The infamous Valerie Hugh is back from early retirement!

[Winslow]

Well of course. What possible reason would a service provider have for a forum that enables a community of consumers who will invariably scrutinize the quality and consistency their services, while demanding value for money? The unfortunate part is that the lack of integrity and honesty on the part of the consumers by far exceeds that of the providers.



Winslow - you simply need to hobby within your means, dude. If you can't afford her, you can't afford her. You need to accept that and not project your personal limitations on her, and you can't blame her (or twitter) for her success. If she provides an exceptional, consistently value-added, and exceedingly satisfying experience, she deserves every penny that comes her way. Being an escort for a living ain't a walk in the park, no matter what public image they project. Those that do it and do it well earn their success one session at a time, and it never gets easier, only harder as time goes by - don't kid yourself.

Where screening is concerned, also easy. If you can't abide, just step aside. Many others can and will.

Excellent responses demien. Your posts make good sense!!

 

[Madman]

The bottom line is if you wish to pay $250 or less, do not want to go through all the screening stick to massage parlors, agencies or grocery stores if you have game!:biggrin2:

 

[Analme]

When it comes to Twitter I can personally say i have nothing against the successful ladies. Bella is amazing on Twitter and is very successful along with quite a few. The ones I eliminate quickly are the lecturing Sally's of Twitter Land, the ones asking for hand outs, the one's reminding "gents" about their wishlist's and tributes.

Then we have the Twitter "gentlemen" they are the most two faced suck ups known to mankind. Regardless what the SP tweets they are the cheering squad believing they will be liked or befriended.

Anyone notice the ones with "gentlemen" in their handle are usually the most contemptuous of the batch?

 

[catherine st.claire]

Hi cat, I don't want to make enemies with you, but isn't the main purpose of review boards, to actually review Sp's??---LOL

No worries Winslow, I don't believe in adversarial dynamics. I have no enemies so feel free to say anything you like; it's not personal, ever. A little history for those that don't know. The first "review" board in the world was Lyla.com and it was built and facilitated by Joyful C. It's intent was to allow clients to have an avenue to warn others about dangerous providers to ensure client safety and give clients a sense of community that hadn't existed before. Then came the "review" boards that allowed the rating, recommending, intimidating, coercion and blackmailing of providers. The legitimate providers that "knew her place" were rewarded and those that tried to maintain boundaries were severely punished. And on rare occasion, someone warned about potentially dangerous providers. To this day, Lyla is the only public board whose mission statement includes the protection of ethical providers and is considered provider friendly. The boards were not created to "review" they were created as a venue to control and were successful in the endeavour until the adaptation of social media to sexwork. Social media allows providers to avoid the toxicity of boards and just move on with their business. Most of the SM early adopter sexworkers have absolutely no board presence because they don't need it. Boards contribute nothing to their business which is a step forward imo. None of this has anything to do with the thread topic however...

smiles, cat

 

[Jessica Rain]

No worries Winslow, I don't believe in adversarial dynamics. I have no enemies so feel free to say anything you like; it's not personal, ever. A little history for those that don't know. The first "review" board in the world was Lyla.com and it was built and facilitated by Joyful C. It's intent was to allow clients to have an avenue to warn others about dangerous providers to ensure client safety and give clients a sense of community that hadn't existed before. Then came the "review" boards that allowed the rating, recommending, intimidating, coercion and blackmailing of providers. The legitimate providers that "knew her place" were rewarded and those that tried to maintain boundaries were severely punished. And on rare occasion, someone warned about potentially dangerous providers. To this day, Lyla is the only public board whose mission statement includes the protection of ethical providers and is considered provider friendly. The boards were not created to "review" they were created as a venue to control and were successful in the endeavour until the adaptation of social media to sexwork. Social media allows providers to avoid the toxicity of boards and just move on with their business. Most of the SM early adopter sexworkers have absolutely no board presence because they don't need it. Boards contribute nothing to their business which is a step forward imo. None of this has anything to do with the thread topic however...

smiles, cat

From my understanding. Lyla went more "review" style (if you can call it that) after Fred opened TERB. Kind of like the guys here started HUBGFE in the wake of things they didn't like with TERB, so did FRed start TERB because he and others wanted the ability to rate moreso then just warn.

However, Lyla is still more of a recommendation board. It encourages guys to recommend ladies to each other and warn against scams but tries very hard to not rate or "review" so to speak. I assume that is to ensure that ladies don't feel/see the intimidating coercion style reviews.

 

[Maurice Boscorelli]

Well of course. What possible reason would a service provider have for a forum that enables a community of consumers who will invariably scrutinize the quality and consistency their services, while demanding value for money? The unfortunate part is that the lack of integrity and honesty on the part of the consumers by far exceeds that of the providers.



Winslow - you simply need to hobby within your means, dude. If you can't afford her, you can't afford her. You need to accept that and not project your personal limitations on her, and you can't blame her (or twitter) for her success. If she provides an exceptional, consistently value-added, and exceedingly satisfying experience, she deserves every penny that comes her way. Being an escort for a living ain't a walk in the park, no matter what public image they project. Those that do it and do it well earn their success one session at a time, and it never gets easier, only harder as time goes by - don't kid yourself.

Where screening is concerned, also easy. If you can't abide, just step aside. Many others can and will.

Excellent responses demien. Your posts make good sense!!

I agree as well. There's method to his madness.

 

[Ken878]

Note: If we didn't have review sites, would she ever have given the money back?. I doubt it so kudos to them..

Then they wonder why we don't give out our personal information when booking. Too dangerous as one bad apple ruins all.

 

[Jessica Rain]

Note: If we didn't have review sites, would she ever have given the money back?. I doubt it so kudos to them..

Then they wonder why we don't give out our personal information when booking. Too dangerous as one bad apple ruins all.

And you wonder why ladies ask for personal info. Too dangerous as one bad apple ruined it all when he raped a provider, when he robbed a provider....

See how it works both ways.

And I agree, I don't think she would have returned the money without the pressure. But this client was able to get his money back. Women can't write on a review board and get back their money that was stolen or get back their un-raped body.

Just food for thought.