I was gonna let this part go, but I just can't.
Sorry, but did you witness your friends making an effort then getting shot down? You believe your friends are being honest about it, why is it so hard to believe 3's friends are doing the same?
Just because something is outside the realm of your personal experience or knowledge doesn't mean it doesn't exist. In fact 3 herself is living proof that sexual wives are out there....maybe your friends could take a lesson from Sentry. I'll bet he looks up and says hello when she walks in the room.
Two-way street, Tboy. Two-way street.
Well actually, yes I DID witness some indicators of them being shot down and experienced it first hand with....at least FIVE relationships.
Here's an example: I used to hang around with a gang of about 10. Mixed of guys and girls. Most of which got into and out of various relationships over the 10 yrs I was involved with them. In fact, I went to 5 or 6 weddings over that 10 yrs period. You can see the relationship change as it progressed. They'd all be touchy feely lovely dovely at the beginning then you'd see him go to put his arm around her and she'd shrug him off.
During this time we'd go camping, cottaging, and sharing ski chalets. Especially while tenting you can't really hide anything. And the cottage we'd go to (a mutual friend's) had paper thin walls so you couldn't help but hear what was being said.
Now I'm not talking about 3 or 4 instances. If that was the case then yeah, you could say that maybe they were exaggerating. But when there are scientific studies proving the issue, women actually admitting the issue, and having experienced it myself, well, you can pretty much say "this happens"......
As for the blow jobs, once again, sure, maybe they DO in fact still give em. But how often? Once a month? a year on his birthday?
As for kids. No, thank GOD I haven't had any. But seriously, you don't have to bend the bedsprings to have sex and yell at the top of your lungs. In fact, it can be quite erotic to have to keep quiet. For example: I had sex with a GF once and her gf was in the next bed not 2 feet away and she never woke up.
Sure, you could also say that it was trying getting the baby to sleep after x hrs. Hence why I say women become mothers as opposed to gfs. A great example of this is when a group of girls start having kids. Before, the topic of the conversation was, guys, clothes, current events, concerts, restaurants, clothes, TV shows, clothes...then get 2 babies in the group and the ONLY topic is baby baby baby baby clothes, baby toys, baby suppies, diapers, don't do that you might wake the baby, don't do that, the baby might see, don't do that the baby this, the baby farted for the first time, the baby burped for the first time blah blah blah blah.