bobistheowl said:
Transient, I don't like you.
I'm not saying that I dislike you, but my opinion of you is less than neutral. I don't see that ever changing. I will give you my reasons.
1) You have shown me that you will do things specifically because you have been asked to not do them.
2) You will continue to do those same things, even after being asked to stop.
3) You will make a half-assed apology, forgive yourself, and do the same thing again, shortly afterwards, with a short interval of time, in lieu of remorse.
Most of those posts in the TV Trivia thread were meant to be self-deprecating, bobistheowl, and was trying to joke around with you the same as I do with Madman. You didn’t get it. I saw it got under your skin and I continued.
For that, my apology was sincere in the TV Trivia thread, bobistheowl but you stormed off the court rather than continuing the game. I decided to ignore you for the most part and only engaged again after you posted the images of Art Mann. Then demanding some sort of “penance” by moving threads, well, fuck that.
bobistheowl said:
4) You make assumptions of motives, and draw conclusions based on those assumptions, usually by assuming that my motivations would be the same as yours would have been. For example, you think I care a lot about whether or not a lot of people read my posts. I really don't. I make a post when I feel like writing, or if I want to say something. If people want to read it, they will. If they don't, they won't. I just wanted to write it, and give them the option.
5) You justify your actions by mentioning the things that you give, as if that generosity on your part gives you an entitlement to take something from someone else in return. To me, this is like the guy who tells his civvie date that she owes him a blow job, because he paid for her lobster dinner. It's great that you make things for other people, but you didn't make them for me, and I didn't deface your work, but you did that to mine.
6) You offer advice when it has not been asked for, and when it is not needed, but your instructions are in-explicit; you know things, but are unable to teach them to other people, or chose not to.
There were no assumptions to your motives when you posted 3 GIFs of Art Mann. Contained in each of those posts you lauded about how difficult the task was creating it and if anyone wanted to know how you accomplished such a feat. To me, this is like showing up at a funeral and only talking about the new tailored suit you were wearing.
The reason you made the GIF was because Sarah said she felt sad after seeing Art’s avatar or handle on the IM chat bar and knew the light would never turn green. So, you post the very item that made her feel sad.
OK, posting it once is understandable, but then to make the GIF and post it 3 times in different areas of the forum, and each time patting yourself on the back about it, spoke about how self-centered your actions actually were. You clearly don't understand you were using an image of a friend that was recently lost to regale your accomplishment.
You also stated that it took you hours to research and create the TV thread and how appreciation was not shown for your efforts. I stated that I too have invested time into the forum but do not look for any appreciation or acknowledgment because the site is meant to be fun. I do so for my own amusement and if it is enjoyed by others, that's a bonus. Your number 5) above, is pulled directly out of your imagination.
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Transient said:
...I think I speak for many (if not, please correct me) in saying that these statements are pompous, arrogant, and will undoubtedly open you up as a target.
Communication is a two-way street bob, if you want to be understood, speak to your audience, not down to your audience.
There is a guideline some of us engineers try to follow: K.I.S.S. (keep it simple, stupid). The "stupid" here is not directed at you from me, but at yourself when you repeat this saying as a reminder.
bobistheowl said:
I don't believe in pandering to the lowest common denominator. If people don't understand what I'm saying, they should not read my posts, (the long ones are usually written between midnight and dawn, when no one else is here).
I get the impression that a lot of people think they have some sort of obligation to read everyone's posts in every thread, as if this was high school twitter. Somebody says "I don't have five minutes to read that. Do you know how much paint I could watch dry in five minutes, or how many times I could refresh my browser in that time, while awaiting the next piece of fluff?" People ave time to read along piece I write, when they're waiting for someone else to post something.
No one feels the obligation to read your posts, bobistheowl.
bobistheowl said:
Communication is only a two way street, if it happens at the same time. Most of the time, I'm here when other people aren't, so I can't interact with them in real time.
Maybe you think the formatting is pompous, but that's for people who may want to read some paragraphs, but not all of them, and other people might want to read different ones, or no one wants to read it. Once I've written it, my part is done, unless someone quotes me. Just because my light is green, doesn't mean I'm participating, and I think people should cut their own meat, instead if having it served in bite size chunks.
If I exclude people who either aren't very intelligent, or don't read quickly, or read too quickly, or are intimidated by having to use a scroll bar to read a whole post, then good, people should scroll past my post, without reading it. It would not be a good investment of their time.
Communication is a two-way street, bobistheowl, otherwise you're like someone who puts up a billboard in the middle of the night with the expectation that no one will understand it in the morning. The formatting is not pompous, just annoying, the content is pompous.
bobistheowl said:
7) You like to tell me helpful tips so that I can become more like you, as if that would be a self improvement, but I don't want to be like you, any more than you do.
8) I get the impression that you think a lot of my posts are meant for you. That's false. If I quote you, the reply is for you. Otherwise, it's not, but you can read it, if you want to.
The last thing I want for anyone is to be like me. Be yourself but, not so much of an ass. For you to say “You like to tell me helpful tips..”, I do not enjoy doing that bobistheowl, I would think it would not have to be pointed out to another adult.
bobistheowl said:
To me, you're not an individual, you're a type. I know lots of guys like you, in life, and online, and I don't like any of them, either. You're audiopimp on another board, not literally, but you guys are pretty much exactly the same.
I don’t know who you are referencing, but I will not take it as flattery. You’re a type also bobistheowl, arrogant, self-centered, pompous and out to prove his worth is greater than those around him.
bobistheowl said:
I see you as what I would call a 'closeted heterosexual', in that, you're not gay, but people frequently presume that you are. You're the guy who has a bitter streak, because he was born with no game, and failed to acquire one. If you see a pretty woman, you aspire to enter her friend zone. You set your goals low, so that you can always achieve them easily.
Not sure where you are getting any of this, but you are free to play armchair-psychologist and make any assumptions to fit your vision of my universe, but I don’t think it is time well spent.
bobistheowl said:
If you were an IT guy, and someone asked you how to do something, you would quickly do it for them, but not show them how they could do it themselves next time. You're the guy who starts talking to me on the elevator, we have a conversation for a moment, and when one of us exits, a guy says to me "Who is that?", and I say "I don't know".
I am in software, bobistheowl and what you call “pandering to the lowest common denominator” I call “operating procedure”: instructions that need to be understood by all. Clearly you feel you need to write in obfuscation and reference and to do otherwise is “dumbing youself down”. As I stated if you want to be understood, talk to your audience not down to it. It’s advice, bobistheowl, you can take it or leave it, either way you choose.
bobistheowl said:
You would be the guy who told me his name a few times, but I keep forgetting it, not as disrespect, but because it's not important enough to me to remember. If we both worked in the same office, and that office took birthdays seriously, I would put a looney in the envelope, sign just my name on the card, and not stop working when they served cake.
That’s exactly why my name is Transient, bobistheowl. I chose the name for the Buddhist concept of impermanence - existence is fleeting and all things pass. There will be a day when I log on for the last time and I would prefer that day leave no one sad. I am not a practicing Buddhist, but I like the concept.
bobistheowl said:
For the birthday of an admin assistant that I liked personally, regardless of her appearance, I would usually throw in $10, 15, or $20, and that would usually be more than anyone else, including management. When I was in my cubicle drone days, we had one secretary for five people in my area, and she spent about half of her time typing my stuff, and I would usually spend about $80 on a Christmas gift for her, and the other four might all sign the same card.
Good for you sir. “
Regardless of her appearance”, well that says volumes about you.
bobistheowl said:
Since I find your personality, or my conception of your personality, unappealing, I would not chose you as a friend. You don't have much to offer that interests me.
I do have one thing that would interest you, bobistheowl. GIMP. Look into it. It will save you “hours” in your image manipulations.
bobistheowl said:
This doesn't mean that I will seek out opportunities to confront you, but it does mean that I will also not seek out opportunities to interact with you. We'll cross threads from time to time, as we have, and I'll be civil with you, but not friendly. To me, you're a handle that writes things, words in a post, nothing more.
Lighten up bobistheowl, stop taking yourself so seriously. I will do my best to ignore you bob, but I cannot promise to hold my tongue if you post something that I find particularly distasteful. I also would not expect you to hold back your thoughts, should I post something you dislike.
The New Year is approaching and I wish you the very best of each and every day.
