I'm happy too see you have picked up the baton from the dearly departed (only from this forum not planet earth of course) Celticman. Dear sir, do you think it is proper to encircle a young lady like a pack of wild animals purely for their enjoyment and lust?? Too me this resembles a pack of wolves circling their prey. I hope Reverse has the self esteem to stand up for herself and take this request as a violation of her well being. You are an intelligent man and a self proclaimed doctor, PLEASE think about what is being asked of the young lady.