Whitney Houston, Superstar of Records, Films, Dies

[Guido]

Sad for sure but I agree she brought death upon herself. As for her singing when she was at the top of her game, she was incredible, what a shame.

 

[LisaOfToronto]

I saw Whitney Houston long long time ago when I 1st moved to Toronto, she performed at the old exhibition stadium. It was a memorable concert and I always loved her music. RIP Whitney

found this: her last performance just 2 days before she died

 

[Dan]

She's in a better place and has now shed her demons for good.

RIP

 

[LisaOfToronto]

 

[LickingGravity]

I'm not sure why people have so little sympathy for someone who was afflicted by an addiction. It's as much of a freakin' desease as anything. I quit smoking and that was fucking hard and I very nearly didn't do it, well I understand that with coke you can multiply that by 10. I doubt anyone wakes up in the morning and decides " for shits and giggles today I'm going to become a coke addict"

I digress - man she had some pipes and BTW I actually did fall on the floor when the tone deaf member suggested that the pale big boobed country singer could even sing in the same choir as WH :biggrin:

 

[tboy]

Sorry LG, being addicted to crack or coke is NOT a disease. That's what the do gooders say when actually it's a weakness. I mean cancer is a fucking disease. Diabetes is a fucking disease. Picking up a crack pipe is NOT a disease, it's a habit. Yes, smoking is as hard to quit as heroin butt the big difference is, one can function perfectly normally (for the most part) while smoking, while high on crack or heroin? umm not so much.

For eg: I am addicted to cocacola (different kind of coke). Simply because of the caffiene. But I can have a can in a meeting, while operating heavy machinery, while driving but the other kind? umm not so much.

Back to the smoking issue for a moment: a well off friend of mine said to me once while I was lighting up, "anyone he had ever met who was really successful, didn't smoke"....Showing me a kind of object lesson. He kind of shut up when I said "ever heard of this guy...what's his name? he's big in the US...oh yeah, I think his name is Obama"........lol...that shut him up.

 

[LickingGravity]

Don't waste any money hanging up that shingle there T, Dr Phil you ain't :biggrin:

To help you get that dime-store degree perhaps you should start with this :

https://alcoholism.about.com/cs/drugs/f/drug_faq02.htm

Drug addiction is a complex brain disease

 

[a 1 player]

I feel I need to quantify here...

I agree that Whitney has a much better voice than Dolly, that is indisputable. I said that I prefer the song as sung by Dolly Parton, big difference.

One can argue that there are a million people with great voices, (just watch American Idol, America's Got Talent, The Voice, or a million other talent shows), but the voice does not necessarily make the song. Robert Plant, Neil Young, and probably most popular recording artists would never have made it beyond the first round in any of those shows, yet they are known as the 'greats'. I just like the simplicity of the way Dolly preformed it, in the way she invisioned it. Nothing more that preference.

 

[a 1 player]

I'm not sure why people have so little sympathy for someone who was afflicted by an addiction. It's as much of a freakin' desease as anything. I quit smoking and that was fucking hard and I very nearly didn't do it, well I understand that with coke you can multiply that by 10. I doubt anyone wakes up in the morning and decides " for shits and giggles today I'm going to become a coke addict"

I digress - man she had some pipes and BTW I actually did fall on the floor when the tone deaf member suggested that the pale big boobed country singer could even sing in the same choir as WH :biggrin:

As an addict (clean for 10+ years now), sobering up is a choice. If one wants to do it, it CAN be done. God knows it isn't easy, but eventually the choice becomes life or death, nothing more than that.

 

[tboy]

Don't waste any money hanging up that shingle there T, Dr Phil you ain't :biggrin:

To help you get that dime-store degree perhaps you should start with this :

https://alcoholism.about.com/cs/drugs/f/drug_faq02.htm

No I'm not Dr Phil...but drug addiction is as much a "disease" as crime. As in "crime is a disease on society"...crime isn't a disease, crime are illegal acts contrary to law. You can't "catch" drug addition, you can't accidentally "become" an addict and you can't be born with it, (Unless of course your mother was an addict who used during the pregnancy). It isn't a genetic disease.....now you could be born with an addictive personality, or if both your parents were alcoholics you could be prone to that.

But I always look at it this way: if alcoholism is a disease, then why aren't there 3 yrs old alcoholics? (again, unless the mother was a raging alcoholic while she was carrying you). How many 3 yr olds do you know that have a shot of scotch for breakfast?

One last thing: If being a crack head is a disease, then when you walk by one on the street, why don't you become infected?

 

[LickingGravity]

One last thing: If being a crack head is a desease, then when you walk by one on the street, why don't you become infected?

Look I don't want to make this into a big argument but quite frankly you are wrong. The above sentence perhaps provides a clue. Perhaps you don't know the definition of a desease. From the above it would appear that you are under the mistaken impression that all deseases are contagious. Using your homespun approach that would mean cancer isn't a desease 'cause I can walk through Princess Margeret and not "catch" it.

Greater minds than yours or mine consider it a desease and no amount of you not wanting to believe is going to make it so. Your thoughts on this and alcoholism were popular in the '60's but few people still believe them. Therefore just admit you are wrong and we can dispense with this unsightly arguing:kissing:

 

[BuzzSaw]

I tend to believe that calling addictions a disease is a cop out. I'm not a scholar or Doctor by any means but in the end it's a choice. Where does the addiction lie in ones body? Is it a gene that creates the weakness in one or is it bad choices plain and simple.

I'm offered crack cocaine I walk away, which I have. If I tried it, then tried it one more time I may become a statistic or an addict but is it a disease I acquired or just a bone head move on my part to have tried it the first time and now becoming hooked because the high was so enjoyable?

One so called addiction that really gets under my skin is when a therapist claims one has a sexual addiction, especially when it comes to males I think this is ludicrous. We are hard wired going back to our ancestors that we seek out women and spread our seed dammit!!

 

[Transient]

Regardless of the reason, the result is the same, the loss of a previously talented performer way before her time. Rest in peace.

 

[tboy]

Look I don't want to make this into a big argument but quite frankly you are wrong. The above sentence perhaps provides a clue. Perhaps you don't know the definition of a desease. From the above it would appear that you are under the mistaken impression that all deseases are contagious. Using your homespun approach that would mean cancer isn't a desease 'cause I can walk through Princess Margeret and not "catch" it.

Greater minds than yours or mine consider it a desease and no amount of you not wanting to believe is going to make it so. Your thoughts on this and alcoholism were popular in the '60's but few people still believe them. Therefore just admit you are wrong and we can dispense with this unsightly arguing:kissing:

I didn't think we were arguing, I thought we were discussing?

I give you the cancer analogy, good point! No, I don't consider something to be a disease only if it contagious, I think my definition is more along the lines of something you didn't do to yourself. For eg: bungee jumping isn't a disease, running across the 401 isn't a disease, obesity isn't a disease as it is a direct result of your actions whether you can control them or not.

As Buzzsaw stated: you cannot be a crackhead unless you knowingly smoke crack (there is some argument as to whether you can become addicted the first time).

As for better minds, there are better minds that openly state that global warming isn't real either......just saying....

 

[tboy]

Regardless of the reason, the result is the same, the loss of a previously talented performer way before her time. Rest in peace.

Like Amy Winehouse....with the life she was leading, I think her time was appropriate given her life choices.....

 

[jumpingjackflash]

I think the loss of anyone under the age of 80 is tragic except for murders and children molesters of course.

She will be missed by many. We've lost some real superstars due to drug abuse lately.

Another example was Michael Jackson although some will argue he was a child molester.

 

[Coxwell]

Whitney will live on through her music. She influenced a whole generation of singers and helped open doors that were previously closed to them.

That being said, I also prefer Dolly's version. I can't say why, it's just more pleasing to my ears.

 

[SillyGirl]

I'm finding nicotine harder to quit than cocaine was. When I was younger I drank like a fish, now I usually don't drink much. Although right now I'm trashed for the second time in two days, xanax works great when you wash it down with Bahama Mamas!

oh is drink like a fish one of those annoying expressions? I guess fish don't really drink much. Sorry if that pissed anyone off.

 

[Maurice Boscorelli]

I'm finding nicotine harder to quit than cocaine was. When I was younger I drank like a fish, now I usually don't drink much. Although right now I'm trashed for the second time in two days, xanax works great when you wash it down with Bahama Mamas!
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Sweetie please don't mix Xanax with alcohol. Although not life threatening it will hit you like a truck.

 

[SillyGirl]

Sweetie please don't mix Xanax with alcohol. Although not life threatening it will hit you like a truck.

Too late! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!

I do sense a nap in my near future, though.