Agency Security - Your feedback is appreciated

[Fuggedabouditt]

Fugged,

There's been several sexual assaults at local MP's here in Edmonton. Most of he studios have cameras, staff, security, ect...unfortunately that has not prevented bad things from happening in Edmonton.

CrissyCurves is right. Fugged, I think you're looking for an easy answer. The majority of agencies operating around the world keeps adding and changing their security measure. The bad guys keep seeking opportunities to compromise them.

I'm not looking for an "easy" answer. I'm looking for ANY answer. Again, crickets....

Where prostitution is legal, there are security measures like video cameras and panic buttons in each room. Yes, there will still be incidents. What I don't think people are getting is the silence from agencies tells me they have nothing and the promises on advertisements for employment, are false. Prove me wrong, I'd love that, but I know I'm right.

I'm willing to drop this, but it tells me what I already know from the silence. It's a shame because in my eyes, if you don't provide ANYTHING to your ladies besides take their money and provide a room (and *** has "hotel/room fees" they charge their ladies....really?) you're nothing but a pimp.

 

[Fiddy]

Fugged,

i don't think the ladies need clients trying to be cape crusaders coming to the rescue. They just need us to focus our energy on being good clients for ourselves.

If you look at all of the cape crusaders on CAF in Alberta. They do far more harm than good. Some of them need to seek professional help. They've lossed their minds endless obsessing about everything that happens in the escorting world 24/7/365.

Worry about the one thing you have control over. You and every interaction you have with the ladies.

Have faith the the ladies can take care of their own saftey. The industry has come along way. The ladies are fully capable of dealing with these issues without interference from clients.

From all all my experience in Alberta, I can honesty tell you clients always make things 100% worse when they try to interfere with things going on behind the scenes.

 

[cristycurves]

I don't (continue) to see ladies who are at risk and by that, I mean if I sense they are being pimped out, are not fit for the industry or supporting a habit (that I know of). I'm actually very selective of who I see and within seconds, I can tell if she is there to have fun and make a few dollars or the exact opposite. I have run in to those in the opposite light and will not go through with the session. I usually don't see them around for long anyway.

You're right about not being to stop anyone if they're set to harm someone. No one is or we'd live in a Utopian society with no crime.

I AM calling out agencies. If they don't respond, then perhaps I've done my job to let them know they're not delivering what they promise these ladies when they advertise. Perhaps I've let a few ladies know (who might be thinking of getting in to this industry) that it's not all bunnies and butterflies.

I'm still calling out agency owners (besides SFT) to have their input but I hear crickets.

But as it's already been said, what agency would come on here and identify how they secure they're premises, or what other measures they use to ensure a ladies safety?
I have worked for agency's in the past, and what caused me to pick the ones I decided to go with had nothing to do with how they secured their premises, or how they operated, quite frankly, I wanted to work with the one that drew in the most business. When a girl/woman, chooses an agency that's usually what it boils down to ....cash in hand, and most of us are aware, no one is looking out for our safety other than ourselves. This is a business where most people are in it for themselves, even clients.

 

[Jessica Rain]

I don't (continue) to see ladies who are at risk and by that, I mean if I sense they are being pimped out, are not fit for the industry or supporting a habit (that I know of). I'm actually very selective of who I see and within seconds, I can tell if she is there to have fun and make a few dollars or the exact opposite. I have run in to those in the opposite light and will not go through with the session. I usually don't see them around for long anyway.

I would think that is something that is needed more in agencies and sadly, I don't think many owners concern themselves with those issues unless those issues are affecting the SPs work. This is where most of my concern would be. I have seen way to many women doing this job not because of their free choice but because of some type of addiction {drugs, booze, shopping, gambling etc} that needs feeding.

I will say that I know you want your answers but again, if I owed an agency, and even as an Indy, there are precautions that I take that I will not discuss as I don't need some bad client knowing them and using them against me.

Also, and I sorry to bring this up, but in reality, who are you and why do any agencies have to answer you? I mean this in the nicest way possible but you are a random no-name on a review board. You can keep "calling them out" all you want, but you are not entitled to an answer. You are not that important. None of us are.

 

[Madman]

I have to agree with Fiddy, Jessica and Cristy Fugged. You are sticking your nose into something that doesn't concern you except to vote with your $$$$...You don't like an agency's model, don't use them. if the agency model over all doesn't appeal to you stick with indies and leave it at that.

Respectfully, I'm surprised agencies if they have your number have not blacklisted you yet.

 

[Fuggedabouditt]

But as it's already been said, what agency would come on here and identify how they secure they're premises, or what other measures they use to ensure a ladies safety?
I have worked for agency's in the past, and what caused me to pick the ones I decided to go with had nothing to do with how they secured their premises, or how they operated, quite frankly, I wanted to work with the one that drew in the most business. When a girl/woman, chooses an agency that's usually what it boils down to ....cash in hand, and most of us are aware, no one is looking out for our safety other than ourselves. This is a business where most people are in it for themselves, even clients.

Very true unfortunately.

 

[Fuggedabouditt]

I would think that is something that is needed more in agencies and sadly, I don't think many owners concern themselves with those issues unless those issues are affecting the SPs work. This is where most of my concern would be. I have seen way to many women doing this job not because of their free choice but because of some type of addiction {drugs, booze, shopping, gambling etc} that needs feeding.

I will say that I know you want your answers but again, if I owed an agency, and even as an Indy, there are precautions that I take that I will not discuss as I don't need some bad client knowing them and using them against me.

Also, and I sorry to bring this up, but in reality, who are you and why do any agencies have to answer you? I mean this in the nicest way possible but you are a random no-name on a review board. You can keep "calling them out" all you want, but you are not entitled to an answer. You are not that important. None of us are.

Very true. I am no one in the grand scheme of things. I think I speak for some, but not all. Safety has always been a huge concern for me because I've lived an at risk life when I was younger. I've dated SP's who've been harmed. I've been harmed. I have a bit of a white knight syndrome when it comes to this. I don't mean to upset the masses, but I mean to upset the agencies who are "in it for themselves".

 

[Jessica Rain]

Very true. I am no one in the grand scheme of things. I think I speak for some, but not all. Safety has always been a huge concern for me because I've lived an at risk life when I was younger. I've dated SP's who've been harmed. I've been harmed. I have a bit of a white knight syndrome when it comes to this. I don't mean to upset the masses, but I mean to upset the agencies who are "in it for themselves".

I totally get and respect where you are coming.

 

[Fuggedabouditt]

I have to agree with Fiddy, Jessica and Cristy Fugged. You are sticking your nose into something that doesn't concern you except to vote with your $$$$...You don't like an agency's model, don't use them. if the agency model over all doesn't appeal to you stick with indies and leave it at that.

Respectfully, I'm surprised agencies if they have your number have not blacklisted you yet.

I don't use those agencies that I have issue with, that's a given for the educated. If the ladies I've favourited are still with those said agencies, I no longer see them for obvious reasons, I'd rather throw my money out my car window on the 401 than to fund a pimp's lifestyle.

And you're right, they probably have blacklisted my number if I've given them an issue or voiced my displeasure. I don't really care.

As I said, I can drop this as I think my thread has served it's purpose and I don't care if I've upset some...come see me and discuss this face to face, I guarantee you, you won't win.

 

[Madman]

As I said, I can drop this as I think my thread has served it's purpose and I don't care if I've upset some...come see me and discuss this face to face, I guarantee you, you won't win.

Be-careful what you wish for and I'm not saying this from my POV because I'm a lover not a fighter:biggrin2: just be safe out there both ladies and gents.

 

[Fuggedabouditt]

Be-careful what you wish for and I'm not saying this from my POV because I'm a lover not a fighter:biggrin2: just be safe out there both ladies and gents.

I'm too stupid to be afraid of anyone.

 

[Jasper]

...come see me and discuss this face to face, I guarantee you, you won't win.

A threat when you're demanding security feedback could be one reason for the sound of crickets.
:blush2:

 

[Fuggedabouditt]

I totally get and respect where you are coming.

:kissing:

 

[Fuggedabouditt]

A threat when you're demanding security feedback could be one reason for the sound of crickets.
:blush2:

It didn't start out as a threat and still isn't. To demand an answer that affects safety and security, which if you have never been in those shoes, is a daily, hourly concern, is a "taboo" that requires some response.

You have no idea the relief on a lady's mind when she sees a regular and not an unknown, I don't either, but they've shared this with me. To see the elation on her face when I come through the door or they come through mine is a great feeling that she feels safe with me and genuinely happy to see me.

Indies who screen, do their best and my kudos to them who don't back down when someone refuses to submit the required info. To those that refuse, go fuck yourself. If you really want to see this lady, then make out like you really do. To the rest is who this goes out to. Agency ladies don't really have a say on the front lines of who books an appointment. They do have last say and refuse when at the door. Again, I refer back to a very well reviewed lady who is in the midst of retirement, who refused someone at the door and caused a whole shitstorm of accusations but some do get past that.

 

[Fiddy]

Fugged,

Clients gossip too much to trust them with any information about security processes agency/Indy/otherwise.

If an SP tells client X private info about her screening process, within a week 200 other clients will know because Client X will have chatted with his buddies Y and M. Y and M chat with all their other buddies in the Alphabet.

Within 2-weeks of gossiping 1500 clients will know all about the screening process being used by that SP. Client 1501 happens to be one of those dangerous clients we all worry about.

Client 1501 has everything he needs to bypass the SP's security measures and now has an opportunity to do harm.

Clients don't keep things to themsleves as represented by many drama threads on the boards over the years.

An SP sharing her security information with a client may actually putting herself in danger. It won't be the client she told. It might be client 1501 who's a dangerous predator.

 

[Fuggedabouditt]

Fugged,

Clients gossip too much to trust them with any information about security processes agency/Indy/otherwise.

If an SP tells client X private info about her screening process, within a week 200 other clients will know because Client X will have chatted with his buddies Y and M. Y and M chat with all their other buddies in the Alphabet.

Within 2-weeks of gossiping 1500 clients will know all about the screening process being used by that SP. Client 1501 happens to be one of those dangerous clients we all worry about.

Client 1501 has everything he needs to bypass the SP's security measures and now has an opportunity to do harm.

Clients don't keep things to themsleves as represented by many drama threads on the boards over the years.

An SP sharing her security information with a client may actually putting herself in danger. It won't be the client she told. It might be client 1501 who's a dangerous predator.

I'm not talking about indies. They have their screening process, some don't like BP ladies.

This was aimed strictly at agencies.

Another discussion for gossip amongst hobbiest. From what I've been told by the majority of SP's, the amount of clients that come from social media and review boards is NOT a great number. Yeah, there are internal sewing circles here where people talk behind the scenes; I know. This is where the real info is kept and not spoken to in public circles, and this goes for EVERY SUBJECT. Y'all want legitimacy in this industry, then get out from under the covers and closed doors and bring it.

 

[Fiddy]

Honesty Fugged,

I've lost count of the the number of protest threads posted by clients on the review boards over the years. The one thing they all have in common, none of those protest threads have ever fixed, solved or changed anything.

Go find a great lady and have some fun tonight. Quit worrying about things you have zero control over.

 

[Fuggedabouditt]

Honesty Fugged,

I've lost count of the the number of protest threads posted by clients on the review boards over the years. The one thing they all have in common, none of those protest threads have ever fixed, solved or changed anything.

Go find a great lady and have some fun tonight. Quit worrying about things you have zero control over.

Quit telling me what to do.

 

[Fiddy]

Okay Fugged. You're on your on own.

 

[Fuggedabouditt]

Okay Fugged. You're on your on own.

Always have been. Your help was not needed or requested.