- Thread starter Madman
- Start date
bobistheowl
BANNED
- Joined
- Oct 14, 2014
- Messages
- 1,935
@ oldguyzer: You misunderstand the majority of my posts, or at least, pretend to. This is because you're drawing conclusions based on assumptions, rather than evidence. I'm going to take a bit of time to explain some of it.
I write entertainment. Some of it is 100% factual. Some of it is 100% bullshit. Some of it is 100% opinion, which may or may not be based on fact. Some of it is opinions that I do not personally believe. Many of them combine elements of the above.
Much of it is written exclusively for the benefit of one, or a small group of specific, individuals, but everyone else can read it, if they want to. The fact that most people cannot tell which of those categories a specific post falls under is the motive.
Let's start with the 'bust a slump' post. I think you understood, (but pretended not to), that that post was not meant to be derogatory towards large and facially unattractive women. What I was really saying is that any average or below average guy, in terms of looks, income, game, etc. can have free civvie sex often, if he's willing to forgo masturbation, and if he's willing to lower his standards of whom he considers to be a viable sexual partner, ie: any woman who is ready and willing to have sex, but none of the other guys want to have sex with her, based on her physical appearance.
If I wanted to, I could have sex with four different women like that a week, but that's not something I want. I don't get any more civvie tail than the other guys who post in The Lobby, and at no time have I ever said that I do. I have however, allowed others to assume that that is the case.
If someone gave me an incentive, like, say, a rich guy says "I'll give you $10,000 for every used <prophylactic> you bring me, with a different woman's DNA on the outside", I'd make $40,000 a week for a little while, and use that money to attract certain specific individual women that I would want to have sex with. Since no such incentive has been offered to me, I pass on a lot of the opportunities for sex that are available to me, because they are opportunities that do not interest me.
We all know guys who are in happy relationships with women that we would not look at twice. We may like and respect those women, but we are not attracted to them sexually. For me, I don't normally want to put my penis inside a woman, because I like her taste in poetry, or impressionist art, or films. Those traits make her more attractive, if I'm attracted to her physically, but in and of themselves, they are not enough.
For another guy, that may be enough, and that guy has a happy life, but he and I define happiness differently.
I'm going to give you a very specific example of where you have misunderstood me, and why, and why I wanted you to.
The thread was I Don't Get It https://www.hubgfe.com/community/showthread.php?78481-I-don-t-get-it This thread was written for the benefit of two people, Sarah and Tish, because I knew that they would understand it. Other people could, and did, but that irrelevant to me, when I wrote it. I know that Sarah read, and understood it. I know that you read it superficially, and misunderstood. I think that Tish did not read it. Here's what it meant:
Posts #1, 2, and 8 represent the three monkeys of ignorance; "See No Evil", "Speak No Evil" and "Hear No Evil", and the three posts, when read together, also comment on the Old and New Testaments of the Bible, political correctness, and prejudice based on ignorance. The narrator is a combination of Archie Bunker, Fred Flintstone, Yogi Berra, and other similar individuals.
In post #1:
He tells the story of how his teenage daughter became pregnant, with "Marty", the precocious child mentioned in post #8, who is the narrator's illegitimate grandson.
She doesn't know who Marty's father is, either because she had her eyes closed during the conception, or because she couldn't see who it was, because the lights were off. This represents The Immaculate Conception. The narrator's ignorance is not so deep that he does not see the lack of logic in having laws that allow minors to have sex, but not legally look at a photo of a naked body.
Post #2 begins with an absurd premise: Why would someone "look up the spelling" of a word he already knows how to spell? And when he finds the definition of the word, he misunderstands the phonetic pronunciation of the word to be the "English" spelling. This comments on the erosion of literacy in modern times, particularly with reference to the Internet.
The "coach of Duke" is Mike Krzyzewski, {pronounced "Shih-shev-ski"
Whom many, including me, think resembles a mortician. The narrator makes an association between the word syzygy and Krzyzewski's name, and assumes that syzygy is the Polish spelling of the English word "siz-i-jee". This suggests that Marty was born during an eclipse, a celestial event, related to the "Star of David", associated with the birth of Jesus.
In post #8, the narrator shows us his limited knowledge and understanding of the Old and New Testaments of The Bible, and how he relates to scripture, in terms of his own life.
He sees himself as Jehovah, The LORD, God the Father, because he owns a home, and has "created man in His own image". He is a manual labourer, with limited education, and beliefs based on misunderstandings. He is the Old Man; paternalistic, chauvinistic, bigoted, and uneducated, but he has a strong back, and a strong work ethic, and in his day, that was enough. He is conservative sexually, believing that sex should only be for procreation.
The narrator believes that recreational sex is wrong, because that's what he thinks the Old Testament God thought, based on vague recollections from the Book of Genesis.
His biological son represents the 'New Man', the millennial, raised in a politically correct world. This guy has no trouble obtaining casual sex, but he has no marketable skills, nor work ethic. He may make some money from an occupation like drawing henna tattoos on people's feet. He has social skills, but lacks the means to support himself. The father nags his son about this, and warns him that he cannot expect to live at home forever. This has an ironic component, because the son sees himself as Jesus, who ascended to Heaven to live in His Father's house forever. The narrator's son feels that he has the same entitlement.
The next portion suggests that the narrator has an illegitimate child, either his daughter, or one who is not otherwise described, as a result of an extramarital affair on the part of his wife, while the narrator was away, getting drunk in the woods.
The narrator realizes that Marty is better than him, and also better than his own biological son. Marty may or may not be deaf, but Marty is deaf towards his grandfather and his uncle. He educates himself by teaching himself to read, by watching televison with the closed captions enabled, and he educates himself, rather than listening to his grandfather or his uncle, whom Marty considers to both be wrong.
The narrator then contemplates what a statue of The Holy Ghost would look like, and from what substance it would be made, and whether that statue would have feet, like every other statue of "somebody" that he can think of.
It's all there, in plain sight, if you read it. The title thread is directed to those who read it, and didn't undertand a word, and they identified themselves by the followup comments. In effect, it's an inside joke, for the benefit of myself, Sarah, and Tish, and later, Jasper.
Post #10:
Post #22:
Tish is identified as one of the two people for whom the post was written. The use of bold and blue formatting, without an underline or hyperlink, identifies her as a HUBGFE advertiser, the same way I identified IfYouSeekAmy in post #43:
You may recall from another thread that Shit is an anagram of Tish, in both English, and joual profanity, {"h'sti!")
Post #26:
Post #36:
I think Jasper understood what was going on, and was amused by the others, who didn't get it.
Jasper indicates his understanding, by three times using four consecutive letters x to replace a reference to another place, that would be replaced by ****, if typed. The fact that he did it three times in one post is a sign to me that he understands, and the guys who didn't get it start talking about CFL football.
Post #41:
Sarah indicates that she understands, but in a way that still goes over most people's heads.
Post #47, Sarah responds to post #22:
Note that she doesn't say "Am I one of the two?". By phrasing her statement as "Can I...", she is relating to the thread title, "I don't get it", and saying "I Can".
In another thread, Sarah gave a further clue, when she started a sentence with "Shit, Tish...
So, it's all there, if you read it properly, as some did.The ones who understood got a good laugh, at the expense of those who didn't, and were none the wiser, until now.
I write entertainment. Some of it is 100% factual. Some of it is 100% bullshit. Some of it is 100% opinion, which may or may not be based on fact. Some of it is opinions that I do not personally believe. Many of them combine elements of the above.
Much of it is written exclusively for the benefit of one, or a small group of specific, individuals, but everyone else can read it, if they want to. The fact that most people cannot tell which of those categories a specific post falls under is the motive.
Let's start with the 'bust a slump' post. I think you understood, (but pretended not to), that that post was not meant to be derogatory towards large and facially unattractive women. What I was really saying is that any average or below average guy, in terms of looks, income, game, etc. can have free civvie sex often, if he's willing to forgo masturbation, and if he's willing to lower his standards of whom he considers to be a viable sexual partner, ie: any woman who is ready and willing to have sex, but none of the other guys want to have sex with her, based on her physical appearance.
If I wanted to, I could have sex with four different women like that a week, but that's not something I want. I don't get any more civvie tail than the other guys who post in The Lobby, and at no time have I ever said that I do. I have however, allowed others to assume that that is the case.
If someone gave me an incentive, like, say, a rich guy says "I'll give you $10,000 for every used <prophylactic> you bring me, with a different woman's DNA on the outside", I'd make $40,000 a week for a little while, and use that money to attract certain specific individual women that I would want to have sex with. Since no such incentive has been offered to me, I pass on a lot of the opportunities for sex that are available to me, because they are opportunities that do not interest me.
We all know guys who are in happy relationships with women that we would not look at twice. We may like and respect those women, but we are not attracted to them sexually. For me, I don't normally want to put my penis inside a woman, because I like her taste in poetry, or impressionist art, or films. Those traits make her more attractive, if I'm attracted to her physically, but in and of themselves, they are not enough.
For another guy, that may be enough, and that guy has a happy life, but he and I define happiness differently.
I'm going to give you a very specific example of where you have misunderstood me, and why, and why I wanted you to.
The thread was I Don't Get It https://www.hubgfe.com/community/showthread.php?78481-I-don-t-get-it This thread was written for the benefit of two people, Sarah and Tish, because I knew that they would understand it. Other people could, and did, but that irrelevant to me, when I wrote it. I know that Sarah read, and understood it. I know that you read it superficially, and misunderstood. I think that Tish did not read it. Here's what it meant:
Posts #1, 2, and 8 represent the three monkeys of ignorance; "See No Evil", "Speak No Evil" and "Hear No Evil", and the three posts, when read together, also comment on the Old and New Testaments of the Bible, political correctness, and prejudice based on ignorance. The narrator is a combination of Archie Bunker, Fred Flintstone, Yogi Berra, and other similar individuals.
In post #1:
bobistheowl said:
He tells the story of how his teenage daughter became pregnant, with "Marty", the precocious child mentioned in post #8, who is the narrator's illegitimate grandson.
She doesn't know who Marty's father is, either because she had her eyes closed during the conception, or because she couldn't see who it was, because the lights were off. This represents The Immaculate Conception. The narrator's ignorance is not so deep that he does not see the lack of logic in having laws that allow minors to have sex, but not legally look at a photo of a naked body.
Post #2 begins with an absurd premise: Why would someone "look up the spelling" of a word he already knows how to spell? And when he finds the definition of the word, he misunderstands the phonetic pronunciation of the word to be the "English" spelling. This comments on the erosion of literacy in modern times, particularly with reference to the Internet.
bobistheowl said:
The "coach of Duke" is Mike Krzyzewski, {pronounced "Shih-shev-ski"
Whom many, including me, think resembles a mortician. The narrator makes an association between the word syzygy and Krzyzewski's name, and assumes that syzygy is the Polish spelling of the English word "siz-i-jee". This suggests that Marty was born during an eclipse, a celestial event, related to the "Star of David", associated with the birth of Jesus.
In post #8, the narrator shows us his limited knowledge and understanding of the Old and New Testaments of The Bible, and how he relates to scripture, in terms of his own life.
He sees himself as Jehovah, The LORD, God the Father, because he owns a home, and has "created man in His own image". He is a manual labourer, with limited education, and beliefs based on misunderstandings. He is the Old Man; paternalistic, chauvinistic, bigoted, and uneducated, but he has a strong back, and a strong work ethic, and in his day, that was enough. He is conservative sexually, believing that sex should only be for procreation.
bobistheowl said:
The narrator believes that recreational sex is wrong, because that's what he thinks the Old Testament God thought, based on vague recollections from the Book of Genesis.
His biological son represents the 'New Man', the millennial, raised in a politically correct world. This guy has no trouble obtaining casual sex, but he has no marketable skills, nor work ethic. He may make some money from an occupation like drawing henna tattoos on people's feet. He has social skills, but lacks the means to support himself. The father nags his son about this, and warns him that he cannot expect to live at home forever. This has an ironic component, because the son sees himself as Jesus, who ascended to Heaven to live in His Father's house forever. The narrator's son feels that he has the same entitlement.
The next portion suggests that the narrator has an illegitimate child, either his daughter, or one who is not otherwise described, as a result of an extramarital affair on the part of his wife, while the narrator was away, getting drunk in the woods.
The narrator realizes that Marty is better than him, and also better than his own biological son. Marty may or may not be deaf, but Marty is deaf towards his grandfather and his uncle. He educates himself by teaching himself to read, by watching televison with the closed captions enabled, and he educates himself, rather than listening to his grandfather or his uncle, whom Marty considers to both be wrong.
The narrator then contemplates what a statue of The Holy Ghost would look like, and from what substance it would be made, and whether that statue would have feet, like every other statue of "somebody" that he can think of.
It's all there, in plain sight, if you read it. The title thread is directed to those who read it, and didn't undertand a word, and they identified themselves by the followup comments. In effect, it's an inside joke, for the benefit of myself, Sarah, and Tish, and later, Jasper.
Post #10:
bobistheowl said:
Post #22:
bobistheowl said:
Tish is identified as one of the two people for whom the post was written. The use of bold and blue formatting, without an underline or hyperlink, identifies her as a HUBGFE advertiser, the same way I identified IfYouSeekAmy in post #43:
bobistheowl said:
You may recall from another thread that Shit is an anagram of Tish, in both English, and joual profanity, {"h'sti!")
Post #26:
bobistheowl said:
Post #36:
Jasper said:
I think Jasper understood what was going on, and was amused by the others, who didn't get it.
Jasper said:
Jasper indicates his understanding, by three times using four consecutive letters x to replace a reference to another place, that would be replaced by ****, if typed. The fact that he did it three times in one post is a sign to me that he understands, and the guys who didn't get it start talking about CFL football.
Post #41:
Sarah indicates that she understands, but in a way that still goes over most people's heads.
Post #47, Sarah responds to post #22:
Sarah said:
Note that she doesn't say "Am I one of the two?". By phrasing her statement as "Can I...", she is relating to the thread title, "I don't get it", and saying "I Can".
In another thread, Sarah gave a further clue, when she started a sentence with "Shit, Tish...
So, it's all there, if you read it properly, as some did.The ones who understood got a good laugh, at the expense of those who didn't, and were none the wiser, until now.
U
User-E
Guest
bobistheowl said:
:biggrin2:
:blush2:
:wink2:
oldguyzer
Reviewer
- Joined
- Jun 19, 2011
- Messages
- 15,067
bobistheowl said:
:tease:Any time you have to explain what you meant, it means you didn't do a good job initially.
If you post for one or two specific people in a thread, all well and good, but others will read and post about your posts. That's what being a public forum means.
Frankly, I don't care about your rantings, who they are for, what kind of ego trip you get with your posts, or why you write at all. I am here for entertainment (fun, in other words), and your posts tend not to be either entertaining or fun. Instead, they read like someone who is pretending to be smarter than they really are for their own self-aggrandizement. You try too hard. Maybe that's who you really are, and maybe its what you are pretending to be. Either way, I don't care. But when you make idiotic comments in the threads, I can post my opinions of your comments just as much as I like, and not really care what you think. Based on some replies to what you've posted over the last few weeks, some of the members here are amused by you and some find you tiresome. I fall into the latter category. But then, I also don't care what you think about what I think about you.
If you want to add to the entertainment, I am delighted and will welcome you to the fold. Otherwise, you sound like the little kid trying to be a big kid, but it's transparent. So, keep amusing yourself. And stop worrying about what I think about you. You'll find more peace that way, because you are not impressing me one bit so far.
In the end, this is a board for people having fun, and providing information to each other. There are posters here who I read every time, and have a great deal of respect for both because of the intelligence (or fun) of their posts, and because their points are well reasoned and logical or passionate. Then there are posters who add little value to the discussion, and hence are noise (albeit sometimes entertaining noise). What we all think of each other doesn't really matter, because this isn't real life. But some part of our real lives manifest themselves here, and give a glimpse into that person. Maybe if I met you in person, I would form a different opinion of you, but I very much doubt it. And it doesn't matter to either one of us.
So relax, have fun, stop trying to impress if it's not real, and we'll all have a good time. HUBGFE is a fun place, and as a few events over the years has shown, we actually care about each other.
bobistheowl
BANNED
- Joined
- Oct 14, 2014
- Messages
- 1,935
Sarah said:
I found the post where Sarah said 'shit, Tish':
I knew I had seen that somewhere. I used the Advanced Search button at upper right in my browser window. My search parameter was shit, with the box set for exact, and User Name Sarah. I didn't expect her to have used the word shit in a lot of different threads. When advanced search found it, I looked in the thread titles, for one that I would have read.
I didn't find a pattern to the sequence of the results. One would expect them to be listed either alphabetically by thread title, or chronologically by first or last post date, but the search would probably be done alphabetically by the url of the thread. I didn't stay on the page long enough to experiment with sorting the results.
I clicked Edit in the Menu bar of my browser Window, and selected Find. I could have just as easily pressed the Control key, (Ctrl), then the F key, then released both, to bypass the mouse.
I typed shit in the find box - at the bottom in Firefox. The colour was red, so I knew it wasn't on page 1. I found it, in post #34, also dated November 1, the same as I Don't Get It:
Post #22:
Tish said:
I just now noticed that Tish had, in fact, acknowledged me, in a way too subtle for me to understand. My post #22 was:
bobistheowl said:
and Tish' mentions my handle in post #22 of another thread, but related to the reply by the thread titles. I said that there were two who would understand, so Tish indicated that she was one of them by posting in the same post number as mine. That was very subtle.
Post #34:
Sarah said:Thank you for your honesty Tish.EACE:
See?? I told you guys not to shit in every thread!!
... like little rabbit turds, or mouse droppings all over the place ... :biggrin2:
Notice that the two words are aligned vertically, (the bold formatting was added by me). Fittingly, it is from the Thread Hijacks - How Much is Too Much? thread: https://www.hubgfe.com/community/sh...cks-how-much-is-too-much/page2&highlight=shit
This was the same time I was talking about the vertical and horizontal alignment of nodes and handles in my font for the first time, the one where I had the Letter S, with the purple lines connecting the points, in Ask bobistheowl! I noticed the word pairing of shit and Tish, but Sarah's 'wink' from the word alignment went right over my head, until I read it again.
The alignment of text in Go Advanced is not the same as for the quoted post, but because I copy/ pasted the original text from the thread hijack thread, it was restored, when added to the middle of this post.
bobistheowl
BANNED
- Joined
- Oct 14, 2014
- Messages
- 1,935
oldguyzer said:
Any time you have to explain what you meant, it means you didn't do a good job initially...
I didn't have to explain it to Sarah, Tish, or Jasper.
W
Wild Bill
Guest
Now Bob....how should I put this so that I'm sure you understand ME? Have a Snickers. You're not yourself when you're hungry. :NoNoNo:
papasmerf
Senior Member
- Joined
- Aug 9, 2010
- Messages
- 33,614
Kitchen should be open late tomorrow afternoonTransient said:
I have already fired up the smoke house and will be smoking bellies tonight.
The plethora of sheep here opens the menu up a lot.
I am not sure what the law on killing Wallabies and Kangaroos, for food is.
So for now I will let them be.
I did shoot a half dozen Jackalopes this morning and will roast them over an open fire tonite
