Hear that.

[Getmore]

Today I swung my front door wide open and placed my Marlin .30-.30 right in the doorway. I gave it 5 shells, and noticing that it had no legs, even placed it in my wheelchair to help it get around. I then left it alone and went about my business. While I was gone, the mailman delivered my mail, the neighbor boy across the street mowed the yard, a girl walked her dog down the street, and quite a few cars stopped at the stop sign right in front of our house.

After about an hour, I checked on the gun. It was still sitting there in the wheelchair, right where I had left it. It hadn't rolled itself outside. It certainly hadn't killed anyone, even with the numerous opportunities it had been presented to do so. In fact, it hadn't even loaded itself. Well you can imagine my surprise,with all the media hype about how dangerous guns are and how they kill people. Either the media is wrong, and it's the misuse of guns by PEOPLE that kills people, or I'm in possession of the laziest gun in the world.

Alright, well I'm off to check on my spoons. I hear they're making people fat

Rev. Michael L. Kumm

 

[STU700]

Just a lazy gun.

 

[oldguyzer]

The media kills people. But they cover it up by blaming guns. Or people. Or people with guns. Or guns who want people.

 

[BEER]

The media kills people. But they cover it up by blaming guns. Or people. Or people with guns. Or guns who want people.

Or people kill people.

 

[Willy]

Hmmmmmm

 

[Baz]

If people have less access to guns and they enforce the rules very harshly on crimes committed with guns it would save lives.

 

[Mm69]

If people have less access to guns and they enforce the rules very harshly on crimes committed with guns it would save lives.

Law abiding citizens don't commit crimes with guns. CRIMINALS with guns commit crimes. And CRIMINALS don't give a shit if the law says they can't have guns, because after all......theyre CRIMINALs.
I'm fed up with people who don't have, have never used or don't care for firearms telling me that me having one is wrong or I'm suddenly going to use it on someone.
Punish the law breakers and leave the law abiding citizens the fuck alone.

 

[papasmerf]

If people have less access to guns and they enforce the rules very harshly on crimes committed with guns it would save lives.

if you feel guns are not for you do not get.

However what has led you to believe you think for all??
or is that at all?

 

[Shiek]

Law abiding citizens don't commit crimes with guns. CRIMINALS with guns commit crimes. And CRIMINALS don't give a shit if the law says they can't have guns, because after all......theyre CRIMINALs.
I'm fed up with people who don't have, have never used or don't care for firearms telling me that me having one is wrong or I'm suddenly going to use it on someone.
Punish the law breakers and leave the law abiding citizens the fuck alone.

This apparently falls on deaf ears all the time.... did you see the letter I posted that was sent to John Evers mm69?

https://www.hubgfe.com/community/sh...he-USA-need-to-be-changed&p=391982#post391982

 

[Transient]

Law abiding citizens don't commit crime with guns...until they do, then they are criminals, so who came first? This is like the chicken and the egg thing!

 

[Mm69]

This apparently falls on deaf ears all the time.... did you see the letter I posted that was sent to John Evers mm69?

https://www.hubgfe.com/community/sh...he-USA-need-to-be-changed&p=391982#post391982

yeah..... disgusting... telling the guy he should be ashamed and that his daughter is being harmed and shit. Unfortunately theres too many of these people. Did you read about that woman who wants the food product "chicken grenades" pulled 'cause she finds the name offensive. Like for F sake.... get a life and grow a sense of humor.

 

[Mm69]

Law abiding citizens don't commit crime with guns...until they do, then they are criminals, so who came first? This is like the chicken and the egg thing!

WHEN they do, throw them in jail for a long long time.

 

[Shiek]

Not quite, criminals have always been around with and without guns. You cant punish the majority for the actions of a minority Transient.


If a firearm is used in the commission of a crime, then yes lock em up and throw away the key. That's the deterrent for law abiding citizens.

 

[Transient]

Not quite, criminals have always been around with and without guns. You cant punish the majority for the actions of a minority Transient.

If a firearm is used in the commission of a crime, then yes lock em up and throw away the key. That's the deterrent for law abiding citizens.

I still don't follow the claim that the law abiding citizens are being "punished". Who is the majority that is being "punished" and how is the punishment enacted?
Law abiding citizens follow the law.

Should murder with a gun vs. murder with a knife be judged differently? I don't think so. Is Armed robbery with a gun more severe than armed robbery with a knife...nope, the crime is the same to me.

Most laws are created due to the actions of a few.

 

[papasmerf]

I still don't follow the claim that the law abiding citizens are being "punished". Who is the majority that is being "punished" and how is the punishment enacted?
Law abiding citizens follow the law.

Should murder with a gun vs. murder with a knife be judged differently? I don't think so. Is Armed robbery with a gun more severe than armed robbery with a knife...nope, the crime is the same to me.

Most laws are created due to the actions of a few.

First enforce the existing laws then is necessary consider new ones.

But a society that does not in fully enforce existing law to use it as an excuse to create new ones is doomed.

 

[oldguyzer]

Law abiding citizens don't commit crimes with guns. CRIMINALS with guns commit crimes. And CRIMINALS don't give a shit if the law says they can't have guns, because after all......theyre CRIMINALs.
I'm fed up with people who don't have, have never used or don't care for firearms telling me that me having one is wrong or I'm suddenly going to use it on someone.
Punish the law breakers and leave the law abiding citizens the fuck alone.

Guns are outlawed in the UK. Criminals don't use them, cops don't carry them. Murder rate using guns, per capita, is much lower than the US, which has more guns per capita than any other country in the world. Do you supp9ose there's a connection?

 

[papasmerf]

Guns are outlawed in the UK. Criminals don't use them, cops don't carry them. Murder rate using guns, per capita, is much lower than the US, which has more guns per capita than any other country in the world. Do you supp9ose there's a connection?

Come on that is like saying there are no roads in the remote jungle of South America and as a result seldom is anyone charged with DWI.

 

[oldguyzer]

Come on that is like saying there are no roads in the remote jungle of South America and as a result seldom is anyone charged with DWI.

Or the rate of vehicular collisions resulting in pedestrian manslaughter is lower because there are no roads? Nah....silly concept....

 

[Madman]

How can anyone deny that the USA has a problem with guns? Guns are way too easy to access and I'm sorry but you gun folks really have blinders on.

I don't hear Canadians screaming for change to our gun laws here because I feel they are pretty good and I too would like to see stiffer punishment for a gun crime or any violent crime.

 

[Oilcan]

California Begins Gun Confiscation

Wearing bulletproof vests and carrying 40-caliber Glock pistols, nine California Justice Department agents assembled outside a ranch-style house in a suburb east of Los Angeles. They were looking for a gun owner who’d recently spent two days in a mental hospital.
Enlarge image California Raiders Seize Guns as Owners Lose Right to Bear Arms

Special Agent Supervisor John Marsh who coordinates the operations around California, said: “We’re not contacting anybody who can legally own a gun. The only people we’re contacting are people who are prohibited from owning guns.” Photographer: Patrick T. Fallon/Bloomberg
Enlarge image California Raiders Seize Guns as Owners Lose Right to Bear Arms

Weapons and ammunition seized from the home of Lynette and David Philllips by agents with the California Department of Justice police in Upland, California. Photographer: Patrick T. Fallon/Bloomberg
Enlarge image Lynette and David Phillips

Lynette Phillips, 48, and her husband, David Phillips, 51, sit in their home in Upland, California on March 5, 2013. Lynette, a nurse, had to surrender three guns after spending two days in a mental hospital in December. Photographer: Patrick T. Fallon/Bloomberg
Enlarge image California Raiders Seize Guns as Owners Lose Right to Bear Arms

Weapons with ammunition seized from the home of Lynette and David Phillips by agents with the California Department of Justice police in Upland, California. Photographer: Patrick T. Fallon/Bloomberg
Enlarge image California Raiders Seize Guns as Owners Lose Right to Bear Arms

California Department of Justice police agents walk towards a house near Ontario, California on March 5, 2013. Photographer: Patrick T. Fallon/Bloomberg
Enlarge image Special Agent Supervisor John Marsh

Special Agent Supervisor John Marsh with the California Department of Justice drives out to seize illegal firearms near Ontario, California on March 5, 2013. Photographer: Patrick T. Fallon/Bloomberg

They knocked on the door and asked to come in. About 45 minutes later, they came away peacefully with three firearms.

California is the only state that tracks and disarms people with legally registered guns who have lost the right to own them, according to Attorney General Kamala Harris. Almost 20,000 gun owners in the state are prohibited from possessing firearms, including convicted felons, those under a domestic violence restraining order or deemed mentally unstable.

“What do we do about the guns that are already in the hands of persons who, by law, are considered too dangerous to possess them?” Harris said in a letter to Vice President Joe Biden after a Connecticut school shooting in December left 26 dead. She recommended that Biden, heading a White House review of gun policy, consider California as a national model.

As many as 200,000 people nationwide may no longer be qualified to own firearms, according to Garen Wintemute, director of the Violence Prevention Research Program at the University of California, Davis. Other states may lack confiscation programs because they don’t track purchases as closely as California, which requires most weapons sales go through a licensed dealer and be reported.

“Very, very few states have an archive of firearm owners like we have,” said Wintemute, who helped set up the program.​

California Seizes Guns as Owners Lose Right to Keep Arms - Bloomberg

Well........it's started.

Hope you've made whatever arrangements you can make.

First the excuses will seem rational but eventually they will start dreaming up more and more excuses to seize our guns. It's hard to imagine what excuse they'll come up with to take them but the goal is to make private gun ownership a thing of the past.