Why they call them curvy instead of fat, overweight and she doesn't take care of herself?

[Madman]

you are sick


Oh yea fixed your post

Get back where you belong-------------->

and stay put! Art is in the kitchen preparing, KEEP AN EYE ON HIM!

 

[Lily Divine]

So you don't want me to come right out and say what most doctors and scientists think, simply because it might offend people? I admit I've taken a bit of an aggressive stance on this thread, but it's for a simple reason: most people can control their eating (and hence their weight) but everyone looks for excuses (genetics, additives, health issues, etc). In the end, they are all excuses. I defy you to point to anyone (without a genuine clinically-recognized health issue) that cannot lose weight by eating moderately and exercising.

Sorry if I offend, but it's the truth. Kinda hard to argue with that...

I said I expected better from you which translates to disappointed in you. Not offended by you.

You want me to point to one person. Done:

I was a health food junkie with flawless portion control while at my heaviest and struggling with prescribed medications which caused weight gain.

Obesity, and being over weight is never as cut and dried as being lazy or eating too much. In many cases it may be but not in all.

The interesting thing is there is so much conflicting information out there that few can truly agree on anything which might or might not be relevant to the majority. Heck the Doctors who don't get it push the food guide which is a load of malarky. The dieticians who are government funded push the food guide which is a load of malarky. The few who truly get it or know something are often pushed by the wayside or ignored as politicians make decisions about what to include ( https://www.weightymatters.ca/2006/11/canadas-food-guide-to-unhealthy-eating.html ). Physicians push this at their patients all the time and few seem to realize the sheer quantity of food one is expected to eat. Wait till a nutritionist tells you "you don't eat enough and that's why you can't lose weight".

 

[oldguyzer]

Well, as I expected, most people get defensive on the subject, mostly because they prefer to believe it's not their fault they are overweight. Nope, nothing to do with them. It's the sugar. It's the drugs. It's the genetic manipulation. It's the depression. It's whatever makes you feel vindicated and not have to assume the blame for your own self-health.

Personally, I push against obesity because of one simple reason: it is unhealthy for you. Get fat, your odds of dying go up dramatically. Your odds of diseases that require treatment, often expensive and painful, goes up. Your odds of just about everything good go down. You wanna be fat? Go right ahead. It's your call. But tell it like it is: you're fat because you eat more than you burn. I don't care why you do that: the formula is simple. If calories in is more than calories out, say hello to fat cells.

Of course you need two chocolate donuts in the morning to help you get going. Sure, you need to eat the whole Pringles can because you're depressed. Naturally you must have two pieces of chocolate cake instead of one because you're on prescription drugs. Absolutely valid for you to say you want them, not to say you need them. But the consequences are you make the decision, you eat more than you burn, you get fat. Period. Your call...

I love overindulging just as much as many people. But I do it on occasion, not every day. And I make sure when I do overindulge I work off those calories by walking a bit more, eating a bit less calories the next day, or compromising in some other way. I've been within the same weight range for 40 years simply because I do try to eat the same amount as I burn. That's through periods with prescription drugs, chemo, stress, depression, and everything else life throws at us. Why can I do it? Because I am aware of the simple formula of calories in versus calories out, and made the conscious decision not to overeat. I'll skip the late night snack, even though it would be soooo good, simply because I know it's excess calaories. I'm not special in any way for doing this: everyone can do it. If they want. You don't want, well, that's your choice. But please don't blame others. That's a hollow justification.

***Note: I am fully aware there are circumstances both biological and psychologically that imbalance the equation, and can lead to unwanted weight gain. I'm not talking about those special cases. I'm talking about the average adult in Canada and the US who is overweight because they eat too much and don't exercise enough. Which is well over 99% of you! (Of course, not YOU specifically, you're special...)

And yeah, I'll get stupid remarks back about doctors being this and that, the world is different now because I'm old, and I don't understand your "special" situation. Know what? I don't care. The formula is simple: eat more than you burn and you get fat. Period. End of story. Not debatable.

Now, that should manage to piss off a few people :-Cool/"

 

[User-E]

Now, that should manage to piss off a few people :-Cool/"

I think you're pretty awesome for an old coot!

:BigHug:

 

[oldguyzer]

I think you're pretty awesome for an old coot!

Hey! I resemble that remark :wink2:

 

[Baz]

Oldguyzer, look at the bright side, you and I finally agree on an issue.

 

[Art Mann]

Oldguyzer, look at the bright side, you and I finally agree on an issue.

Well, that certainly speaks volumes about the issue . . .

. . . or . . . ummm . . . something . . .

 

[HOOKED]

Well, that certainly speaks volumes about the issue . . .

. . . or . . . ummm . . . something . . .

Oh oh, LOL

 

[oldguyzer]

Oldguyzer, look at the bright side, you and I finally agree on an issue.

So you have common sense in this issue....good for you! :-Cool/"

 

[Mariner]

Oprah reminds me of a young Diana Ross.

Not in a hundred years

 

[Madman]

So you have common sense in this issue....good for you! :-Cool/"

Hey, hold on a god gone minute there.....you've never ever told me I have common sense.... now I'm offended!

 

[papasmerf]

Hey, hold on a god gone minute there.....you've never ever told me I have common sense.... now I'm offended!

Now you can have some

 

[Madman]

Now you can have some

Thank you kindly ...but ......BUT...it better be COLD!

 

[papasmerf]

Thank you kindly ...but ......BUT...it better be COLD!

Cold beer????????????

That just dilutes the flavor

Beer should be served no colder than cellar temp.

 

[Madman]

Cold beer????????????

That just dilutes the flavor

Beer should be served no colder than cellar temp.

You're delusional again.....Doctor Oldguyzer, get up off your arse and give papa some meds.

In the meantime https://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/serve-beer-at-the-right-temperature.html


NOW STOP HI-JACKING THE YOU'RE TO FAT THREAD DAMMIT!!!

 

[papasmerf]

You're delusional again.....Doctor Oldguyzer, get up off your arse and give papa some meds.

In the meantime https://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/serve-beer-at-the-right-temperature.html


NOW STOP HI-JACKING THE YOU'RE TO FAT THREAD DAMMIT!!!

• Serve authentic Stouts as warm as 55 degrees Fahrenheit (13 degrees Celsius), which is British cellar temperature.
  
  
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  In the United States, most beers are served much too cold for serious appreciation. In fact, ice-cold temperatures ruin the flavor of good beer. The average refrigerator is set to keep food and drinks chilled at around 38 to 40 degrees Fahrenheit (about 4 degrees Celsius), but serving beers at this temperature has several negatives, including the following:
  
  
• The colder the beer, the less carbonation is released; the less carbonation that’s released, the less aroma the beer gives off.
  
  
• The palate is numbed to the point that it can’t discern many of the beer’s flavor nuances. (So this explains why some beers are best served just above the freezing mark!) Why bother drinking a beer if you can’t taste it? May as well have a Slurpee.
  
  

Cold temperatures = less carbonation released = less aroma = less taste = why bother? Save the really cold temps for lawnmower beer — the kind you chug down after mowing the lawn (taste? who cares?).

From your own article

 

[Madman]

Oldguyzer, Papasmerf is now ready for a gastric bypass. Peace and Robin will administer the anesthesia, he should be ready for you in 10 minutes.

 

[papasmerf]

Hmmmmmm

OG, I know you do lap bands.

I was wondering if you would do a neck band for a "special needs" patient?

 

[oldguyzer]

• Serve authentic Stouts as warm as 55 degrees Fahrenheit (13 degrees Celsius), which is British cellar temperature.
  

My grandfather owned and ran a pub in Yorkshire for most of his adult life. Beer is best at cellar temperature. Unless it's American beer, then it doesn't matter a bit since it has no flavour anyway!

 

[oldguyzer]

Hmmmmmm

OG, I know you do lap bands.

I was wondering if you would do a neck band for a "special needs" patient?

Forget neck...I was thinking about three inches higher...