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The Rainbow Flag

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    Votes: 8 32.0%

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    Votes: 17 68.0%
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Louis XIV

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Today I saw the Rainbow flag, long a symbol of the LGBT Movement, flying over a public elementary school (K-8) just beneath the national flag on the same pole.

Is this appropriate?

I also observed a group of adults standing on the sidewalk in front of the school discussing the flag. Clearly, diametrically opposed philosophical extremes were at play as the discussion/debate grew more and more heated, with passions flaring on both sides.

What do members here think?
 
I don't think it's appropriate, but not for the typical gay-bashing reasons. I think many of the core concepts associated with adult sexuality in general, homosexuality in particular, and same-sex coupling are beyond the ability of the majority of elementary school children to rationalize in any mature or reasonable manner, so by doing so, an important issue is reduced to nothing more than 'feel good' marketing and gratuitous propaganda.

Flying the flag over an elementary school population just doesn't seem age-appropriate, no matter how you slice it. Politically correct, yes, but not age-appropriate.
 
I don't really think it's appropriate. You can make a case for it during Pride week, but not so much for the rest of the year.
 
The LBGT movement has to be quite pleased with themselves.

But I'm of the opinion that this just isn't appropriate for a learning institution.

Let's leave the agendas where they belong and that's certainly not in elementary schools.
 
I fully support alternate lifestyle choices. Just don't force them on me or others. Flying the flag in front of a school is a way of doing that.

Fly the flag all you want in front of your house or business. Doesn't bother me one bit. But flying in front of a school or public building sends the wrong message.
 
I've seen images of schools in the southern U.S. flying Confederate Flags under the schools flags. I've also seen made up religious flags flying under public school flags in the south. Is it possible for elementary school kids to rationalize what it is to be gay/lesbian/transgenedered? Most likely not. But as adults the parents don't make it any easier by shunning them from the topic for fear that they might somehow catch "the gay disease" and become one. How about the notion that the kids are being brainwashed into accepting the "gay lifestyle?" That's wrong because the only people allowed to brainwash their children are the parents. :biggrin2:

*Waves to Josh Dugger*

I'm tired of the outrage over everything nowadays. While I understand and fully agree that the symbol flying over the school should be national one I honestly cannot be bothered with this because it's not doing any harm in my opinion.

*Sighs*
 
Cardinal Fang said:
I've seen images of schools in the southern U.S. flying Confederate Flags under the schools flags. I've also seen made up religious flags flying under public school flags in the south. Is it possible for elementary school kids to rationalize what it is to be gay/lesbian/transgenedered? Most likely not. But as adults the parents don't make it any easier by shunning them from the topic for fear that they might somehow catch "the gay disease" and become one. How about the notion that the kids are being brainwashed into accepting the "gay lifestyle?" That's wrong because the only people allowed to brainwash their children are the parents. :biggrin2:

*Waves to Josh Dugger*

I'm tired of the outrage over everything nowadays. While I understand and fully agree that the symbol flying over the school should be national one I honestly cannot be bothered with this because it's not doing any harm in my opinion.

*Sighs*
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Although there may be some people who leap immediately to DEFCON4 (i.e. outrage) I'm not one of them. But I do think that sometimes, some discretion should be exercised to allow for accommodation of the lowest common denominator.

Placing public-facing symbols of controversial or mature social themes is fine with me, but the placement of same should always take into consideration the potential impact those symbols may have on the most vulnerable members of the consumer audience. I'm also not a fan of placing overt symbols which promote racism, fundamentalist religion, abortion/pro-choice, assisted suicide, legalization of cannabis, domestic violence, substance abuse, etc. in elementary schools as the youngest audiences in those venues are simply not equipped to deal with the subject matter, which can lead to a whole host of other peripheral social and emotions problems.

Freedom of speech, political correctness and social liberalism should never trump age appropriateness.
 
12-2 not in favor so far. Do we send it to our councilor :biggrin2:
 
Louis XIV said:
Although there may be some people who leap immediately to DEFCON4 (i.e. outrage) I'm not one of them. But I do think that sometimes, some discretion should be exercised to allow for accommodation of the lowest common denominator.

Placing public-facing symbols of controversial or mature social themes is fine with me, but the placement of same should always take into consideration the potential impact those symbols may have on the most vulnerable members of the consumer audience. I'm also not a fan of placing overt symbols which promote racism, fundamentalist religion, abortion/pro-choice, assisted suicide, legalization of cannabis, domestic violence, substance abuse, etc. in elementary schools as the youngest audiences in those venues are simply not equipped to deal with the subject matter, which can lead to a whole host of other peripheral social and emotions problems.

Freedom of speech, political correctness and social liberalism should never trump age appropriateness.
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I just want to point out that I agree with everything you posted.

What caught my eye is the last two words in your post. And herein lies the heart of the discussion. What is age appropriate? To sum their children are NEVER an age to appreciate God knows what. I honestly believe children are smarter than we think. And while I will always concur that it is the parents obligation to decide what is age appropriate, you have to agree with me that many parents today have abdicated that responsibility to the internet where children are learning things the way they should never be allowed to.
 
Cardinal Fang said:
What caught my eye is the last two words in your post. And herein lies the heart of the discussion. What is age appropriate? To sum their children are NEVER an age to appreciate God knows what. I honestly believe children are smarter than we think. And while I will always concur that it is the parents obligation to decide what is age appropriate, you have to agree with me that many parents today have abdicated that responsibility to the internet where children are learning things the way they should never be allowed to.
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Good post Fang, and to be honest, I sometimes struggle as a parent to balance the censorship of essential information with the need for education and enlightenment where my kids are concerned. Every family is different, but in most cases, children are all the same. They will all typically react emotionally (rather than intellectually) to things that are to them perhaps, scary, threatening, or simply downright confusing.

Knowing what information to provide at what point in a child's personal development in order to keep them safe from emotional harm is very tricky business for any parent, or adult for that matter, and is usually best decided by those that know them best. This being the case, it's hard for people to see organizations (as opposed to families) promote graphic symbols of contentious subjects which force their children into potentially emotionally damaging situations.

The sad part is that in many instances, those same adults are also incapable of dealing with those same contentious issues rationally and intellectually, and tend to react more emotionally than even a child might.

I actually have no issues with homosexuality or same-sex coupling, nor with many of the core concepts associated with the LGBT movement. Unfortunately, this movement has become a catch-all for many things that while not directly associated with the movement itself, are still deemed to be highly controversial in terms of behavior and/or lifestyle by the social majority, so when you do want to address the movement's core principles, you need to address all the rest too.

Therein lies the problem - the Rainbow Flag no longer represents what it was originally intended to, but rather a much broader, more complex, and nebulous scope of behavioral philosophy which many believe is definitely beyond the ability of younger minds to digest.
 
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