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Prick said:

You're too funny. No I'm not going to block you because I know so much about transgender rights as well as other things you wouldn't give two shits about that I feel like I'm educating a preschooler on the alphabet when I reply to you.
 
Crimson Mire said:
You're too funny. No I'm not going to block you because I know so much about transgender rights as well as other things you wouldn't give two shits about that I feel like I'm educating a preschooler on the alphabet when I reply to you.

Hey dickhead. I don't give a rat's ass what you like, believe or what your next move is. I did ask you politely to tell me more about the trans rights and about them but I guess you have a problem understanding what I am saying. Reading and listening to so much bullshit from newspapers and tv news I wanted to hear from someone that knows.

Don't be such a prima because I may or know a lot more on other subjects than you but not bragging on them. You are so narrow minded that you have created a world within the real world. I also don't care if you insult me with the "I'm educating a preschooler on the alphabet". I have thick skin, like myself and respect others that know what and who they are.

So instead of more insults before I crash I just want to say that I was very interested on what you had to say but your insecurity showed. So... never mind, won't bother wasting my time anymore.


I do wish big M from Allegra agency would put on her two cents here. I am sure she will agree with me.


Don't bother replying to this post please.
 
I won't, because no matter how much I educate you about trans issues you'll continue to misgender them or use cheap tactics like how GREAT you are that you finally decided to use the right pronouns. Have a good night.
 
Canada-Man said:
feelings does not determine one's sex biology does. sex is in the DNA.

Sure it must be true.... CM says so because he's found some articles that states such, :no:.....lol. Btw, how many transgender people have you met and spoke to about the subject?
You need to do more research into how chromosomes develop within the human body, especially interesting is DAX1 and, many scientists seem to believe, that being transgender is of a biological origin..... You should also be aware, young children can't be influenced by writings they've never read, or of people they've never known or heard of. So when a child knows at a very young age that they are not the sex their bodies have assigned them, you can't claim the reason as anything but biological.
But I'm sure you'll scour the internet until you find some duface that's written a paper claiming differently and to know all about transgender identity because the bible told him/her so.....lol.
 
I find the usage of his word "feeling" questionable at best, as if he thinks it's perfectly OK to invalidate one's own gender identity the same way he thinks that people who feel angry can be told not to feel angry.

No Canada Man, gender is your IDENTITY, something that is PART of you, just like your race, religion, or gender. You're male, female, or gender non-binary and nobody has any right to have authority over what you identify yourself as.

I am gender non-binary and I identify as gender non-binary and nobody has any right to tell me that I'm not.
 
cristycurves said:
Sure it must be true.... CM says so because he's found some articles that states such, :no:.....lol. Btw, how many transgender people have you met and spoke to about the subject?
You need to do more research into how chromosomes develop within the human body, especially interesting is DAX1 and, many scientists seem to believe, that being transgender is of a biological origin..... You should also be aware, young children can't be influenced by writings they've never read, or of people they've never known or heard of. So when a child knows at a very young age that they are not the sex their bodies have assigned them, you can't claim the reason as anything but biological.
But I'm sure you'll scour the internet until you find some duface that's written a paper claiming differently and to know all about transgender identity because the bible told him/her so.....lol.


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Report Debunks ‘Born that Way’ Narrative and ‘Transgender’ Label for Kids - Ethics & Public Policy Center


Science does not support de-linking gender identity and biological sex. “The hypothesis that gender identity is an innate, fixed property of human beings that is independent of biological sex—that a person might be ‘a man trapped in a woman’s body’ or ‘a woman trapped in a man’s body’—is not supported by scientific evidence.” Brain studies “do not provide any evidence for a neurobiological basis for cross-gender identification.”

Sex-reassignment surgery is not a panacea. Compared to the general population, adults who underwent sex-reassignment surgery continued to have a higher risk of experiencing poor mental health outcomes, including being 19 times more likely to die of suicide.

Most children desist from childhood cross-gender identification. “Only a minority of children who experience cross-gender identification will continue to do so into adolescence or adulthood.” “[N]o one can determine the gender identity of a two-year-old.”

“Premature” interventions for gender-dysphoric children are alarming. “The severity and irreversibility of some interventions being publicly discussed and employed for children” are alarming and disturbing. “Therapies, treatments, and surgeries seem disproportionate to the severity of the distress being experienced by these young people, and are…premature since the majority of children who identify as the gender opposite their biological sex will not continue to do so as adults.”

“[L]ittle scientific evidence” supports the value of therapeutic intervention to “delay puberty or modify the secondary sex characteristics of adolescents,” although some children may experience “improved psychological well-being if they are encouraged … in their cross-gender identification.” However, the report urges “caution” because of the “lack of reliable studies on the long-term effects” of those interventions.

Young kids are not transgender. Other factors likely explain their gender difficulties. “There is no evidence that all children who express gender-atypical thoughts or behavior should be encouraged to become transgender.” At least one “Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders” criterion for diagnosing gender dysphoria (e.g., child exhibits a “strong preference for the toys, games, or activities stereotypically used or engaged in by the other gender”) is “unsound,” according to the report.

Furthermore, even when children do “identify as a gender opposite their biological sex, diagnoses of gender dysphoria are simply unreliable. The reality is that they may have psychological difficulties in accepting their biological sex as their gender” for other reasons, including uncomfortable gender expectations or trauma.


Part Three: Gender Identity – Sexuality and Gender - The New Atlantis


sorry cristycurves science agrees with me not you
 
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Crimson Mire said:
I am gender non-binary and I identify as gender non-binary and nobody has any right to tell me that I'm not.

My feeling is I don't care either way but let's say you robbed a bank, you wouldn't but just lets say you did. The cops are on your tail what would they describe you as?

A) Male, 5ft. 9 with purple hair, carrying a squirt gun running down Yonge towards Gerrard, proceed with caution

B) Female, 5ft. 9 with purple hair, carrying a squirt gun running down Yonge towards Gerrard, proceed with caution

C) no idea what it is, 5ft. 9 with purple hair, carrying a squirt gun running down Yonge towards Gerrard, proceed with caution

:rofl!:so sorry, I had to, sorry....
 
Canada-Man said:
on transgenders with twins disproves the claim that transgenderism is biological


Report Debunks ‘Born that Way’ Narrative and ‘Transgender’ Label for Kids - Ethics & Public Policy Center


Science does not support de-linking gender identity and biological sex. “The hypothesis that gender identity is an innate, fixed property of human beings that is independent of biological sex—that a person might be ‘a man trapped in a woman’s body’ or ‘a woman trapped in a man’s body’—is not supported by scientific evidence.” Brain studies “do not provide any evidence for a neurobiological basis for cross-gender identification.

Again, you're picking out biased studies. I can pick out 10x more studies that show that gender identity is independent of sex.

Sex-reassignment surgery is not a panacea. Compared to the general population, adults who underwent sex-reassignment surgery continued to have a higher risk of experiencing poor mental health outcomes, including being 19 times more likely to die of suicide.

What's your point then? That they should not receive sex-reassignment surgery because "they might die from suicide"? Have you considered that the reason why the trans population in general have a higher rate of suicide IS because they are unhappy with the genitalia that they were born with?


Most children desist from childhood cross-gender identification. “Only a minority of children who experience cross-gender identification will continue to do so into adolescence or adulthood.” “[N]o one can determine the gender identity of a two-year-old.

I'll let the child to decide for themselves. If a male-assigned-at-birth identifies as female and wishes to be seen as female in adolescence her parents and her friends should ALWAYS refer to her as female. Otherwise it's emotional abuse.
 
“Premature” interventions for gender-dysphoric children are alarming. “The severity and irreversibility of some interventions being publicly discussed and employed for children” are alarming and disturbing. “Therapies, treatments, and surgeries seem disproportionate to the severity of the distress being experienced by these young people, and are…premature since the majority of children who identify as the gender opposite their biological sex will not continue to do so as adults.”

“[L]ittle scientific evidence” supports the value of therapeutic intervention to “delay puberty or modify the secondary sex characteristics of adolescents,” although some children may experience “improved psychological well-being if they are encouraged … in their cross-gender identification.” However, the report urges “caution” because of the “lack of reliable studies on the long-term effects” of those interventions.


Honestly if you were to ask me I don't think interventions are necessary, and it's faulty and problematic to think that trans people HAVE to receive thrapies, treatments, or surgeries in order to be validated as trans. I know a lot of trans people and most of them HAVE NOT received any surgeries.

You know what's the best way to improve the lives of trans people? By asking transphobes and bigots to grown a fucking brain not act like transphobic little shit eaters.

Young kids are not transgender. Other factors likely explain their gender difficulties. “There is no evidence that all children who express gender-atypical thoughts or behavior should be encouraged to become transgender.” At least one “Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders” criterion for diagnosing gender dysphoria (e.g., child exhibits a “strong preference for the toys, games, or activities stereotypically used or engaged in by the other gender”) is “unsound,” according to the report.

Furthermore, even when children do “identify as a gender opposite their biological sex, diagnoses of gender dysphoria are simply unreliable. The reality is that they may have psychological difficulties in accepting their biological sex as their gender” for other reasons, including uncomfortable gender expectations or trauma.

blah blah blah more reasons to discredit the experiences of trans people, that they are "sick in the head". That's not only transphobic but also ablist.


Part Three: Gender Identity – Sexuality and Gender - The New Atlantis


sorry cristycurves science agrees with me not you[/QUOTE]
 
Madman said:
My feeling is I don't care either way but let's say you robbed a bank, you wouldn't but just lets say you did. The cops are on your tail what would they describe you as?

A) Male, 5ft. 9 with purple hair, carrying a squirt gun running down Yonge towards Gerrard, proceed with caution

B) Female, 5ft. 9 with purple hair, carrying a squirt gun running down Yonge towards Gerrard, proceed with caution

C) no idea what it is, 5ft. 9 with purple hair, carrying a squirt gun running down Yonge towards Gerrard, proceed with caution

:rofl!:so sorry, I had to, sorry....

Does it fucking matter? In a fully accepting world people will not be referring to each other based on their perceived genders.
 
Crimson Mire said:
Canada-Man said:
on transgenders with twins disproves the claim that transgenderism is biological


Report Debunks ‘Born that Way’ Narrative and ‘Transgender’ Label for Kids - Ethics & Public Policy Center


Science does not support de-linking gender identity and biological sex. “The hypothesis that gender identity is an innate, fixed property of human beings that is independent of biological sex—that a person might be ‘a man trapped in a woman’s body’ or ‘a woman trapped in a man’s body’—is not supported by scientific evidence.” Brain studies “do not provide any evidence for a neurobiological basis for cross-gender identification.

Again, you're picking out biased studies. I can pick out 10x more studies that show that gender identity is independent of sex.

Sex-reassignment surgery is not a panacea. Compared to the general population, adults who underwent sex-reassignment surgery continued to have a higher risk of experiencing poor mental health outcomes, including being 19 times more likely to die of suicide.

What's your point then? That they should not receive sex-reassignment surgery because "they might die from suicide"? Have you considered that the reason why the trans population in general have a higher rate of suicide IS because they are unhappy with the genitalia that they were born with?


Most children desist from childhood cross-gender identification. “Only a minority of children who experience cross-gender identification will continue to do so into adolescence or adulthood.” “[N]o one can determine the gender identity of a two-year-old.

I'll let the child to decide for themselves. If a male-assigned-at-birth identifies as female and wishes to be seen as female in adolescence her parents and her friends should ALWAYS refer to her as female. Otherwise it's emotional abuse.


constantly crying bias at stuff you don't like is not an argument. biological facts and reality does not care about your feelings. underage children are not adults their judgments and mental capabilities are not fully developed this is why we have laws against child labour, laws against adult child sex, not allowed to sign contracts etc.

and the racent transgender fad in children are driving by adults


Trans activists are effectively experimenting on children. Could there be anything more cruel? | Coffee House
 
@Crimson Mire, it is impossible to have a reasonable discussion with CM as he doesn't seem to care where he gets his sources just as long as they agree with his thinking. So you'll never make him see truth. This is how he spends his time, copying and pasting anything that sides with his opinion, regardless of it's value, relevancy, or source. He seems to have no personal experience with any of the subjects he argues either.
 
cristycurves said:
@Crimson Mire, it is impossible to have a reasonable discussion with CM as he doesn't seem to care where he gets his sources just as long as they agree with his thinking. So you'll never make him see truth. This is how he spends his time, copying and pasting anything that sides with his opinion, regardless of it's value, relevancy, or source. He seems to have no personal experience with any of the subjects he argues either.

you have no right to complain about my sources when you dismiss them refusing to read them and constantly complaining like a 6 year old who cannot have his/her own way
 
Canada-Man said:
Crimson Mire said:
constantly crying bias at stuff you don't like is not an argument. biological facts and reality does not care about your feelings. underage children are not adults their judgments and mental capabilities are not fully developed this is why we have laws against child labour, laws against adult child sex, not allowed to sign contracts etc.

and the racent transgender fad in children are driving by adults


Trans activists are effectively experimenting on children. Could there be anything more cruel? | Coffee House

Huh? Are you saying that abusing, raping, and asserting power over children is comparable to empowering them to decide their own gender identity?
 
Crimson Mire said:
Does it fucking matter? In a fully accepting world people will not be referring to each other based on their perceived genders.

I have to disagree with you on this one. Male and female are a legitimate description of an individual. You cannot dispute science. You were born either a male or female and unless you have corrective surgery along with massive hormone treatment we are what we are when it comes down to description.
 
Crimson Mire said:
Canada-Man said:
Huh? Are you saying that abusing, raping, and asserting power over children is comparable to empowering them to decide their own gender identity?


yes children are not physically and mentally mature to enter sexual relations, vote, sign contracts, drive vehicles and work in jobs. what makes you think they can handle gender identity issues?
 
Canada-Man said:
you have no right to complain about my sources when you dismiss them refusing to read them and constantly complaining like a 6 year old who cannot have his/her own way

Lol, okay, says the pot as he calls the kettle black.....:) Who says I didn't read them. You are always so assuming, and you sir are the child.Not only can you google, you can also read minds......LOL. It is *so* important for you to prove your point as being the right point, that you have to go from forum to forum, to do so, all while trying to gain a "pro" audience to support your beliefs. Let me ask you, "why do you care so much about how another person identifies"? *It is* really none of your business, nor is it any of mine. We should all want our fellow man to feel comfortable in their own skin, and that skin is for them to identify as they see fit, not you, or I , not biologists, nor neuroscientists, psychologists, psychiatrists, or anyone else.
And just in case you weren't aware, science isn't proven through google, nor is anything else. Any of us can find studies on any subject on the net that will side with our beliefs and we'll also find those that will go against our beliefs, and simply because you can find some who've made determinations based on their studies to favor your opinion, doesn't mean the other side is wrong, they too have done, and are doing studies, that determine your opinion, *as being wrong*. So who is right? Certainly you haven't the knowledge, background, or personal experience to determine this, nor do I, and posting and reposting studies that side with you, only proves how much time you spend scouring the net, nothing else...... So why not continue to live your life, sitting at home scouring the net, lol, and allow others to live theirs, identifying as they feel comfortable indentifying:)
Check the Science: Being Trans Is Not a 'Choice' | POV | OZY
 
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