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Auggie said:
I mean using viagra for recreation purposes, when you have no trouble getting it up but want to go for an extended period as a sign of your virility. Some guys do that.

For those who need it, I think it's great.


A lot of guys, who do this as a hobby, do this. I am surprised by someone (train) who hasn't considered this at all? How to explain all of the for sale posts or Wanted postings by guys looking for viagra, cialis, or the clones of those drugs. If there was a medical condition, they would have no trouble getting a doctor to prescribe it. :writing:
 
Repoman said:
I do not need to use it but I will admit I do pop one if

1) new lady friend and I want my member at his full potential as to guarantee a second date and
2) if I see an escort, my dime I want my money's worth

Sorry Reverse but then again you would never know if I show up on the blue little steroid now would you?:biggrin:


In the case of #2, it is abusive use of the drug, and also a case of having an unwilling partner in doing that. i doubt you tell her you are trying to get your money's worth, so it is quite disturbing you would think this is OK. Even as a joke, really. Why not do a couple lines of coke? Same results. :sad:
 
shadowsun said:
In the case of #2, it is abusive use of the drug, and also a case of having an unwilling partner in doing that. i doubt you tell her you are trying to get your money's worth, so it is quite disturbing you would think this is OK. Even as a joke, really. Why not do a couple lines of coke? Same results. :sad:

Actually, do you have any scientific proof of number 2?

Why ISN"T it ok for a guy to want to get his money's worth while paying for sex? If it is ok for an sp to get a guy off as quickly as possible so she doesn't have to do her job for as long as the customer wants, then it is ok for a guy to do what he deems necessary to make sure he enjoys the full hour of the sp's time......

As for "unwilling", if she is unwilling to have sex with a guy, whether he is on v or not, then she shouldn't be in the business....

As for bliss playing the martyr again: no one ever told you you can't defend yourself...but...once again, if you dish it out, you have to be prepared to take it.

Bliss saying I take dick pills is like trying to insult me by calling me a white male....As for getting them from my doctor, she gives me all I need for FREE.....If you wish to know, I take them for 2 reasons: 1) I have trouble having sex with strangers and 2) I have trouble maintaining an erection while using a condom. Had this problem with I was 20 and still have it when I'm 50.

I guess that other saying is 100% accurate. You know the one, the one that says "ignorance is bliss" lol.....
 
shadowsun said:
In the case of #2, it is abusive use of the drug, and also a case of having an unwilling partner in doing that. i doubt you tell her you are trying to get your money's worth, so it is quite disturbing you would think this is OK. Even as a joke, really. Why not do a couple lines of coke? Same results. :sad:

Why are you just assuming the woman is unwilling? That's the part that I don't understand. I think everyone who is thinking abuse is just assuming some 35 year old in top shape popped a viagra so he can go see a sp and pump away for 55 minutes straight until the girl is raw. I 'm guessing that is pretty rare but I'm not the best person to answer that.

I wish some of the" non-crazy sp's" would give us their version of what really happens. Since I have no real experience other than with myself and what I have been told when I have discussed viagra use with a few of my regular sp's.

I'm sure a lot of guys do take it that might not absolutely need it just to give themselves a little confidence that they will be able to perform when they are nervous and getting naked with a stranger for the first time. Perhaps that is their definition of "getting their money's worth". I don't see any abuse of anyone in that scenerio which I submit is most likely to be the most common "misuse".

Sexual performance in men is a question of degrees and a mixture of physical and psychological factors. At what point do you start taking viagra? When you ability to perform is 75% of your peak which you achieved at age 20? at 50% ?

If I've heard it once I've heard it 20 times " I prefer to see men over 40 because they treat me better and they are better in bed" ( Yes yes I understand this may just be them being kind, God bless their pretty little butts)- guess what ? That's the group that probably is using viagra. Comparing viagra to cocaine doesn't make any sense to me at all. While I have never tried cocaine I'm fairly confident that the results are not the same in any rational way.

The main reason I have heard for not using viagra when you don't need it or at least not using a bigger dose than you need is that, like with many drugs, the more you use it the more your body becomes used to it and you keep having to up the dose. Beyond the recommended max you may have a blood pressure issue if you develop a heart problem. Below max dose it has to be a pretty damn safe drug given the millions of doses taken each and every day with no ill effect, most of which are being taken by old farts who aren't in the peak of health.
 
As I person of knowing all. Have it ever occurred to the SP that Viagra and Cialis has given them more business?.

The older folks wich are tamer and more respecful of women and with more cash flow can now get their goodies.
 
shadowsun said:
In the case of #2, it is abusive use of the drug, and also a case of having an unwilling partner in doing that. i doubt you tell her you are trying to get your money's worth, so it is quite disturbing you would think this is OK. Even as a joke, really. Why not do a couple lines of coke? Same results. :sad:

My ''friend'' actually provides them to her clients if interested.

At first I didn't get this at all but then she explained it to me.

She prefers older more mature men who will be able to afford to pay for her services.

She gives a full body head to toe massage for 30 minutes while the pill kicks in. I can tell you that it is RMT quality.

Then she gives you the service of your life for rest of the hour.

She purposefully prices herself above most independent SP's to attract the type of clientele she wants.

As a result she doesn't have to work much and is always energized and ready to engage shall we say.

Sounds like a good business strategy to me.

Of course Reverse wouldn't get it though
 
LickingGravity said:
Why are you just assuming the woman is unwilling? That's the part that I don't understand. I think everyone who is thinking abuse is just assuming some 35 year old in top shape popped a viagra so he can go see a sp and pump away for 55 minutes straight until the girl is raw. I 'm guessing that is pretty rare but I'm not the best person to answer that.

I wish some of the" non-crazy sp's" would give us their version of what really happens. Since I have no real experience other than with myself and what I have been told when I have discussed this with a few of my regular sp's.

I'm sure a lot of guys do take it that might not absolutely need it just to give themselves a little confidence that they will be able to perform when they are nervous and getting naked with a stranger for the first time. Perhaps that is their definition of "getting their money's worth". I don't see any abuse of anyone in that scenerio which I submit is most likely to be the most common "misuse".

Sexual performance in men is a question of degrees and a mixture of physical and psychological factors. At what point do you start taking viagra? When you ability to perform is 75% of you peak which you achieved at age 20? at 50% ?

If I've heard it once I've heard it 20 times " I prefer to see men over 40 because they treat me better and they are better in bed" ( Yes yes I understand this may just be them being kind, God bless their pretty little butts)- guess what ? That's the group that probably is using viagra. Comparing viagra to cocaine doesn't make any sense to me at all. While I have never tried cocaine I'm fairly confident that the results are not the same in any rational way.

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More excellent points by one of the smarter members on here.
 
I looked everything up....do it yourself if you want too....There is wide abuse over the drug.....
As for older men being calm will I did not add this story from the State where a grandfather taking the drug raped 5 of his granddaughters.....

It is amazing I so happy some guys can classify people however way you want too....Smarter if you agree with a certain group....etc.....I did look this up to educate myself.....Yes there is abuse, go read the research yourself......OMG....you tell me I was being 12...I do the research on it, put it on and now I am classified as What slow....Hmmmm....SO ok I know I am but so are you..:tease:

Yes one of my personalities is 12 years old......Just as I feel the ones doing all the B*t*hing are the one on viagra..........Just as you look at me the way you do, I look at you as taking the stuff....

At least there is one Man who is man enough to admit it..........Thank You....:kissed:
 
Maurice Boscorelli said:
My ''friend'' actually provides them to her clients if interested.

At first I didn't get this at all but then she explained it to me.

She prefers older more mature men who will be able to afford to pay for her services.

She gives a full body head to toe massage for 30 minutes while the pill kicks in. I can tell you that it is RMT quality.

Then she gives you the service of your life for rest of the hour.

She purposefully prices herself above most independent SP's to attract the type of clientele she wants.

As a result she doesn't have to work much and is always energized and ready to engage shall we say.

Sounds like a good business strategy to me.

Of course Reverse wouldn't get it though

Yes an I know who your friend is........And when one of those clients has a heart attack.....
I hope she has a good lawyer......:biggrin:
 
shadowsun said:
A lot of guys, who do this as a hobby, do this. I am surprised by someone (train) who hasn't considered this at all? How to explain all of the for sale posts or Wanted postings by guys looking for viagra, cialis, or the clones of those drugs. If there was a medical condition, they would have no trouble getting a doctor to prescribe it. :writing:

I totally disagree with you on this point. Both Viagra and Cialis do not make one last longer number 1, it only allows most to have a full erection and for some it helps accomplishing msog which is offered and there is nothing wrong with accepting. There is no reason an individual not go into a session being able to enjoy it to the fullest.

I have not yet tried it myself but I would be a liar if I claimed I haven't thought about it.
 
Blissful said:
I looked everything up....do it yourself if you want too....There is wide abuse over the drug.....
As for older men being calm will I did not add this story from the State where a grandfather taking the drug raped 5 of his granddaughters.....

It is amazing I so happy some guys can classify people however way you want too....Smarter if you agree with a certain group....etc.....I did look this up to educate myself.....Yes there is abuse, go read the research yourself......OMG....you tell me I was being 12...I do the research on it, put it on and now I am classified as What slow....Hmmmm....SO ok I know I am but so are you..:tease:

Yes one of my personalities is 12 years old......Just as I feel the ones doing all the B*t*hing are the one on viagra..........Just as you look at me the way you do, I look at you as taking the stuff....

At least there is one Man who is man enough to admit it..........Thank You....:kissed:

BFD, so you found some examples of people who take a drug, and do something wrong while on it. If I had the inclination or the time I could cite MILLIONS of cases where people abuse just about every substance or invention known to man. Just because "some" use it and then do something untowards while on it doesn't make it any worse or better than any other drug.

How many people turn cold medicine into meth? Hundreds if not thousands. Should we therefore ban all cold medicines?
How many people need and take prozac and how many abuse it?
How many people abuse alcohol and then commit crimes while on it?

BTW: what's your point anyways? that some people use a legally available drug?
 
tboy said:
BFD, so you found some examples of people who take a drug, and do something wrong while on it. If I had the inclination or the time I could cite MILLIONS of cases where people abuse just about every substance or invention known to man. Just because "some" use it and then do something untowards while on it doesn't make it any worse or better than any other drug.

How many people turn cold medicine into meth? Hundreds if not thousands. Should we therefore ban all cold medicines?
How many people need and take prozac and how many abuse it?
How many people abuse alcohol and then commit crimes while on it?

BTW: what's your point anyways? that some people use a legally available drug?

As You would point out to me we are talking about VIAGRA.....Look it up.....Spin it whatever way you want ..
The research is there, you email them and talk to the doctors and tell them they are wrong....that tboy said so and it so.........

The majority of men do not need viagra.....
 
GOD said:
As I person of knowing all. Have it ever occurred to the SP that Viagra and Cialis has given them more business?.

The older folks wich are tamer and more respecful of women and with more cash flow can now get their goodies.

You got it right your Highness
 
Blissful said:
As You would point out to me we are talking about VIAGRA.....Look it up.....Spin it whatever way you want ..
The research is there, you email them and talk to the doctors and tell them they are wrong....that tboy said so and it so.........

The majority of men do not need viagra.....

once again, I have NO idea wtf you're talking about. I never said anyone was right or wrong, I asked what your point was......that people abuse a legal drug? BFD......people abuse all sorts of things......
 
Blissful said:
As You would point out to me we are talking about VIAGRA.....Look it up.....Spin it whatever way you want ..
The research is there, you email them and talk to the doctors and tell them they are wrong....that tboy said so and it so.........

The majority of men do not need viagra.....

Just amasing, her logic is bulletproof. Bliss with all respect I think you're :crazy::crazy::crazy: (we're just having fun right). :anangel:
 
Blissful said:
Yes an I know who your friend is........And when one of those clients has a heart attack.....
I hope she has a good lawyer......:biggrin:

I'll call you on that one Sybil.

If you think you know who my ''friend'' is then name her.

If not then keep your suspicions to yourself.
 
Blissful said:
The majority of men do not need viagra.....

Hmmmm in 2009 sales of Viagara alone were $466 million worldwide.

And that is after it slowed down.

Now stop trolling Sybil you are not doing to well.
 
Maurice Boscorelli said:
I'll call you on that one Sybil.

If you think you know who my ''friend'' is then name her.

If not then keep your suspicions to yourself.

It not a suspicion ...I will not name her......I hope she does not leave a person she get into trouble
by themselves if the person is having issues taking viagra that she has given....
What man would take a pill from sp, just as the escort watch us with wine etc or what escort would take a pill from their client....
She has a medical degree, people lie about what drugs they are on......Let her play with these stupid peoples lives.....Yes older men.....who would have medical problems and on meds.....taking meds not given to them by an escort...Hmm...to me it sounds like greed...Why not just let them get their own doctors to give it to them.....Solves the problem and if something happens she is not on the hook.....

As I stated the majority of men do NOT need viagra...so what if there is a profit...just show they are taking it like candy and there is abuse.......even teens and 20ty somethings
 
Maurice Boscorelli said:
She doesn't know you and doesn't participate in any boards so therefore how can you know her?

Trying to save your butt....:rofl1: She must be really pissed.....B*t*h Slapping you yet...:rofl1:
We both know you screwed up big time......now I know who has be behind you .......:rofl1:

Keep calling me Sybil because you are not smart enough to call me that but she is because that is what kind of person she is....feeding her clients drugs and taking their money...Do you know it takes up to 5 to 6 hours before you can have a heart attack from viagra....long enough that she is out of there or they are out of her place.....:crazy:
 
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