In my day when I was in the dating game, women who always expected to be treated to expensive gifts, fancy dinners and extravagant entertainment were branded high maintenance and my group of peers avoided them entirely. Any relationship with any chance of lasting must be a give and take. I'm aware many of you here place sex very high in the scheme of things but if it's all about sex and money your relationship will be very short lived.
Actually, Baz, the real problem is when it's all about sex without realizing the relationship between sex and money.
So you see ....
Aw fuck, I'm too tired to explain this to you. Just gonna hit the sack, wake up well rested and look for oldguyser's explanation.
I always enjoy reading what he has to say and usually learn something too.***
*** Of course, I am not a troll, warlock or judgmental person.
I wasn't going to respond to Baz...don't want him thinking I'm out to get him!...but since Art asked so nicely...
Baz, the problem with your statement is the part about "I'm aware many of you here place sex very high in the scheme of things but if it's all about sex and money your relationship will be very short lived." Sex, sir, is why most people here see SPs and MPs. It's not that they want to date or have a relationship with them. The guys here pay for sex, or some variation on it, so that they don't have to have a relationship. I agree with you that anyone who dates or marries simply for sex is dooming themselves to an unhappy and failed relationship, but sex is also part of most happy and sustained relationships. When it's not, even though the partners may be happy with every other aspect of their lives, they will seek sex somewhere else, hopefully without commitment and obligation. Hence the very existence of this business and this board.
You again seem to be judging the people here who look for sex with payment...these fine people are not looking for long-term relationships, just sex. Are they bad people for doing that? In your mind, obviously they are, since that goes against the moral high-ground you are staking out for yourself and judging others against. Some of us look at uptight judgmental people (no specific people in mind) and consider them the problem, since they are fundamentally unhappy, unable to verbalize or act on their needs and desires, and hence end up condemning others who do exactly what they themselves want to do. It's happened for thousands of years and will continue to happen.
To return to the subject of this thread (gasp!), while some people do visit the ladies in this business simply for sex, sometimes emotions do get involved. Not because of sex, although that can play a part, but because the people in this business can be genuinely wonderful people and there can exist a mutual attraction which leads to more than the pay-for-sex component. Some hobbyists and some providers try very hard to avoid that sort of commitment, some are more open to it. It happens. Not often, perhaps, but it does happen.
As for your statement "women who always expected to be treated to expensive gifts, fancy dinners and extravagant entertainment were branded high maintenance and my group of peers avoided them entirely", my experience has been that very, very few women are that obnoxious and demanding. Usually, that's an excuse to avoid even trying with those women, because you THINK they will be too expensive, but what you are really saying to yourself is they are out of your league. You might be surprised how many women you brand as "high maintenance" are exactly the opposite. Given the choice, of course they will take the fancy restaurant over the McDonalds (sometimes), but they don't EXPECT it every time. Human nature. Something you obviously wrestle with on a regular basis.
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