The Bunny Ranch

[tboy]

ok, if we're going to get into costs, dreamcast charges $8.00 per month for hosting and that includes 1000 gb of bandwidth. Now unless a site has lots of full length videos, that's a SHIT LOAD of views......

Anyhow, I never disbuted that there were costs associated with running ANY business, for some reason RR thought that was necessary to bring into the conversation. The conversation was "how much do agencies take from the hourly rate"......

 

[blackram]

Canada already is much more competitive in the sex biz so BR could not have the same business model. Mind you, several agencies and spas do very well catering to the tourist/conference market and are able to charge higher prices for less service. Not everyone goes after the hard to please, hardcore market that is us. BR could do well by leveraging off it's brand equity. But no doubt, the agencies and spas already here would give them a run for the money.

Now that brings up an interesting thought: what if the Bunny Ranch is not really interested in setting up its own shop up here, but would rather have a franchisee run a shop under the BR name? The McDonald's of brothels, so to speak. Maybe it doesn't even have to be a brothel, it could be just an outcall agency using the BR name, in other words a totally different business model than the original BR, with sex work being the only common link? The franchisee would then send a franchise fee to Hof, and he doesn't even have to do any work.

The question is does the BR have the same name cachet up here, as it does in the USA? In America, the BR is absolutely famous, or more accurately infamous. Fame or infamy, it results in the same thing: a name recognition. But does Canada care about an American cultural icon that is known for challenging the moral oppression of America, when the same problem doesn't exist in Canada? It may have worked in the 60's, when Canada and America were roughly in the same boat when it came to moral oppression, so you had Playboy, Penthouse, Hustler become famous up here too. But Canada has left America behind (in the proverbial dust) when it comes to moral oppression. Canada has stayed with the liberation, and America has fallen back into oppression.

 

[tboy]

you bring up an interesting topic, moral oppression in the us....that's just it, it is only on the surface where you find this moral majority or oppression as you state it....once you get passed that you find that they are just as perv as we are. hell, look at all the escorts famous people see, even the overly religious.....then you have the us the largest consumer of porn globally.....

it's all just a facade.......

 

[jumpingjackflash]

you bring up an interesting topic, moral oppression in the us....that's just it, it is only on the surface where you find this moral majority or oppression as you state it....once you get passed that you find that they are just as perv as we are. hell, look at all the escorts famous people see, even the overly religious.....then you have the us the largest consumer of porn globally.....

it's all just a facade.......

That is so true and when I hear Santoro and other politicians here and in the states speak they sound like they are holier than thou!

 

[blackram]

you bring up an interesting topic, moral oppression in the us....that's just it, it is only on the surface where you find this moral majority or oppression as you state it....once you get passed that you find that they are just as perv as we are. hell, look at all the escorts famous people see, even the overly religious.....then you have the us the largest consumer of porn globally.....

it's all just a facade.......

The point is not whether there are a lot of pervs down there, there obviously are everywhere. The point is whether they are being oppressed, and that they certainly are. There are entire states where you can't even open up a strip club. Most states, you can be arrested for prostitution: police can arrest you just for advertising even for free on Craigslist, or just for showing up at somebody's door with a condom in your bag. This is what promotes high prices for these services down there.

 

[tboy]

The point is not whether there are a lot of pervs down there, there obviously are everywhere. The point is whether they are being oppressed, and that they certainly are. There are entire states where you can't even open up a strip club. Most states, you can be arrested for prostitution: police can arrest you just for advertising even for free on Craigslist, or just for showing up at somebody's door with a condom in your bag. This is what promotes high prices for these services down there.

You have a point, and let's not even discuss their bullshit war on marijuana.....they want to solve their national debt? stop spending trillions fighting a war that the population doesn't want......I mean, there are states that legalized medicinal marijuana yet even if it's legal by state, the feebs can still come in and arrest you on a federal law......

We think we're fucked up here? they are totally fubar down there......

 

[Baz]

I believe the USA has the right idea and I'm hoping our elected federal government make prostitution illegal in Canada as well. It should be the same from border to border, same laws with the same tough suitable punishment. It's time to bring morality back before it's too late and if it cannot be taught then it should be mandated by law and order.

I agree whole heartily with Local councillor Peter Milczyn (Ward 5 Etobicoke-Lakeshore), it's about time the good people take back their streets and homes!!

 

[tboy]

ok, bazerko, i'll start this debate with you....so you want to follow the US do you? Does that mean that we say one thing and do another? like many politicians? Like many devote catholics? How many religious leaders have secretly been carrying on with male prostitutes? How many with female prostitutes? Need i bring up once again that the catholic church is rampant with pedophiles?

Now what religion should we base these laws on, yours? Islam? I hate to break it to you but islam is growing more powerful every day and if you abide by your adage "thou shalt not kill" there will come a time when your religion will be erased and islam will take over....then it's sharia law for all.....wives treated live livestock etc......

Masters and Johnson did an indepth study years ago and found that (I think it was) 75% of all adults really were just a bunch of pervs......that means you can't and won't ever stop people being people......no law, regulation, or good will can prevent it. It is better to bring it into the open and address it that way than bury it underground.......

We already devote 66% of our income to taxes, are you willing to put a further 20% into the pot to build and house all these people you would see arrested for sex crimes?

Now I agree to the point that teens should be taught a bit more about morality, at least until they reach the age of consent. I think doing that might curtail the rampant teen pregnancy issue......but not having sex education and not teaching about birth control is the wrong approach. Kids will be having sex, it is far better to prevent them from getting pregnant than turning a blind eye and HOPING they don't.....see where that train of thought got us?

 

[Rebecca Richardson]

I think you should have started your post with " once upon a time....."

"Once upon a time....." I shared what I know to be true based on my experiences and you shared what you know to be true based on your experiences. Of course our experiences are going to be different for a variety of reasons, all valid. Its not like I'm lying or you're lying, we just see it from different perspectives.

If you can find me an agency in Toronto who takes $20/h from $250/h with no additional charges (so my total take-home as an SP who charges $250/h would be $230 after payout, no additional fees to drivers, phone staff, locations, advertising or anything else) I'll kick you back the $80/h pay increase for me in the form of $80 I'll contribute to a session with the SP of your choice

btw, i'd just like to point out the contradiction in RR's post...no way an agency makes that much money or takes that little. Her argument is that they take much more than $20 per hour....so let's say they take $100 per call...let's halve the amount of bookings, that means their gross sales would be 5 times what i said they were, not less........

I see how you think that's contradictory if you maintained all your other assumptions. Perhaps you're talking revenues (no expenses) while I'm talking net income (revenues minus expenses). If you're talking about total revenues $500k/year is not impossible at all

If the sex industry works the same way economics do in general the supernormal returns you're forecasting would attract significantly more investment and interest than they do.

RR: i'm going to be polite since you're sort of an acquaintance....

Blah tboy, we're two different people with two different perspectives and that doesn't make either of us wrong or have a need to fight. We can be polite NOT because we're acquaintances but because we treat people how we'd like to be treated and we can respect each other because despite different perspectives we both have insight into and passion for an obscure and curious world. Screw being acquaintances: let's be friends?

There's already too much fighting on the internet.

 

[ipsniffit]

If Tboy doesn't take your $80 offer can I, not that I even know where to begin.:wacko:

 

[Baz]

Tboy, religion is only a small part of the issue. It is common knowledge that with prostitution comes along drugs, human trafficking, organized crime, and other criminal activities good people do not want to be exposed too. I don't make excuses for the hypocrites and criminals that infiltrate good organizations, in my opinion they should be thrown in jail and the key be thrown away.

Shariah Law is a concern and it's a threat to North America and it's future. Here is an interesting CBC in depth online article.


This is why it's important we elect strong leaders. Leader who have a strong Christian faith and will not allow Shariah Law to ever take root in Canada.

 

[tboy]

1) politicians do not have the power to prevent any religion from taking root in canada, only the citizens have that.....if 51% of the population votes in shariah law, then that's it......(and it is already happening in places in england)
2) shariah law is no less valid that your christian law.
3) It is common knowledge that with prostitution comes along drugs, human trafficking, organized crime, and other criminal activities good people do not want to be exposed too
Let's substitute any of the following for the word "prostitution"
baseball, hockey, football, soccer, horse racing, nightclubs, automotive industry, restaurants, banking, boat brokerage, immigration, construction, etc etc etc

so you want to outlaw any business or industry that may be infiltrated or enacted by criminal elements? Sounds to me like the only business you want legal is the church.......

 

[tboy]

.......

Blah tboy, we're two different people with two different perspectives and that doesn't make either of us wrong or have a need to fight. We can be polite NOT because we're acquaintances but because we treat people how we'd like to be treated and we can respect each other because despite different perspectives we both have insight into and passion for an obscure and curious world. Screw being acquaintances: let's be friends?

There's already too much fighting on the internet.

"Tboy you're so wrong its kinda funny" isn't that a direct quote from your initial post? Kind of antagonistic isn't it?

But thank you for acknowledging that the information given to me, while different than your experience, isn't incorrect.......just different.....

 

[jumpingjackflash]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16522447 pretty scary shit. I say let's get rid of all the religious fanatics of every race!

 

[blackram]

Analytical thinking reduces religious belief, so the secret to religion is to stop thinking. The secret to getting rid of religion is to start thinking.

 

[a 1 player]

I believe the USA has the right idea and I'm hoping our elected federal government make prostitution illegal in Canada as well. It should be the same from border to border, same laws with the same tough suitable punishment. It's time to bring morality back before it's too late and if it cannot be taught then it should be mandated by law and order.

I agree whole heartily with Local councillor Peter Milczyn (Ward 5 Etobicoke-Lakeshore), it's about time the good people take back their streets and homes!!

Selling stuff is legal
Sex is legal

Why should selling sex be illegal?

 

[Guido]

I think Bozo needs to get laid, a good mpos sound fucking with bbbjcimsw and all the fixings. Ida has him to confined and he needs to experience a more open-minded lady. Bozo go see LadyRaven and take her up on her offer, you'll feel like a million bucks afterwards!

 

[Baz]

a 1 player sex is something to be enjoyed in a monogamous relationship between a man and a woman! It's not to be sold and it should not be legal to be sold,

 

[SillyGirl]

 

[Baz]

I have never been referred to as a walrus before but I will remind you of the famous chant we all grew up with.

"stick and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me"