Ashley Madison out of business?

[cristycurves]

Is fooling around really that big a deal? I know some think they're spouse sexing it up with another to be a reason for calling it quits, but if you love someone shouldn't that be forgivable? I do realize that those who get emotionally involved with another are a different ball of wax, you are then treading in waters that involve emotions, to me this signals something being wrong with your secured relationship, but perhaps my views are skewed by my own lifestyle. But what it boils down for me is love is love-sex is sex-the two don't go hand in hand... always. Just because someone is screwing around doesn't mean they don't love you, therefore for some, I'd think forgiveness is in order. Just my thought. Quite honestly if I were with a man and he wanted to have sex with another, yet stay involved with me, I'd be fine with it, as long as I knew, the hiding of the indiscretion for me is more egregious than the infidelity.But even then, I'd be forgiving should he have hidden it. Crazy?

 

[Wanker]

[h=1]Fake or real? Ashley Madison complaints claim accounts not legitimate[/h][h=2]Complaints to U.S. Federal Trade Commission about Ashley Madison show examples of people alleging false accounts made under their names.[/h]

https://www.thestar.com/business/20...complaints-claim-accounts-not-legitimate.html

 

[User-E]

How Ashley Madison says it kept prostitutes off the site

As details about Ashley Madison’s business continue to spill forth through two massive data dumps by hackers, Fusion was sent a company document titled “Management Presentation.” The February 2014 Powerpoint presentation reveals revenue numbers, membership growth rates, and explains how it keeps “undesirables” off the site, which Ashley Madison defines as prostitutes and pornography purveyors.

According to the PowerPoint, part of how the company detects who’s a prostitute is by looking for “over usage of the site.” Lest they accidentally ban someone who is just really excited to have an affair, chronic users are then marked for human review.

According to the document, the company then collected the IP addresses of people it believed to be prostitutes, and dropped cookies on their computers that basically communicated ‘This is a prostitute.’ The site then used these cookies to redirect the suspected “undesirables” to a dummy site on which they had no possibility of making contact with Ashley Madison’s other users.

The PowerPoint explains how the ‘anti-undesirable’ technology works: it “utilizes cookies and IP tracking… to redirect these unwanted users, unknowingly, into a custom experience of the site with no actual interaction with ALM users.”

So, future prostitutes who want to cruise Ashley Madison, you should probably clear your cookies, try to hold off on checking the site too often, and use Tor to connect so that your IP address isn’t trackable. Though after this huge hack, it’s unclear how many customers are actually going to remain there.

https://fusion.net/story/187088/how...n&hootPostID=00c12050e1b1fa3e31dd51fba237c7e3

 

[Blank_Dave]

Is fooling around really that big a deal? I know some think they're spouse sexing it up with another to be a reason for calling it quits, but if you love someone shouldn't that be forgivable? I do realize that those who get emotionally involved with another are a different ball of wax, you are then treading in waters that involve emotions, to me this signals something being wrong with your secured relationship, but perhaps my views are skewed by my own lifestyle. But what it boils down for me is love is love-sex is sex-the two don't go hand in hand... always. Just because someone is screwing around doesn't mean they don't love you, therefore for some, I'd think forgiveness is in order. Just my thought. Quite honestly if I were with a man and he wanted to have sex with another, yet stay involved with me, I'd be fine with it, as long as I knew, the hiding of the indiscretion for me is more egregious than the infidelity.But even then, I'd be forgiving should he have hidden it. Crazy?

I would have to say society at large would vote "crazy". Whilst I do agree the one can love a person but not desire sex with them. As well as one needn't love a person to have sex with them. That's not how it's "seen".

After all, what is the common term for having sex? "Making love".

Culturally the two are seen as intertwined and nearly inseparable. Very few can see those two activities as separate actions.

This can even be seen in such things as porn and masturbation. Many studies point to the latter as being a former of "me time", and has little to nothing to do with what the individual is or isn't getting. But tell that to the wife/go who just walked in on their man.

Auggie pointed this out to me a number of years ago, when I complained about my difficulties. He felt I was seeking an emotional bond/pay off in what is really just a physical encounter.

 

[blackram]

How Ashley Madison says it kept prostitutes off the site

As details about Ashley Madison’s business continue to spill forth through two massive data dumps by hackers, Fusion was sent a company document titled “Management Presentation.” The February 2014 Powerpoint presentation reveals revenue numbers, membership growth rates, and explains how it keeps “undesirables” off the site, which Ashley Madison defines as prostitutes and pornography purveyors.

According to the PowerPoint, part of how the company detects who’s a prostitute is by looking for “over usage of the site.” Lest they accidentally ban someone who is just really excited to have an affair, chronic users are then marked for human review.

According to the document, the company then collected the IP addresses of people it believed to be prostitutes, and dropped cookies on their computers that basically communicated ‘This is a prostitute.’ The site then used these cookies to redirect the suspected “undesirables” to a dummy site on which they had no possibility of making contact with Ashley Madison’s other users.

The PowerPoint explains how the ‘anti-undesirable’ technology works: it “utilizes cookies and IP tracking… to redirect these unwanted users, unknowingly, into a custom experience of the site with no actual interaction with ALM users.”

So, future prostitutes who want to cruise Ashley Madison, you should probably clear your cookies, try to hold off on checking the site too often, and use Tor to connect so that your IP address isn’t trackable. Though after this huge hack, it’s unclear how many customers are actually going to remain there.

Wow, some major thought went into keeping prostitutes out. Too bad the same amount of brain power didn't go into securing their site. :LMAO:

 

[cristycurves]

Sad to know I'm thought of as an undesirable simply because I accept payment for companionship. Yet those who freely spread their....and.... are thought as desirable??

@Blank Dave-I see your point. It does seem that even those who are open minded enough to think people can have "affairs" or want to, look at our profession with disdain, so those in general society aren't going to be or see it any differently. When will people come out of the dark ages and realize that sex is a bodily function, just as eating and drinking are.It is something we all need or should have for optimal health Yes we can attach or form emotions from the act but not all communicate sexually the same, not everyone needs to love to have sex or make love when having sex. Some just want to fuck and move on and some want to fuck a lot, and a lot of different people, nothing wrong with that, imo. But I believe I'm preaching to the choir, as most here obviously appreciate those who offer companionship.

 

[Bambino]

Toronto Police update Ashley Madison investigation

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BY , TORONTO SUNFIRST POSTED: MONDAY, AUGUST 24, 2015 09:59 AM EDT

Toronto Police are expected to address the Ashley Madison hack in a news conference Monday morning.
Staff-Supt. Bryce Evans will provide an update on the investigation into the adultery website's data leak at 10 a.m.

Representatives of Canadian and international law enforcement are also expected.

Ashley Madison saw a massive cache of data that hackers claim belong to the infidelity website hit the internet over the past week.
The hackers have claimed "nobody was watching" as they retrieved the data.

Going by the name Impact Team, the group had previously threatened to post names and other sensitive information regarding Ashley Madison customers if it's Toronto-based parent company Avid Life Media did not shut down this particular website as well as another one called Established Men.

The U.S. Defense Department and Postal Service are probing the alleged use of military and government emails used on the website.

Last week, Toronto lawyers filed a notice of action for a class-action lawsuit against the website, with the main plaintiff a disabled widower from Ottawa who joined the site briefly after his wife's death but never actually met anyone online.


https://www.torontosun.com/2015/08/24/toronto-police-update-ashley-madison-investigation

 

[User-E]

'Suicides' over Ashley Madison hack

Two Ashley Madison clients are reported to have taken their lives after hackers published their details according to police in Canada.

"Today I can confirm that Avid Life Media is offering a $500,000 (£241,065) reward to anyone providing information that leads to the identification, arrest and prosecution of the person or persons responsible for the leak of the Ashley Madison database," said acting staff superintendent Bryce Evans.

"This hack is one of the largest data breaches in the world and is very unique on its own in that it exposed tens of millions of people's personal information including," he added.

The announcement was made at a news conference at Toronto Police Headquarters.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology...ng&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central

 

[User-E]

I checked and I'm on the list. I signed on out of curiosity, but never turned over any credit or address info fortunately. As i recall you had to give an email address just to "look". I closed the account the next day. Did the same time with E-harmony, Plenty of Fish - again out of curiosity. Obviously, will not be doing that again. Which begs the question. How secure are we here? Hmmm. What info is recorded and maintained by the site. IP addresses?

I'm betting this site is a lot safer than the other board whose mods publish their members IP addy's for everyone to read.

 

[Macho Man]

I'm betting this site is a lot safer than the other board whose mods publish their members IP addy's for everyone to read.

Corectomundo.

 

[User-E]

‘This isn’t fun and games anymore’: Toronto Police issue stern warning to Ashley Madison hackers

Scam artists, extortionists and “unconfirmed reports” of possible suicides have emerged in the aftermath of the Ashley Madison hack, Toronto police said Monday.

“This isn’t fun and games anymore,” Acting Staff Supt. Bryce Evans told a morning news conference. “We’re talking about families. We’re talking about their children … It’s going to have impacts on their lives.”

Among the millions of Ashley Madison clients affected, some are receiving emails threatening to expose them as adulterers.

“If you would like to prevent me from sharing this dirt with all of your known friends and family (and perhaps even your employers too?) then you need to send exactly 1.05 bitcoins ,” reads one such email provided by police. “Consider how expensive a divorce lawyer is.”

Other online enterprises are making bogus claims that they can erase a individual’s name from the trove of leaked data. And sites that boast the ability to tell you whether your information was hacked will probably just expose you to “malware, spyware, adware and viruses,” police said.

Evans also cited “unconfirmed reports” of two suicides associated with the hack. Police would not answer further questions about where or when the possible suicides occurred.

Toronto Police, alongside the Ontario Provincial Police, the RCMP, FBI and U.S. Homeland Security, are probing the hack, which saw the personal information of more than 30 million site users released last week. Police are also appealing to “white hat hackers” to assist the investigation.

Ashley Madison’s Toronto-based parent company, Avid Life Media, has been cleared of any criminal wrongdoing in the case, Evans said. The company is offering a $500,000 reward for any tip that leads investigators to the Impact Team, which has claimed responsibility.

The hackers apparently took issue with Ashley Madison’s mandate to facilitate extra-marital affairs. Evans said hate crimes have been connected to the hack, but did not elaborate further.

“The fact that some people are offended by this service provided by Ashley Madison cannot deter us and it will not deter us,” he said.

In an interview with Mothecommunity, the group mocked Avid Life Media, saying “Nobody was watching. No security.”

Police confirmed Avid Media’s assurances that while some billing information was exposed, full credit card information is not believed to be at risk.

“I am well aware that the Impact Team hackers will be taking an interest in this media conference,” Evans said. “Therefore I’m going to direct these comments to them.”

“I want to make it clear to you: Your actions are illegal and will not be tolerated.”

See video here: https://www.vancouversun.com/techno...olice+issue+stern+warning/11313249/story.html

 

[Anonymous69]

[h=1]Police request for Anonymous help with Ashley Madison called 'historic'[/h][h=2]Hacker group Anonymous has traditionally acted on political, social justice causes, and McGill professor Gabriella Coleman said it’s significant that police would recognize that.[/h]
The Toronto Police Service’s decision to reach out to “white hat hackers” and Anonymous for help identifying who’s responsible for the Ashley Madison data breach is a “historic” and surprising move, says a leading scholar.

Gabriella Coleman, a McGill professor, studies the Anonymous community and wrote Hacker, Hoaxer, Whistleblower, Spy: The Many Faces of Anonymous. She told Metro she’s surprised to see Toronto police asking hackers – and specifically naming Anonymous—for tips and leads.

“Police have always reached out to the public and citizens for help, but they have an antagonistic relationship with Anonymous,” Coleman said.

Anonymous has traditionally acted on political, social justice causes, and Coleman said it’s significant that police would recognize that.

Acting Staff Supt. Bryce Evans made the request to the hacking community at a Monday morning.

“To the hacking community who engages in discussion on the Dark Web and probably know information that could assist us in this investigation, we’re also appealing to you to do the right thing, to acknowledge that this is a unique situation that has caused enormous social and economic fallout,” he said. “You know the Impact Team has crossed the line. Do the right thing and reach out to us.”

When he was considering making the plea, Evans thought of Anonymous’ role into the sexual assault investigation of Halifax’s Rehtaeh Parsons, he said after the press conference.

The police strategy is a good one, Coleman said.


“The type of intelligence and reconnaissance work that the Toronto police is calling for, Anonymous has been very good at, at times,” she said. “They’re able to find things out because people go to them. And it is true that there are these forums, black hat forums, where gossip is shared and tips circulate.

“It is realistic that the hack community, Anonymous or not, who would know something about the Ashley Madison hack.”

Coleman’s not convinced, however, Anonymous will help because the group — like the public — appears split on the morality of the cause.

“From what I’ve seen, some people support the hack and others don’t,” she said. “Putting people’s sexual preferences and lives under the public limelight, I think a lot of people in Anonymous find pretty objectionable.”

Others, she said find it, "lulzy," and appreciate seeing prominent people, like judges and politicians exposed online.

 

[blackram]

I don't recall police ever asking one hacker group to help find another hacker group to punish them.

 

[cristycurves]

If the suicides are because of the hacker/s then they should be facing murder charges imo. For whatever the reason the hacker/s give to justify their act, it'll never be justified. Why anyone would want to harm so many for simply fooling around, I'll never understand.I hope they find him/her,them, soon.

 

[oldguyzer]

I find it hard to believe anyone would commit suicide over such an issue, so they must have had severe mental issues before the hack. Heck, my info is in that database, but I used a generic email and never gave them any identifying info other than my city. There's millions of names...what's the big deal? :-Cool/"

 

[cristycurves]

I find it hard to believe anyone would commit suicide over such an issue, so they must have had severe mental issues before the hack. Heck, my info is in that database, but I used a generic email and never gave them any identifying info other than my city. There's millions of names...what's the big deal? :-Cool/"

I suppose it's just how different people view and feel different things. Apparently for some, having an affair and having those details publicly posted is the worst that could happen. It's hard for you and I to understand, but for many, apparently, this is a grievously devastating issue and experience, one they couldn't get over.

 

[Madman]

Anyone who didn't use a fake email is an idiot, it really is that simple.

 

[blackram]

I find it hard to believe anyone would commit suicide over such an issue, so they must have had severe mental issues before the hack. Heck, my info is in that database, but I used a generic email and never gave them any identifying info other than my city. There's millions of names...what's the big deal? :-Cool/"

Anyone who didn't use a fake email is an idiot, it really is that simple.

As long as you didn't provide them with credit card information (where that information would appear right away), was there any need to even give them your real name?

 

[SQUISH]

Security guru says a woman hacked Ashley Madison
Eccentric cybersecurity guru John McAfee dropped a bombshell Monday when he told a U.K. newspaper the Ashley Madison hack and subsequent dump of client information was an inside job carried out by a woman.
After analysing data, McAfee, a nomadic bad-boy entrepreneur known as much for brushes with the law as he is for his namesake anti-virus software, explained his theory to the Toronto Sun Tuesday.
McAfee, now married and living in Tennessee, insists the culprit is a current or former female employee of Ashley Madison, a website with the slogan: Life is short. Have an affair.

 

[blackram]

Wouldn't surprise me if it turned out to be a woman techie.