Urban Cowboy's recent massage parlor mini-reviews

[Ryan1967]

So...this triggered a memory for me...The one and only time I went to a CMJ party was last year for St. Aptty's Day (went with Sixto befor he buggered off)...anyway, she was there tending bar and scheduling rooms and was accopanied by her asshat BF...Apart from being really not sensual or sexy at all...she has terrible taste in men!

 

[HUBGFEsup]

That party was the day Jessica peaced out officially. Hard to believe it's been a year already. Of course she had already planned her exit strategy (Brass Club) in advance.

It also means it's been about a year since I shifted focus away from forums and towards Twitter.

How this past year flew by so quickly.

I first met asshat boyfriend in October 2015. He was actually very pleasant at the time, but was more assholish at subsequent parties.

 

[slurp]

Holy crap I'm making an appointment today to see my doctor, to get checked for Alzheimer's as my memory RAM is clearly not functioning!!

Hold on a second, it may not be your head RAM, it could be an issue with your bionic RAM!!! Perhaps too much blood is rushing down to your hydraulic cock and not enough left for cognizant functions. Maybe better check in with the weiner doctor! :NoNoNo:

 

[HUBGFEsup]

I've started using the coupons from last week's CMJ party and began by seeing Ivory, the same Ivory with whom I had a duo last week with Faith.

Lapdance, blindfolded lapdance, DFK, teasing, variety of moves on the table, nipple sucking, blindfolded 69 where I had DATY and the ridiculously strong hand finish, shower for two, lots of joking around, very passionate.

The only thing I need to nitpick is that her body has a slight odour. Maybe it's "Middle Eastern person smell"? I noticed it during the Ivory-Faith duo last week too. Her pussy has its own slight aroma. I soldiered through it like a trooper but I'm overly sensitive to any kind of smells so there's the possibility I won't repeat, which is too bad because she's so great at everything else and has a very nice trim body.

Need to decide which CMJ coupon to use next.

 

[slurp]

Curry can be a killer.

 

[blackram]

A lot of stuff that tastes great, smells terrible. Cheese, dried fish, sauerkraut, kimchi, cabbage, etc.

 

[HUBGFEsup]

Saw Jayden @ Brass Club tonight. An impulsive, last-minute visit at a place where I feel like an unfamiliar face and seeing a girl I've never met before. I think it worked out pretty well, considering it was her third day on the job and I haven't met many of the Brass girls.

Acronyms: LFK, shower play, I nearly came in the shower, tons of joking around, hand roaming, good hand finish. Did not attempt digits nor DATY as I did not want to over-perv the newbie. Can't think of a celebrity reference. +1 for the GFE list.

 

[HUBGFEsup]

Saw Hope @ Brass Club. I think the guy who nominated Hope for whiteman's HVFM list was full of shit. Though, this was my first time seeing Hope and I generally don't ask/about for high mileage if it's my first visit. I got digits, heavy making out, tons of bodysliding, shower play, and a hand finish.

 

[HUBGFEsup]

No DATY. When I asked her whether she liked to be eaten out, she gave a neutral answer. She will allow it but doesn't particularly enjoy it. She will allow it if a guy wants/likes to do it. I passed.

No pussy slides either. Tons of simulated cowgirl though. This girl is energetic.

 

[blackram]

Everything is YMMV, as usual.

 

[HUBGFEsup]

I understand that. But who is this Globus guy who nominated Hope for the HVFM list? Unlike slurp who we trust and has repeated contributions, Globus is just a one time contributor to your list. (Actually so am I.)

Though Hope is fun, nothing about her behaviour suggests she would go beyond limits. I've known her for six months, running into her almost every time I visit Brass Club and have regularly chatted on Twitter with her since I met her. I've never heard even a whisper of her doing anything beyond limits even from all the input and PMs I receive from guys on TERB.

I'm NOT sour about Hope. I had a great time. I'm baffled by Globus, whose input goes totally against the general consensus, like the one fucker who voted Malena Parisi as a swallower just to get on my swallow list, with our DOB group rebutting. In essence I am going with the majority consensus in rebutting Globus' input. He even states (in this post: Tipping at "all inclusive" massage places) that he rarely receives service outside of MA limits. His other reviews (few as they are) are quite standard.

I know you've done your vetting of hopeful (pun intended) entrants on this list and you wouldn't accept guys who are bullshitting...

 

[blackram]

You might want to ask Globus directly through PM on Terb. Ask him how he got her to do what he says he got her to do. If somebody says they got some extra services, they obviously can't put it down in their public reviews of this girl, so when they say it in private, I can only go on their word. Besides, as has been mentioned about the list, the only thing that is required with the girls that are nominated is that they provide a naked handjob at or below the required rate limits, and this girl provides those minimal services at those rates. Providing extra services beyond that is just a bonus. It's not a list about who provides free BBBJ's, or free anal, it's just a list about who provides nude HJ's.

So when you think of it like that, the entire HVFM list is actually a very low-bar list to get on, much like with your GFE MA list. When we read through your GFE MA list, we interpret a lot of extra potential into it, that perhaps we shouldn't be reading into it. Similarly, the HVFM list puts a lot of names into our radar, and we can read through the list to find some girls are bigger bargains than other girls, even though both girls are in the same list. One girl might provide free BBBJ, while another might charge $20 extra for it, so you have to do a comparison shop between them.

 

[slurp]

Fuck, it's so complicated keeping our dicks happy these days. They are out of control I tell ya!

Thanks for the mention UC, it just proves I am a cheap old bastard in my old age. Damn-Not too smart

 

[Ryan1967]

I had the same experience with Arielle at CMJ...so I call BS on that entry also, much like Hope and her extra services. I get your point BR that the list has a low entry bar but you could basically copy and paste all of UC's list into the HVFM list since ALL MA's will provide a nude HJ, but that would make the list completely useless as it would quadruple in size. Can I suggest we add a "possible BS" flag (perhaps not worded like that!) but somewhere to capture that reports on services are inconsistent, if nothing else it will help others. I went to see Arielle with the hope of getting a bbbj as the list mentioned...like UC I am not sour either, but others should be warned...kinda like the both up and down votes on UC's list.

 

[blackram]

I had the same experience with Arielle at CMJ...so I call BS on that entry also, much like Hope and her extra services. I get your point BR that the list has a low entry bar but you could basically copy and paste all of UC's list into the HVFM list since ALL MA's will provide a nude HJ, but that would make the list completely useless as it would quadruple in size.

Well, it's not just MA's in this list, there are SP's here too. SP's wouldn't stop at just a nude HJ, so if an SP makes it into this list, it's likely that she's providing FS at or under the price limits, which would make her a really good deal. And because SP's provide more than just an HJ, they typically tend to charge more than an MA. So it does filter out all of the $160/hh+ or $220/hr+ SP's. But if the SP is coming in under the limit, those are the really special cases that people should know about. The price limits were really designed to filter out SP's rather than MA's.

As for MA's making it into the list, that's really just a throw-away criterion. Most MA's will make it in, under these price guidelines. But that's why I'm asking people to nominate a special MA, rather than just copying and pasting UC's list into mine. Somebody who they think is special enough to make it into the list, must be a really special MA, somebody like Victoria at PS for example. Not everybody at PS or AT have made it into the list, because I am waiting for somebody to nominate individual names. Somebody who nominates an MA, must really think that they are extra special. Now, since then a few other girls from AT/PS have been nominated into the list besides just Victoria.

The reason the low-bar criterion of just a nude HJ was introduced was to allow MA's to participate in the list. If people think this is just an SP-only list, then people are going to assume minimum service requirement is FS, and they won't nominate good bargains in the MA world. An MA who doesn't provide FS, but does provide BBBJ, CIM, DATY, etc. shouldn't be excluded just because she doesn't go FS. A lot of people really are fine without FS, as long as these other services are provided.

So when you're looking at SP's in this list, they are considered good values because their prices are low enough to make it into this list. When you're looking at MA's on the list, they are considered good values because their services are high enough to make it into the list.

Can I suggest we add a "possible BS" flag (perhaps not worded like that!) but somewhere to capture that reports on services are inconsistent, if nothing else it will help others. I went to see Arielle with the hope of getting a bbbj as the list mentioned...like UC I am not sour either, but others should be warned...kinda like the both up and down votes on UC's list.

I don't know how that could work, as discussions about what services are really available or not from a provider requires that we discuss them in the open on the public forums. We're trying to keep the names of these providers secret, so we never discuss actual names publicly. We'd need a private invitation-only group in Terb, equivalent to our DOB group here, to be able to discuss any services.

Maybe, if I just make sure I put in "YMMV" explicitly in their additional service notes. This would indicate there there's some controversy about these specific girls. It should be assumed that everything YMMV regardless, but these are noted with extra emphasis.

 

[Ryan1967]

There must be a way to ferrit out BS entries as opposed to YMMV. Otherwise people can say anything. Many have confirmed that Victoria provides all kinds of extras for the standard $100 tip. So far UC and I have both tested a couple of other entries and we both call BS (admittely on 2 different MA's), There should be way of flagging the entries with some more intel other than YMMV...which I do not believe is the case with either Arielle or Hope. Maybe just put "inconsistent" in the comments and people can make up their own minds if gthey want to take the chance?

 

[blackram]

And could you guys also PM the original contributors of those girls to see what they have to say for themselves about these services? If you already have PM'ed them and they haven't gotten back to you, I can possibly tell them via email too.

 

[HUBGFEsup]

I contacted Globus about Hope. Waiting for his reply. I'll share insights here.

 

[Ryan1967]

I'm not really that interested as I have zero intention of ever seeing Arielle again, sadly there was no mention of her enhanced boobs in the list. My point was more of trying to suggest a way to point out possible BS entries, but it does not seem like the list moderator is interested... ...I will let it go.

 

[blackram]

I'm just a little concerned that attaching a label of "inconsistent" might be misinterpreted, as in their entire service is inconsistent, which would discourage guys from going to see them at all.