Sex-crime victim could be jailed for tweeting her attackers' names

[j]

sorry, the girl IS the topic of this thread.......the conversation turned to include the situation whereby this whole scenario took place.........when some posters chose to argue that she shouldn't learn anything by this situation.......

OMG, tell me where anyone said she should not learn something from this situation. Who are you to tell her what she should learn. She should learn that all men are ignorant beasts, because there are so many who think because she drank too much (and at 17 we all certainly know our alcohol limits) she was the one in the wrong. Who are we to say what she did or didn't learn from this. You are assuming that she did not. And that to me tells me you are trying to redirect the focus away from the injustice of what happened to her, and her attempts to get back control of her own life. And to me, that tells me that deep down, or even not deep down, you don't think there was anything wrong with what the guys did because she was drunk and they therefore had a good excuse.

 

[j]

The point the women are making is that men should behave themselves, be socially responsible, should respect women, and should not use alcohol consumption as an excuse for sexual aggressiveness.

Interesting that you choose gender-neutral pronouns this time round, instead of saying a woman has to be careful not to put herself . . . thereby implying your advice applies to both genders. But the bottom line is that a man is highly unlikely to be violated by other men the way women are.

Let's examine a different context:

The RCMP is currently facing a . Lawyers for the veteran officer who launched the suit expected perhaps a dozen other women officers to join. Hundreds came forward. All of this is allegation, of course, yet to be proven in a court of law, but I have no difficulty believing that where there's smoke there's fire.

So by the logic that women should be careful, always, and not put themselves in a situation where they could easily be victimized, we can therefore deduce women should not join the RCMP.

On the other hand, by the logic that men should behave themselves and treat women with respect, this situation would not have festered over the years to the point of a class-action lawsuit.

And further to that I think there was a police officer (well probably more than one) who make sexual advances to women while on duty. So should all women be wary of all police officers, because as we have well seen, they will assault them and women who put themselves into danger by calling the police.

 

[tboy]

now why am I not surprised by these responses? lol.....as soon as I saw that ss had posted I KNEW the "theme" of her responses lol......

As an adult, yeah, I DO hold the right to tell a teen what they should learn and what they shouldn't learn...ever heard of the term "it takes a village to raise a child"?? or did you miss that part in "life lessons 101"????

Sorry, who is saying she shouldn't learn anything? YOU ARE by denying that she was in the wrong for getting drunk and passing out.....and obviously you skipped over the part(s) where everyone stated that she didn't deserve to get sexually assaulted....(and once again, like all the other female responders, you jumped to the rape conclusion which we have no idea if that actually happened or not).....

I hate to be the one who breaks it to you, but just because you have tits and a pussy doesn't mean you aren't responsible for your actions......EVERYone is and can be held accountable for their actions, yeah, EVEN women....

or are you suggesting that women do not have the mental capacity to know right from wrong therefore shouldn't be held accountable? If so, you've set the women's lib movement back centuries........

 

[Jesus Quintana]

A female friend of mine was supposedly gang banged in University. She got completely shit faced, incoherent and remembers none of it. After all was said and done she told me that it doesn't matter how wrong it was that they did that to her she held herself responsible (to a degree) in that better judgement dictates that you don't pass out in a men's dorm. She still drinks - her and I get frighteningly shitfaced, but she feels safe with me.

 

[Melonballs2]

Men and women will never see eye to eye. The boys do deserve to be penalized and that's black and white no and's and if's. I do however to a certain extent agree that as individuals we do our best to not place ourselves in compromising situations.

I love long walks but I do not walk alone after 11 pm. There are times when I can't sleep and I would love to go for a long walk but I'm worried I may look like an easy target so I do not do it.

I raised a boy and 2 girls. I was much more protective of my daughters than my son and I'm not ashamed to admit it. I committed the sin of using a double standard raising them and if I had to do it again I would do it the same way. My son had later curfews and was able to go to parties on his own whereas my daughters up until the age of 18 were dropped off at homes and I always made sure there were adults present. I guaranteed nobody was going to take advantage of my babies who now are in their 30's and are still my babies!! I made sure growing up they knew not to drink to the point of access, not to accept anything to drink they didn't see poured from people they didn't know, not to puff on any cigarettes offered to them by any strangers. I use to also warn my son the same way but I was much more passionate with my daughter who in my eyes would be more likely to be victims.

I'm sorry, I know I'm old school.

 

[Jesus Quintana]

Although I have never been a parent I am an "Uncle" to a gaggle of kids. My friends have bred prolifically. The one lesson that I've learned from all the fathers is this: "Its easier to have son than a daughter because you only have one cock to worry about."

 

[tboy]

I'd just like to point out what is so hypocritical about the reactons in this thread: it is totally ok for women, to constantly tell men how wrong they are for whatever they did (whether they are actually wrong or not) but the very second a man dares to say a woman is wrong, well, all hell breaks loose...lol.....

kind of true isn't it? The mere mention that the young lady was wrong for getting plastered and the women here go berserk........