Why they call them curvy instead of fat, overweight and she doesn't take care of herself?

[Jacklyn7]

Yes we do. I have worked with incredibly well reviewed younger spinners and I make the same money they do, have the same calls they do, and so on. Don't try and tell me I am any less desired.

In truth and in fact, overweight escorts do NOT fare so well in the industry. If they did, there would likely be many more of them out there than is in fact the case. Are there some clients that seek out their attributes? Sure. Are they the majority? Nope. They are in fact a small minority of the overall client base, comparatively speaking. Let's keep it real, huh?

I also suggest that you do some research on what constitutes free speech vs. hate. As I said above, voicing an honest opinion that another may not agree with, or which offends them, does not automatically constitute hatred.

 

[Louis XIV]

I do not think asking people to refrain from calling ladies "fat" is the same as asking people to politely smile at each other.

If they are indeed fat, it's unfortunate but there is nothing wrong with stating it as a fact, nor in voicing an opinion related to that fact on the subject of physical attractiveness. What is wrong is trying to censor the entire conversation because you are personally offended by the statements of fact and opinion.

 

[bolt.upright]

If they are indeed fat, it's unfortunate but there is nothing wrong with stating it as a fact, nor in voicing an opinion related to that fact on the subject of physical attractiveness. What is wrong is trying to censor the entire conversation because you are personally offended by the statements of fact and opinion.

Using that logic we should also feel free to throw racial slurs at each other, question each others intelligence, etc. Sounds like a lot of fun, until someone gets offended.

 

[bobistheowl]

A big problem that many women face is that high fashion clothing is designed and marketed towards a very specific and highly rare body type: very tall, and very thin. This is the body type that is most attractive to homosexual fashion designers, because it most closely resembles the physique of the delicate thin young men they are thinking of, when they design the clothes. Many fashion models on runway exhibitions are not all that hot to look at, because that would detract from the job they are performing: selling overpriced clothes. If the model is too good looking, everyone is looking at her, rather than at what she's wearing, which defeats the purpose of the advertising.

If it's print modelling, or Victoria's Secret, that's similar, but not the same thing. In those cases, we just assume the clothes must be attractive, or a hot woman would be wearing something else.

Those body types tend to be favoured by the men of highest social status, (movie stars, pro athletes, rock stars, owners of large corporations, etc.), often as arm candy, or just because they are rare; there aren't enough of them do go around, so the top dogs grab one, to prevent another guy from having her.

Lying about one's weight is something almost every woman does. Maybe Kyra Graves and a half dozen other women in the world don't do that. When we see a celebrity in a photo, the image is usually airbrushed or photoshopped, and if they print the vital stats, they're lies, too. Imagine that a young and shapely woman has the identical real life body as a celebrity, in terms of height, weight, shape, and bust/ waist/ hips measurements. They both weigh 125 pounds, but the magazine article says the celebrity weighs 115. That girl thinks to herself that she needs to lose ten pounds, or she tells people that she weighs 115, and someone else who reads 125 on the scales thinks they need to lose ten pounds.

If you ask guys what body shape they prefer, most would say fit, with some extra meat on the bone. They'd like a woman that they would be proud to introduce to their male friends, and also one who would eat her whole meal in a restaurant, instead of picking a bit at some vegetables, and having 3/4 of her steak end up in the dumpster. They want a woman who is sturdy enough to take a bear hug, and not crack a rib, or get all bruised, like the princess who had a pea in her bed, in that fairy tale. Slimmer than 'real life average' is preferred, but hard bodies honed in the gym are often the first choice only of their male counterparts. In many cases, guys think that a hard and toned body may be either 'too masculine', or it's overcompensating for deficiencies in other areas, (personality, intelligence, etc.), which may or may not be true. It's like when a guy takes up bodybuilding, because he has a small dick.

One big disadvantage for anyone who is both large and untoned of body, regardless of their gender, is the message it sends, to potential mates. Carrying a lot of unnecessary pounds is the equivalent of wearing a T-shirt that says "I don't enjoy strenuous physical activity", which is exactly the wrong message you want to send, if you're looking to get laid as a civilian.

I covered more on this in an Ask bobistheowl! post, #355 on page 18, about how men select different physical traits for procreational and recreational sexual partners.

 

[Wanker]

I like to fuck smart women. Slim or curvy, who cares as long as they know what they are doing.

 

[Louis XIV]

Yes we do. I have worked with incredibly well reviewed younger spinners and I make the same money they do, have the same calls they do, and so on. Don't try and tell me I am any less desired.

By and large, overweight women working in the sex industry DO NOT do as well as women who are fit. You can play the comparison game based on a few limited comparisons, but again, let's not kid ourselves here. BBW's do not command the same breadth or volume of clients as what I'd term more 'fit' providers, nor can they typically command the same rates for services and actually get it on any regular basis. Simple searches of providers, along with experiential insight by those who hobby supports this as a pretty damn accurate assessment of the industry. If what you say is true, we'd be seeing a hell of a lot more BBW advertisers (SPs/MPAs/BDSM providers/Strippers) than we do, and the rates for BBW service providers would be more in line with the emerging norm of $300/hr rates. But the truth is, we don't. Individual results may vary on a case by case basis, but to state that BBWs do as well as non-BBWs as escorts across the industry is simply not true.

You sound silly when your argument is essentially that 'fat chicks do just as well as skinny chicks do in the sex industry'. Everyone, anyone, knows this is not the case. 9 times out of 10, when faced with the decision to book either a BBW vs. a fit provider for the same fee, the client will go with the fit provider, assuming all other factors being equal. It is what it is. Accept it.

 

[Louis XIV]

Using that logic we should also feel free to throw racial slurs at each other, question each others intelligence, etc. Sounds like a lot of fun, until someone gets offended.

Go back and read my earlier posts, and the reference content I posted. Racial slurs are well recognized as hate-oriented, and a different situation altogether. I have addressed this in an earlier comment.

 

[Cardinal Fang]

I do not think asking people to refrain from calling ladies "fat" is the same as asking people to politely smile at each other.

And here we have the issue Jacklyn7. The term "fat" to you is pejorative in nature while BBW may not be. The issue boils down with men's preferences. There are those on here that believe that a well proportioned women beyond a certain weight is "fat" and that you can call them anything you want including BBW and they will still say you're just masking the fact that they are "fat." While I don't agree with that, that is only my opinion and MY PREFERENCE and I certainly don't want to censor others who present an alternative opinion on this. As long as it's not vulgar or personal I can deal with it.

In the same way that I can deal with those that have a preference for "spinners." I get uncomfortable when I see a very petite and thin statured women that reminds of a pre-teen girl. It makes my skin crawl to think what other men see in them. But hey! That's me. I'm certainly not going to go into the thread and call them out as being closet pedophiles. That would make me look stupid and intolerant. Two characteristics of which this online cleric does not want to own. :biggrin2:

As many others have already mentioned the original poster of this thread makes it a habit of "dragging the bait" on this board in the hopes of getting people riled up. Ignore him/her and move on. You can't change their minds nor should you waste your time trying to do so.

 

[bobistheowl]

I'm either really deep, or really shallow (I haven't decided which one yet) but I don't see what size has to do with anything. I have enjoyed Jacklyn's company many times because she is a genuinely nice person, as well as an incredible lover. I have also seen blondes and brunettes, black, white and Asian ladies, and women ranging in size from spinners to average size to BBW's. The ones I enjoy and repeat with are the ones with incredible attitudes who make me feel special (I'm not, in any conceivable way), seem to enjoy their time with me, and appear happy to see me return. I don't care about a number on a scale any more than I care about the year of birth on their birth certificate (assuming she's of age, of course). The only thing I do ask, and maybe this is what makes me a jerk, is that there is an "F" on their birth certificate next to the word "sex"--that's the only deal-breaker I have. If you want to criticize me for that, please feel free.

When a woman is giving away her sexual favours to someone whom she doesn't know well, she's probably looking for certain physical characteristics. When she's renting them, things like attitude are more highly valued. It doesn't matter how much money a guy has in the bank, as long as the envelope has the agreed upon amount in it.

The attitude you show is more likely to be the attitude you receive, good or bad. When the two are not in synch, neither party generally wants a rematch.

Probably some guys make twenty bucks an hour, and they pay an Escort ten times that for an hour, and they decide to make that hour with them seem like ten hours, like when you had a very boring teacher in high school, or when you watch the microwave clock tick down for six minutes.

You knew that already bolt, but other guys eavesdrop on us, when we talk publicly. It's often the only way to teach them these things.

 

[Littledude]

Jacklyn, do I hear Chuncky, Madman or Raiden booking you soon :-Cool/"

 

[bobistheowl]

Yes we do. I have worked with incredibly well reviewed younger spinners and I make the same money they do, have the same calls they do, and so on. Don't try and tell me I am any less desired.

My brother does or did run an Escort agency out west, in his 'off season'; he puts out forest fires from airplanes in the summer, and there's not much call for that, when there's snow on the ground. He just represents old lady Doms, and even in a small town, business booms. That sort of 'niche clientele', however, relies heavily on repeat business. The stats guys who are looking to bed as many women as possible once generally ignore his sales associates. There may be a smaller number of guys looking for larger commercial partners, but on average, their market share in terms of sessions purchased is usually disproportionately higher, so 5% of the guys might represent 15% of the purchases.

 

[bolt.upright]

Go back and read my earlier posts, and the reference content I posted. Racial slurs are well recognized as hate-oriented, and a different situation altogether. I have addressed this in an earlier comment.

Thank you, I did read your earlier posts and understood every word. What I am trying to say is, if it's going to offend somebody, then please refrain in saying it. An overweight person already knows they are overweight and doesn't need it to pointed out to them over and over again. I may not mean any offense in saying that someone is tall or short, or black or white, or whatever other physical description you want to observe, but it can be taken that way by the person if it's continually repeated on the board in a derogatory way. Yes, it may be a fact but there is no need for it if it's going to hurt someone's feelings.

 

[Guido]

All I know is I want to see Jacklyn if I can bring my speedo!

Jacky are we good??

 

[Louis XIV]

Thank you, I did read your earlier posts and understood every word. What I am trying to say is, if it's going to offend somebody, then please refrain in saying it. An overweight person already knows they are overweight and doesn't need it to pointed out to them over and over again. I may not mean any offense in saying that someone is tall or short, or black or white, or whatever other physical description you want to observe, but it can be taken that way by the person if it's continually repeated on the board in a derogatory way. Yes, it may be a fact but there is no need for it if it's going to hurt someone's feelings.

I think you may still not get the fact that speaking in generalities about subjects that are sensitive in nature and have the potential to offend when honest opinions are expressed is different than pointing comments directly at a specific individual. As was pointed out by someone else earlier in this thread, all members have the option not to read specific threads if they find the content of the discussion upsetting, hurtful, or personally offensive. The moderators here will decide when discussions or posts go too far. This shouldn't preclude people from voicing their honest opinions in a non-personalized manner. You will note that this thread discussion was not, and is not about anyone specific. It would be helpful to everyone if it remained that way. Attempts at censorship perpetrated by members is typically frowned upon by most publicly moderated discussion forums for a reason.

 

[Johnnybehorny]

can bring my speedo!

Jacky are we good??

Would she get to keep it?.

 

[Jacklyn7]

You bet babe!

All I know is I want to see Jacklyn if I can bring my speedo!

Jacky are we good??

 

[Rollie Fingers]

[h=2]Feds Wonder Why Fat Girls Can’t Get Dates[/h]NIH spends $466,642 to determine if it’s all about that bass

https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-wonder-why-fat-girls-cant-get-dates/

 

[Jasper]

We don't know the stats on how many guys prefer BBWs because they tend to keep it to themselves. Who wants to be labelled on here as a chubbychaser?

To me, Jacklyn's best feature is her attitude - she's an enthusiastic fuck.
:good:

 

[Jacklyn7]

Who be you?! Lol, and thanks :biggrin2:

We don't know the stats on how many guys prefer BBWs because they tend to keep it to themselves. Who wants to be labelled on here as a chubbychaser?

To me, Jacklyn's best feature is her attitude - she's an enthusiastic fuck.
:good:

 

[Jacklyn7]

Oh please, I get asked out all the time and I get proposed to almost as often.

Feds Wonder Why Fat Girls Can’t Get Dates

NIH spends $466,642 to determine if it’s all about that bass

https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-wonder-why-fat-girls-cant-get-dates/