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With all that is going on in Hollywood right now, I thought I would bring up this article because it is very real, and ask opinions in these situations.

'He Was Masturbating… I Felt Like Crying': What Housekeepers Endure To Clean Hotel Rooms

Cecilia was working as a minibar attendant at a Chicago hotel when she knocked on the guest’s door and announced herself. The man’s response was quick and unequivocal: “You can come in.”

When she opened the door, “He was at the computer, masturbating,” Cecilia recalled. She was overcome with shock and embarrassment. Judging from the satisfied look on the man’s face, that was the whole idea.

“I felt nasty,” recalled Cecilia, who asked that her last name and the hotel not be identified. “You’d expect that to happen to people in a jail but not in regular work. I felt like crying.”

It wasn’t the only time Cecilia had dealt with extreme forms of sexual harassment in her three decades working in downtown hotels. A male guest once answered her knock by opening the door naked. Just a month and a half ago, a younger colleague confided to Cecilia that a male guest had tried to embrace her while she was in his room. Cecilia escorted the shaken housekeeper to the hotel’s security team to report the incident.

Since the allegations against movie producer Harvey Weinstein were first revealed last month, more and more women have stepped forward with stories of sexual harassment and assault at work. Their b**********y in speaking out has toppled powerful men’s careers in Hollywood, Silicon Valley and Washington. But much less attention has been paid to the rampant harassment in blue-collar workplaces, particularly the hotel industry.

Many of the stories that have hit front pages ― Weinstein, journalist Mark Halperin, comedian Louis C.K. ― center on powerful men who preyed on underlings or colleagues in hotel rooms ― a trend that would surprise no woman who’s ever worked as a housekeeper. If famous A-list actresses must deal with unwanted advances in the privacy of a hotel suite, imagine the vulnerability of an immigrant woman cleaning the room alone, for close to minimum wage, plus tips.

“Frankly, I don’t think much of the public understands what housekeepers go through just to clean these rooms and carry out the work,” said Maria Elena Durazo, a labor leader with the hospitality union Unite Here.

For several years Durazo’s union has advocated for housekeepers to be given handheld, wireless panic buttons that can alert hotel security when a worker feels threatened ― a sign of how dire it views the problem of sexual predation in the hotel industry. After working to negotiate the use of panic buttons in their employer contracts, the union is now lobbying city councils to mandate them through legislation so that all workers have access to them, union and non-union alike.

But, according to Durazo, the panic buttons only go so far in addressing the more fundamental problem: an imbalance of economic power between perpetrators and their victims, especially when the victims are working in or near poverty. “We have to do something to equalize the power so that women really have the ability to speak up, without having to risk their livelihood,” she said. “That goes for whether you’re a housekeeper or a food server or a big-time actor.”

Last year, Unite Here surveyed roughly 500 of its Chicago area members who work in hotels and casinos as housekeepers and servers, many of them Latino and Asian immigrants. The results were disturbing:

58 percent of hotel workers and 77 percent of casino workers said they had been sexually harassed by a guest.

49 percent of hotel workers said they had experienced a guest answering the door naked or otherwise exposing himself.

56 percent of hotel workers who’d reported harassment said they didn’t feel safe on the job afterward.

65 percent of casino cocktail servers said a guest had touched or tried to touch them without permission.

Nearly 40 percent of casino workers said they’d been pressured for a date or a sexual favor.


Nereyda Soto, 25, was working in a hotel restaurant in Long Beach, Calif., two years ago when a guest’s attention over several days started to feel like stalking. The man repeatedly called Soto over to his table whenever he dined in the restaurant, asking her personal questions, such as whether she had a boyfriend. Relatively new to the job at the time, Soto didn’t feel comfortable telling a paying guest to buzz off.

When Soto came by his table to collect the man’s check one night, she found a hotel key card along with his payment. “He said, ‘I’d love to see how you look outside this uniform. You should meet me in my room.’”

Soto was mortified, but she didn’t tell her boss at the time.

“I didn’t tell management, and I didn’t tell security, because he didn’t technically touch me and the customer is always right in this industry,” Soto explained. Even if she did report it, she didn’t expect her company would do anything about it, and she didn’t want to come off as a troublemaker: “I didn’t want my name to be out there. So I just let it go.”

The experience got Soto involved in a campaign in Long Beach to bring panic buttons to the city’s hotel workers. Led by labor groups, the idea of outfitting housekeepers with a way to alert hotel security started to catch on in 2011, after French politician Dominique Strauss-Kahn was accused of assaulting a housekeeper at a New York hotel. The following year, the New York Hotel Trades Council won a contract for 30,000 workers that guaranteed the use of panic buttons for housekeepers covered under the agreement.


In Long Beach, Soto’s union took a different tack: They tried to win the panic buttons through legislation so that the protections would be extended to all of the city’s hotel workers, not just those covered by a union contract. The local chamber of commerce campaigned against the regulation, estimating that compliance would collectively cost affected hotels about $3 million. After a yearlong effort, the Long Beach City Council narrowly rejected the panic button proposal in a 5-4 vote in September.

A similar panic button measure Unite Here pushed in Chicago fared much better. The City Council passed a “Hands Off, Pants On” ordinance last month, which requires hotels to outfit housekeepers and others who work alone in guest rooms or bathrooms with panic buttons by July 1, 2018. It also requires hotels to develop sexual harassment policies that show workers how to report incidents and provide them with time to file complaints with the police.

Unlike the union contract workers secured in New York, the Chicago ordinance will apply to hotels citywide, regardless of whether workers are in a union. It’s the first piece of legislation of its kind enacted in the U.S.

The Chicago campaign probably got a boost from the findings of its member survey on harassment, which Jorge Ramirez, president of the Chicago Federation of Labor, said he found “astonishing.” Ramirez said the city’s hotel lobby didn’t actively fight the measure. The new national conversation about sexual harassment at work will make it harder to do so, he predicted.

“We didn’t see them out there with pompoms, but they didn’t speak out against it, either,” Ramirez said. “I think the industry would have a hard time opposing this, especially with everything that’s come to light in the last few months.”

The housekeepers wore “No Harveys in Chicago” T-shirts to mark the ordinance’s passage. Among those celebrating was Cecilia, who had spent months rallying her colleagues around the cause. She hopes the new panic buttons will bring a sense of safety to workers like the young housekeeper she helped not even two months ago.

“It’s more security, and more support,” Cecilia said. “Trust me. You shouldn’t be scared to work.”

Thoughts???
 
I do feel sorry for these people.

58 percent of hotel workers and 77 percent of casino workers said they had been sexually harassed by a guest.

49 percent of hotel workers said they had experienced a guest answering the door naked or otherwise exposing himself.

56 percent of hotel workers who’d reported harassment said they didn’t feel safe on the job afterward.

65 percent of casino cocktail servers said a guest had touched or tried to touch them without permission.

Nearly 40 percent of casino workers said they’d been pressured for a date or a sexual favor.
 
It's a shame that lots of guys can't separate fantasy from reality. One of my favorite stories from asstr.org is about a flirtatious maid and a guest. But of course those kinds of things don't really happen in the real world. My first sexual encounter happened in a hotel, so personally I do have fantasies around this. But thank God I can separate reality and fantasy.

If anyone is interested, the link is here. The story is called The Maid.

Maria's Stories
 
Whatever happened to respect others the way you want to be respected?. These imbeciles are giving us perverts a bad name. Keep your dick away until she approves that you can take it out, that simple.
 
I worked in a casino as a dealer years ago and never saw any female lady getting harassed. How could they, there are more cameras than employees. But have heard multiple times about the abuse those working in the hotel industry. It's easy to abuse the weak and those that cannot communicate well enough, day but true.
 
Sexual harassment has to be better defined otherwise might as well jail most for being uneducated, mean spirit, selfish and plane rude.

A man masturbating near his computer when he tells her to come in. Sexual harassment?. No, just one or a few individuals that get a kick out of enjoying others watching him. No, not right and none should have to bear with that but it happens.

A man opening the door naked for the poor soul to watch. Sexual harassment?. No another sick man that gets his kicks from it and better suited to spend the rest of his life in a mental hospital.

I'd love how you look outside your uniform. Sexual harassment?. No, just another jerk thinking he is smarter than he is and wants to get laid. Poor judgement on his part, but like I said. He is a jerk.

On and on an on. I would like to find out what you all believe what sexual harassment is or means to you before I continue.


Like my dad always said. Get an education so you don't have to deal with idiots.
 
Sexual harassment has to be better defined otherwise might as well jail most for being uneducated, mean spirit, selfish and plane rude.

A man masturbating near his computer when he tells her to come in. Sexual harassment?. No, just one or a few individuals that get a kick out of enjoying others watching him. No, not right and none should have to bear with that but it happens.

A man opening the door naked for the poor soul to watch. Sexual harassment?. No another sick man that gets his kicks from it and better suited to spend the rest of his life in a mental hospital.

I'd love how you look outside your uniform. Sexual harassment?. No, just another jerk thinking he is smarter than he is and wants to get laid. Poor judgement on his part, but like I said. He is a jerk.

On and on an on. I would like to find out what you all believe what sexual harassment is or means to you before I continue.


Like my dad always said. Get an education so you don't have to deal with idiots.

Well everyone is entitled to their own POV.
 
I have to disagree with you about these situations. These women coming to the room aren't expecting a naked or masturbating guest. In both cases, the men are probably doing it to get a reaction out of the woman....and there is where I believe the sexual harassment lies. A woman who walks into a male strip club and complains about the nudity is just being ridiculous....she should have know what to expect. An employee that is attending to a guest and is exposed to nudity or sexual activity where it's not expected and is done for the reaction is being harassed. Whether it's sexual or just for shock value, there's no understanding that she should expect to see that.

I'd ask....what if the roles were reversed....but guys generally wouldn't mind if some woman answered the door naked or were masturbating in the room. But perhaps if it was another man that opened the door naked in front of you (as the employee) or was sitting there masturbating when you brought room service, you might think differently.

Just my thoughts....think what you wish.


Fair enough, why it's called an opinion.
 
The outrage is dangerous. Yes it is wrong but come on, grow a pair. Someone does something inappropriate, tell them to FUCK OFF and belittle them. No need to delve and over dramatize it all.
 
The outrage is dangerous. Yes it is wrong but come on, grow a pair. Someone does something inappropriate, tell them to FUCK OFF and belittle them. No need to delve and over dramatize it all.


Yes and no.

When no does not work and it becomes abuse we need take that seriously.
 
It's a shame that lots of guys can't separate fantasy from reality. One of my favorite stories from asstr.org is about a flirtatious maid and a guest. But of course those kinds of things don't really happen in the real world. My first sexual encounter happened in a hotel, so personally I do have fantasies around this. But thank God I can separate reality and fantasy.

If anyone is interested, the link is here. The story is called The Maid.

Maria's Stories

Thanks for the story, and I agree. Sad when people can't separate the two. Nothing wrong with fantasy or trying to make it reality, but come on... just whipping it out:LMAO:

Giving all guys a bad reputation. Keep it in your pants until she asks for it! How difficult is this?!
Bingo!

Whatever happened to respect others the way you want to be respected?. These imbeciles are giving us perverts a bad name. Keep your dick away until she approves that you can take it out, that simple.

Bingo x2

I doubt your take can bring it up to the courts. Lacking facts.

I have no idea what you were trying to say. It is not my "take" either BTW. Just an article.....

Sexual harassment has to be better defined otherwise might as well jail most for being uneducated, mean spirit, selfish and plane rude.

A man masturbating near his computer when he tells her to come in. Sexual harassment?. No, just one or a few individuals that get a kick out of enjoying others watching him. No, not right and none should have to bear with that but it happens.

A man opening the door naked for the poor soul to watch. Sexual harassment?. No another sick man that gets his kicks from it and better suited to spend the rest of his life in a mental hospital.

I'd love how you look outside your uniform. Sexual harassment?. No, just another jerk thinking he is smarter than he is and wants to get laid. Poor judgement on his part, but like I said. He is a jerk.

On and on an on. I would like to find out what you all believe what sexual harassment is or means to you before I continue.


Like my dad always said. Get an education so you don't have to deal with idiots.

A man masturbating near his computer when he tells her to come in. Sexual harassment? Yes. 100%. EOD.

A man opening the door naked for the poor soul to watch. Sexual harassment? Yes. 100%. EOD.

These are the very definition of sexual harassment. Stupid, ignorant, etc Yes, but also sexual harassment.

I agree education is needed, however. Maybe if more understand that this is indeed sexual harassment, they may stop being so stupid.

I'd love how you look outside your uniform. Sexual harassment? No-ish. In the workplace, by your boss - Yes. But for the average person. No. Just an asshole. I will give you that.

The outrage is dangerous. Yes it is wrong but come on, grow a pair. Someone does something inappropriate, tell them to FUCK OFF and belittle them. No need to delve and over dramatize it all.

I agree except in this power dynamic, the customer is always right and the lady is losing her job if she does this. So this is not always an option. Which is part of what makes it harassment.

Respectful disagreement! Here on this board?! WTF dude?!!!!

:biggrin2:

I am as shocked as you.
 
She was a sexy women on her youth. I reckon she also got where she is today by sleeping with a few of them.

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There's no excuse for a man to put his hands on a woman without her permission regardless of how she dresses. How she acts may be a little different depending on what she's doing to possibly encourage a man.

But as far as a man LOOKING....I agree. If you dress for attention, you might get some attention you don't want. Don't wear a plunging neckline and then complain that men look at your chest. That's the nature of men. Should the men stare? Probably not.....as far as manners go. Should the men cat-call? Probably not....as far as manners go. Should the men ever touch her believing that sexy outfits are an invitation? NEVER. Let the woman actually ask for physical contact before you touch her in any way. Then you should be okay.

Don't blame the victims. We all know the rules and one of the first learned in kindergarten or even preschool is "Keep your hands to yourselves".


But at the same time... If you wear expensive jewelry, clothes and drive an expensive car and flash cash while in a known "bad" neighborhood, you are not going to get a ton of sympathy when you get robbed. The thieves have absolutely no right to take anything that someone else owns.....but we still put some responsibility on the idiots who flashed wealth in the wrong part of town. Should a woman be able to walk around in a bikini, dancing and shaking her body around without having to worry about anyone touching her? Yes. But at the same time, she is increasing the odds that someone will break the rules and touch her if she dressed and behaving in a provocative way. That just seems like common sense.


That's my 2 cents.

Yep......
 
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