is a mother and a VERY conservative dog person. On her opinion and experience alone I'd give the breed creedence, but thankfully there are thousands of others with more experience, more knowledge that too are supportive of the dogs It's too bad they weren't more supportive of the escort community , or they'd post here.

 

[Canada-Man]

again there is no comparison. Pit Bulls were bread SPECIFICALLY to be violent and dangerous. You failed to notice that blacks in the U.S have higher rates of single motherhood which are results of the American welfare system where men are not allowed to be in the homes with their children and mother. children of all races that have no fathers in the home are more likley to commit crimes, go to jail, join in gangs, etc

 

[peace]

This is like watching a tennis match being played in the Mariana Trench.

Lots of effort but little ball movement.

Oh a tennis match! Who is winning?

 

[peace]

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=...DXA3eXgUiLCvWzVLMcoLBQ&bvm=bv.136811127,d.amc