Three albino baby raccoons found

[tboy]

I believe raccoons, skunks and other rodents can be a nuisance in the city and in such close quarters to people are more of a health risk to young children and family pets.

We need a better wild animal control system that enables the homeowners to make a phone call and a professional comes out and safely removes the animal(s), then relocates them elsewhere at a very reasonable fee to the homeowner.

There are, lots of them......I think one was listed at the bottom of the story.....but the thing is, they can't relocate them farther than a kilometer where they were caught and raccoons have a very set foraging area that they will return to.

As for them being a nuisance, well, you could always move right? After all, they were here first and WE are trespassing on THEIR territory.

SG: I got that from the way he was comparing them to rats and mice which pose a more significant health risk due to their ability to mix with our food products.

But since humans and our communicable diseases, and priests pose more of a health risk, you could say that WE are more hazardous to children than raccoons....

For eg: how many stories are in the news about kids getting attacked or sick from encounters with raccoons? how many do you hear about getting abducted, assaulted, beaten, or murdered by humans? (in many cases their parents)

You specified indirect contact, I was just clarifying that indirect contact is defined as contact with contaminated medium. Soil, surfaces or air that is contaminated with feces or urine are indirect sources where disease can be transmitted. This also pertains to your pets possibly coming in contact with these sources. The links I provided, list diseases that raccoons can carry that can transmit indirectly.

And as I pointed out you either have to eat the raccoon, eat their feces, or have an open cut to contract the diseases carried by raccoons. (or contact some feces within a specific time frame).

No matter how you try and swing it, raccoons pose a much lesser risk than rats or mice......I've actually had quite a few encounters with raccoons and they are more afraid of us than I am of them. (well, not all, one time one was in the garbage bin back in the city and I shocked him when I opened the lid. He just looked at me, I looked at him, I threw my bag in the other end of the bin and he just kept on foraging lol...he just gave me one of these looks:

 

[Betthehouse]

Homeowner plans anti-raccoon rally

Homeowner plans anti-raccoon rally

“I doubt that gentleman woke up one morning and decided he was going to beat raccoons, but I could see him coming to the end of his rope,” he said. “People are fed up and know they’re on their own. I don’t think that incident was isolated — I think we’ll see more.”

Read on his point of view.

 

[tboy]

Oh don't get me started on "we're just another animal"........

 

[Dan]

As for them being a nuisance, well, you could always move right? After all, they were here first and WE are trespassing on THEIR territory.

Come on, really! Would you still feel this way if you were away for several weeks, you come back and find your country home trashed by a family of raccoons that found their way in? Plus invited Jeramey the Skunk in to spray your bedroom with it's essence!:he:


But since humans and our communicable diseases, and priests pose more of a health risk, you could say that WE are more hazardous to children than raccoons....

For eg: how many stories are in the news about kids getting attacked or sick from encounters with raccoons? how many do you hear about getting abducted, assaulted, beaten, or murdered by humans? (in many cases their parents)

and they get put away for a very long time but I would rather they hang or have take a good beating on the head with a nice solid shovel!



And as I pointed out you either have to eat the raccoon, eat their feces, or have an open cut to contract the diseases carried by raccoons. (or contact some feces within a specific time frame).

As others have stated, children and family pets are at risk, don't you think?

No matter how you try and swing it, raccoons pose a much lesser risk than rats or mice......I've actually had quite a few encounters with raccoons and they are more afraid of us than I am of them. (well, not all, one time one was in the garbage bin back in the city and I shocked him when I opened the lid. He just looked at me, I looked at him, I threw my bag in the other end of the bin and he just kept on foraging lol...he just gave me one of these looks:

Consider yourself lucky he didn't jump at you claws first! They can be very vicious if they feel threatened with no place to run.

I remember years ago the neighbors dog use to get loose and come into my property and kill my father's chickens and rabbits. Happened 3 times and the 3rd. time was the last. My father grabbed the shot gun and blew the Malamute away. Much to my surprise my neighbor came by, paid for the destroyed live stock and took the dead dog's carcass back home to bury it. The 2 families remained friends until the day we moved on.

I spent the first 12 years of my life growing up on a small farm. Maybe I see things a little different than most.

 

[Maurice Boscorelli]

I remember years ago the neighbors dog use to get loose and come into my property and kill my father's chickens and rabbits. Happened 3 times and the 3rd. time was the last. My father grabbed the shot gun and blew the Malamute away. Much to my surprise my neighbor came by, paid for the destroyed live stock and took the dead dog's carcass back home to bury it. The 2 families remained friends until the day we moved on.

I spent the first 12 years of my life growing up on a small farm. Maybe I see things a little different than most.

A little bit different scenario though right when you think about it. In your dads case the dog was killing his animals whereas here the raccoons are destroying a garden.

Another story for the kill happy on here. Many years ago at my cottage we had a porcupine that decided to use the corner of our cottage for a meal night in and night out. It was fairly obvious that something had to be done as this was just going keep on going. I figured I had two options, either camp out and shoot the bugger or attach aluminum to the bottom of the dwelling. I chose the latter and of course the problem was solved.

With animals I will only use lethal measures when there is absolutely no alternative and frankly most times there is an alternative.

 

[tboy]

Ah, I know a couple of farmers and animals are just money on the hoof or trash to be dealt with severely (aka shotgun). At least if buddy in this story used a humane method to dispose of the critters I would be a little more lenient.

As for dan's points:
1) Rocky I ran into didn't feel threatened because I didn't act in a threatening manner. I said softly: Heyyy rocky......then gently lifted the lid and put my bag of trash in. I find with many wild or strange animals if you act calmly, they'll act calmly (and I've run into raccoons quite a few times with no issues).
2) Pets and children: well, pets shouldn't be running wild unsupervised to get into trouble in the first place. If dogs are out in the backyard, the owners should be there. Same goes for kids. When I was young I wasn't allowed in the backyard without an adult present. Even if they were sitting there reading the paper and having a coffee. Or if we went to the park, we were walked there, handed off to the counsellor and then told a specific time when a parent would pick us up. Hence why I was never molested or got into any trouble......
3) As for my home: no, I wouldn't be happy about it but before I left I'd make sure it was as pest proof as possible and (according to insurance rules) I'd have someone in every 3 days checking on the place.

You see, where I live many look at deer as pests to be poisoned, shot at, and otherwise killed simply because of the irritant factor. I don't and if I hear of anyone doing anything untoward to any animal, I warn them: keep talking, I'm making notes to report you to the authorities. I can't tell you how many times I've stepped outside to see a doe and fawn munching on my grass or just passing by. I love it.....I won't go out of my way to feed them, but if they eat my flowers? BFD...hope they enjoyed the meal. My neighbour was in my driveway in his van one time last summer. When I pulled up he got out and said: I'm up here because I chased a bear off your porch.....he thought I'd be upset, nope. I thought it was cool.....

Plus everyone bitches about animals getting into their garbage and making a mess. I've been here for just over a year and I have yet to have ANY problems. Know why? I don't leave my garbage out for them to get into it. It comes out of my house, into my truck and into the bin on collection day. The only people who have problems are the ones who put it out the night before, or leave it out all week in unsealed containers.....

 

[tboy]

A little bit different scenario though right when you think about it. In your dads case the dog was killing his animals whereas here the raccoons are destroying a garden.

Another story for the kill happy on here. Many years ago at my cottage we had a porcupine that decided to use the corner of our cottage for a meal night in and night out. It was fairly obvious that something had to be done as this was just going keep on going. I figured I had two options, either camp out and shoot the bugger or attach aluminum to the bottom of the dwelling. I chose the latter and of course the problem was solved.

With animals I will only use lethal measures when there is absolutely no alternative and frankly most times there is an alternative.

Exactly....

There is a saying: it is too hard to "make" life and too easy to take it.........

btw: just one other thing. We humans have minds and self awareness. We have intelligence and reasoning skills. Anyone with half a brain would have realized that (in regards to the idiot in the OP) there are alternatives to taking a fucking hoe to a baby anything. A little research via this new fangled thing called the interwebnetthingy would have given him all sorts of non-violent, non-lethal ways to dissuade the raccoons from bothering his precious garden.

Living with animals and the possibility of them getting into your home is all part of home ownership. If you don't want to deal with stuff like this, then live in a condo. Otherwise, suck it up and deal with it......

 

[Melanie]

I am very impressed with Mr. Maurice and Mr. Tboy. You are both very sweet gentlemen based on the high regards/compassion you have for our furry little friends.

 

[Dan]

Ah, I know a couple of farmers and animals are just money on the hoof or trash to be dealt with severely (aka shotgun). At least if buddy in this story used a humane method to dispose of the critters I would be a little more lenient.

As for dan's points:
1) Rocky I ran into didn't feel threatened because I didn't act in a threatening manner. I said softly: Heyyy rocky......then gently lifted the lid and put my bag of trash in. I find with many wild or strange animals if you act calmly, they'll act calmly (and I've run into raccoons quite a few times with no issues).

You may be right but some people when startled cannot be as calm as you are. A cornered raccoon is a very dangerous animal.
2) Pets and children: well, pets shouldn't be running wild unsupervised to get into trouble in the first place. If dogs are out in the backyard, the owners should be there. Same goes for kids. When I was young I wasn't allowed in the backyard without an adult present. Even if they were sitting there reading the paper and having a coffee. Or if we went to the park, we were walked there, handed off to the counsellor and then told a specific time when a parent would pick us up. Hence why I was never molested or got into any trouble......

It sounds nice to say but we know that at time children do roam fenced in backyards alone, even if it's only while mom/dad runs in to get them their hotdog lunch.
3) As for my home: no, I wouldn't be happy about it but before I left I'd make sure it was as pest proof as possible and (according to insurance rules) I'd have someone in every 3 days checking on the place.

You see, where I live many look at deer as pests to be poisoned, shot at, and otherwise killed simply because of the irritant factor. I don't and if I hear of anyone doing anything untoward to any animal, I warn them: keep talking, I'm making notes to report you to the authorities. I can't tell you how many times I've stepped outside to see a doe and fawn munching on my grass or just passing by. I love it.....I won't go out of my way to feed them, but if they eat my flowers? BFD...hope they enjoyed the meal. My neighbour was in my driveway in his van one time last summer. When I pulled up he got out and said: I'm up here because I chased a bear off your porch.....he thought I'd be upset, nope. I thought it was cool.....

Plus everyone bitches about animals getting into their garbage and making a mess. I've been here for just over a year and I have yet to have ANY problems. Know why? I don't leave my garbage out for them to get into it. It comes out of my house, into my truck and into the bin on collection day. The only people who have problems are the ones who put it out the night before, or leave it out all week in unsealed containers.....

I do agree with you on you're last point, prevention is the best policy but if that fails a .22 might be the answer!!

 

[Nothingtodo]

City too broke to help with raccoons: Councillor

City too broke to help with raccoons: Councillor