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Little girl separated from mother after OC Transpo driver refuses to stop bus: witness

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OTTAWA — Passengers aboard an OC Transpo bus were outraged Wednesday when a driver refused to stop and let a mother off a bus that had left her young girl behind in the city’s west end.Jennifer Todd was aboard the route 94 bus at around 4:30 p.m. when it was travelling southbound along the transitway towards Fallowfield.

She said the doors to the bus closed once the girl, who appeared to be about six-years-old, got off at the stop at Iris Street. That separated her from the woman who looked to be her mother, as she was unable to make her way through the crowded bus to get to the exit in time.Passengers tried to get the driver to stop and let the woman off when they realized what happened a few hundred yards away from the station, said Todd.He refused.

“That scared the absolute hell out of me,” she said. “You don’t drop off a six-year-old kid and then refuse to let the mother off. To me, that’s just wrong.”She was particularly worried because the area is a fairly quiet wooded area and it would have been easy for a stranger to come along and take her away, she said.

A spokesman for the City of Ottawa, Michael FitzPatrick, said Wednesday night he had no confirmed information that matched such an incident.Chelsey Donohue, who was sitting at the front of the bus, said the driver appeared to know what the situation was but looked as though he was “annoyed” that a man had made his way to the front to ask him to stop.“Everyone on the bus, you could tell they were mad about it, because the guy could have just stopped the bus and let her off,” she said.

“The bus driver wouldn’t compromise at all. He was like ‘no. She can wait,’ pretty much.”
He then became “hostile” towards the passengers who were getting angry, she said.That part of the transitway has a paved shoulder and trees on either side.

That makes it different from other parts of the transitway, which have metal barriers to discourage people from entering the roadway on foot.
“I could understand if there was no way to safely make her way back, I could maybe appreciate it, but she could have easily made her way back,” said Todd.

“I don’t understand why he didn’t stop. At all.”
Todd used her cell phone to call the police once it became clear the woman wasn’t going to be able to get off.Const. Henri Lanctôt of Ottawa police would only say they were looking into a matter involving an OC Transpo bus and a young girl in that area immediately after the incident took place.

Police later reported, at around 6:30 p.m., they had located the girl safe and sound.
The woman eventually disembarked a number of minutes later at the next stop at Baseline Road.Todd said she had yet to file a complaint with OC Transpo because the incident took place after business hours, but said she planned to do so Thursday.
 
Holy crap .... I would have lost my shit and got off the bus one way or another ... perhaps with a lil blood on me
 
well, with all stories there are two sides......which we won't ever hear....

1) wtf is a woman doing onboard a bus with a 6 yr old NOT directly by her side AND holding her hand.....shame on you mom.
2) I like it how people say they "know" what someone does or does not "know". One thing that might have happened is everyone was screaming stop the bus stop the bus and the bus driver, seeing nothing wrong in his mirrors, didn't just abide by someone yelling at him
3) If this story is, in fact, true, maybe the bus driver couldn't stop the bus because of rules or regs preventing him from stopping and allowing passengers to disembark between stops.....further to that, if he was in the second lane it might have been totally unsafe for him to do so.
4) Since the derelict mom got off at the next stop, and if they are set up like those in toronto, she could walk or run back to the previous one in under 2 minutes....I don't know of any bus route in toronto where you can't actually see the previous or next stop.....
 
well, with all stories there are two sides......which we won't ever hear....

1) wtf is a woman doing onboard a bus with a 6 yr old NOT directly by her side AND holding her hand.....shame on you mom.
2) I like it how people say they "know" what someone does or does not "know". One thing that might have happened is everyone was screaming stop the bus stop the bus and the bus driver, seeing nothing wrong in his mirrors, didn't just abide by someone yelling at him
3) If this story is, in fact, true, maybe the bus driver couldn't stop the bus because of rules or regs preventing him from stopping and allowing passengers to disembark between stops.....further to that, if he was in the second lane it might have been totally unsafe for him to do so.
4) Since the derelict mom got off at the next stop, and if they are set up like those in toronto, she could walk or run back to the previous one in under 2 minutes....I don't know of any bus route in toronto where you can't actually see the previous or next stop.....

Well then how do you explain the cops finding the girl 2 hours later?. What do you thing was going through the mother's head for 2 hours?.
 
OC transpo is infamous for having asshole drivers.
 
Well then how do you explain the cops finding the girl 2 hours later?. What do you thing was going through the mother's head for 2 hours?.

they're not very good at finding 6 yr olds? lol......

The story says the mother got off a few minutes later....I mean really the story makes it sound like the guy drove around for an hour with people screaming at him yet if she got off a FEW minutes later, it couldn't have been that long...

As for suing the transit company, the only thing that will do is make rates go up.....

All i'm saying is the story, like all, isn't so cut and dried......
 
It doesn't seem clear if the girl was actually missing for two hours, or it was two hours later that they reported she was found.

It does seem clear that the driver could have stopped, with there being a paved shoulder at that point of the road. I can't begin to fathom why he didn't, it seems the safety of a 6yo girl should supercede any rules the bus company might have about stopping between official bus stops.

Tboy I saw your point about the mom not having the girl right with her on the bus. I also know from personal experience that things like this can happen very quickly and unexpectedly...one of the most horrifying moments of my life was when my 5yo son walked off a hotel elevator with a group of strangers, and before I could stop it the doors were closed and the elevator was moving. We were very lucky that the people were nice and waited with him until I got back there, and I hope the girl in this story was equally fortunate.

And as for it only being a few minutes before the mom got off the bus, it doesn't take a minute for a child to be taken.

I think whether a lawsuit is justified would depend on what actually happened to the girl while she was missing, what was the degree of actual harm done. If she was scared and upset by the incident, no. If some perv had his way with her, hell yes.

Either way I do think the driver should be let go, he demonstrated an astounding disregard for the safety of a passenger.
 
Yeah, OC Transpo is known to be dicks. From douchebag drivers to an arrogant head of union, it's the worst. A few month ago, a driver refused to let a woman on because she smelled of smoke. They've had settlement after settlement in the last few years.

As for the girl being separated from the mom, it's very easy to happen in a crowded bus. Those automated back doors they have are horrible, and close unpredictably. And bus stops in Ottawa can be very far apart if you've ever taken transit there.
 
It's a strange story but if he knew the 6 year old was left alone he should've stopped. The problem could also have been policy. We don't know if a driver has been possibly disciplined for the same action. It's hard to judge without know the entire story but like most I do not like to see a six year old child stranded along an isolated area.
 
It's a strange story but if he knew the 6 year old was left alone he should've stopped. The problem could also have been policy. We don't know if a driver has been possibly disciplined for the same action. It's hard to judge without know the entire story but like most I do not like to see a six year old child stranded along an isolated area.

It might well have been policy. Policy be dammed sometimes. I for one would take the discipline.
 
It's a strange story but if he knew the 6 year old was left alone he should've stopped. The problem could also have been policy. We don't know if a driver has been possibly disciplined for the same action. It's hard to judge without know the entire story but like most I do not like to see a six year old child stranded along an isolated area.

yes, the key word there is if he "knew"......again, I hate it when people tell me what I do or don't know.......

As for kids (sg's and the one in question) going off on their own, well, I tell you, when I was 6? if I went off on my own it'd be the first, and last time.....not to say I was a poodle, but if I did wander off, I better have stayed gone because they would have beat the tar outta me when they caught up to me.

Further to this, I remember if we went anywhere, and she told me to sit there, I wouldn't move if the bus was on fire......

One more thing, just suppose the driver DID slam on the brakes and pull over when people started yelling......can't you see the headlines then? "OC bus driver stops suddenly and injures 27 passngers....numerous lawsuits were filed today.....".....

ALso, and I don't know the rules regarding buses, but with streetcars and subways, if the driver deviates from the rules, since those vehicles are included with trains, it is a very VERY serious offence.....(Like that subway driver texting).......
 
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