Distraught!!

[peace]

Didnt realize the pension plan would be involved as well. yikes!!!!

 

[Auggie]

Actually, the homewrecker is the one sticking his dick in the wrong place..........

So, answer this: if the women sleeping with a married man is a homewrecker/tramp/slut.....what do you call a man sleeping with a married woman?

I thought that would go without saying, of course he's the main homewrecker. Are you saying the woman fucking a married man is at zero fault for breaking up the home?

 

[Insertion]

I thought that would go without saying, of course he's the main homewrecker. Are you saying the woman fucking a married man is at zero fault for breaking up the home?

In my opinion the woman or the man fucking the married individual carries some blame but a very small amount and that is only if they are aware of the truth. Many time the other woman/man is not aware of the hornet nest they have just exposed.

 

[tboy]

I thought that would go without saying, of course he's the main homewrecker. Are you saying the woman fucking a married man is at zero fault for breaking up the home?

Zero? No...Less? Yes. It's in a woman's nature to desire a man who is attached over a single man. In fact, over at the eharmony forums, there is overwelming evidence that a man who hasn't been married, or isn't, has "something wrong with him" and is a hell of a lot less desireable than a divorced man. Go figure? Women see a failed marriage as "better" than no marriage at all....

You still haven't answered my question too: what do you call a man sleeping with a married woman?

In my opinion the woman or the man fucking the married individual carries some blame but a very small amount and that is only if they are aware of the truth. Many time the other woman/man is not aware of the hornet nest they have just exposed.

I would just like to add to your post, the line "until it's too late". Meaning that the cheater doesn't let on that they're married until some attachment has been formed. I know many rag on me here but one thing you cannot rag on me about is my "honor". In the past, I've met and gotten involved with women and on a couple of occasions I found out they were either married or in a relationship. At that point I am out the door never to return. In fact, on once occasion we were naked on the bed getting ready to get down to business and I got up and left.

Peace: you're finally getting it. Yes, pension plans are an asset (with a future value) and are considered mutual property. The thing that kills me, I've heard that during the settlement, it is the FUTURE value that is considered, not the current value. Kind of like the possible selling price of the house....it isn't what it's worth now, it is based on what it MIGHT be.....

I think people are starting to realize why I am so against the current laws regarding marital property......and I will repeat: the very second she says "I do", dude has signed over his life as he knows it.....

 

[Auggie]

Zero? No...Less? Yes. It's in a woman's nature to desire a man who is attached over a single man. In fact, over at the eharmony forums, there is overwelming evidence that a man who hasn't been married, or isn't, has "something wrong with him" and is a hell of a lot less desireable than a divorced man. Go figure? Women see a failed marriage as "better" than no marriage at all....

You still haven't answered my question too: what do you call a man sleeping with a married woman?

A man fucking a married woman is a homewrecker. If he only sleeps with her it would be hard to believe so I'd say he'd end up with a broken marriage as well.

Are you saying it's in a woman's nature to be a homewrecker? That she can't help herself because of the way she's wired?
That doesn't give women much credit for using their brains.

 

[tboy]

A man fucking a married woman is a homewrecker. If he only sleeps with her it would be hard to believe so I'd say he'd end up with a broken marriage as well.

Are you saying it's in a woman's nature to be a homewrecker? That she can't help herself because of the way she's wired?
That doesn't give women much credit for using their brains.

No, I'm saying many are predisposed to be attracted to attached men. It is a conscious decision to act on those dispositions.......and yes, there are some women I give NO credit to since they don't use their brains when it comes to choosing a partner.....A great example of this are those that are surprised when they cheat with a man who is attached, then are surprised when he cheats on them. Another good example of this is women who not only are attracted to, but marry, and STAY married to abusive men. Another good example is: I had a platonic friend. She said she knew this guy and wanted to get to know him because he was a really great guy. After a few weeks I asked her if she'd made any progress. She said No. I asked why. She said because this really great guy was doing time for selling coke.....ahem, sorry, really great guys don't sell drugs......but not to her....

BTW: as I knew you would be, you pussyed out with the label for a man sleeping with a married woman. You had NO problem coming out and calling a woman a tramp/slut yet dance around like Fred Astaire when it comes to applying those same labels to men.

 

[peace]

so now I am not Fred Astaire anymore....this means Auggie is the new Fred Astaire....

 

[Dan]

Peace and Auggie, dance off challenge this weekend. First prize is a pussy!!!:he:

 

[peace]

Asian?

 

[Guido]

I want in on this dance off! I want a chance to win a pussy too!!!

 

[Barbara]

Since I have been through a cheating spouse recently LOL and I can honestly say I have not and will not approach the other woman. I place the blame completely on my ex's shoulders. I know some will say that I may be holding a lions share of the responsibility but I will respectfully agree to disagree. He chose to unzip his pants and play with another individual, I don't care what she did to entice him he could have said no. I ask why would I take any blame when.....

It was not my fault that he worked long hours and being a man had wandering eyes,
It is not my fault that he would come home, a warm meal waiting and me in sexy lingerie and tell me he was too tired,
It was not my fault he rather not talk but walk away when I wanted to have any discussion regarding our relationship, would tell me stop being such a drama queen.

So yes, whatever my lawyers say I am entitled too I will be requesting. Yes his pensionable future earning are included in the equity as they should be.

I am lucky considering he's self employed and still majority of his income if not all must be reported, I cannot elaborate but it is the way it is and I am thankful for it. :he:arty: Yes the party emoticon is intentional because after this divorce is finalized or maybe sooner, this ex-housewife is letting her hair down and moving on!arty:

 

[Auggie]

BTW: as I knew you would be, you pussyed out with the label for a man sleeping with a married woman. You had NO problem coming out and calling a woman a tramp/slut yet dance around like Fred Astaire when it comes to applying those same labels to men.

No, I answered. I said it goes without saying, I thought it was obvious that guys who fuck around on their spouses should be labeled that way.

I referred to the other woman as a tramp/slut/homewrecker partially in jest, because that's what the result was. Of course the guy who initiates the action is the main offender, I thought that was obvious.

 

[Auggie]

Yes the party emoticon is intentional because after this divorce is finalized or maybe sooner, this ex-housewife is letting her hair down and moving on!arty:

Party on! arty:

 

[tboy]

No, I answered. I said it goes without saying, I thought it was obvious that guys who fuck around on their spouses should be labeled that way.

I referred to the other woman as a tramp/slut/homewrecker partially in jest, because that's what the result was. Of course the guy who initiates the action is the main offender, I thought that was obvious.

Are you daft or just clueless?

I specifically asked you what label do you put on "men who get involved with MARRIED women"??? What part of that don't you understand?

Once again, I can hear the tap dancing all the way up here......

 

[tboy]

Since I have been through a cheating spouse recently LOL and I can honestly say I have not and will not approach the other woman.

I place the blame completely on my ex's shoulders. That is sexist. Why not put some of the blame on the woman? or is it because you're all sisters under the skin and realize my point is true that women find attached men infinitely more attractive? Or is it, as stated, that you (women) can't help yourselves?

I know some will say that I may be holding a lions share of the responsibility but I will respectfully agree to disagree

No one said you are holding the lion's share of the blame. Sorry, but in any couple there are two people, each has a part in how well the relationship works, or doesn't work....

. He chose to unzip his pants and play with another individual, I don't care what she did to entice him he could have said no.

That is true, but sorry, once again, the woman holds some responsibility. EOS.

I ask why would I take any blame when.....

It was not my fault that he worked long hours

But you certainly reaped the benefits of those long hours in your marriage and most certainly now. So you can't have it both ways, you can't have all the benefits of those long hours without any ramifications. The world doesn't work that way (except for musicians etc, they do something once and continued to get paid for it ad naseum)

and being a man had wandering eyes,

Ahem, how old are you? Please tell me that you're kidding when you allude to the fact that you're surprised a man has "wandering" eyes? Holy crap, no matter WHAT they say, every man looks.....

It is not my fault that he would come home, a warm meal waiting and me in sexy lingerie and tell me he was too tired,

Too tired from making that 6 figure income to buy you all the pretty things and that house you're living in. You are just one of many women who bitch and moan about how their husband is always working and never around yet not a peep comes out when they walk out of the store with that prada purse or jimmy chou's.....did you ever once think: I'll trade this BMW in anyday to have him home more? I'd rather live in an 800 sq ft shack if he'd just not work so much?

(this is one of those comments I know might cause a perfluffle)

Did you ever stop to consider that while you're off shopping, lazing around the house all day while the kids are at school, surpervising the maid and the gardener that maybe he WAS tired from working?

It was not my fault he rather not talk but walk away when I wanted to have any discussion regarding our relationship, would tell me stop being such a drama queen.

We're only hearing your version, maybe his would be different? As the story goes: there are three sides to every story.

So yes, whatever my lawyers say I am entitled too I will be requesting. Yes his pensionable future earning are included in the equity as they should be.

You are mistaken, we weren't discussing his future earnings, we were discussing his PENSION. Two totally different things and a pension, should NOT be included in the asset category because like most pensions, the value fluctuates and it could be worth nothing when it comes to retire....I know this from first hand experience: I worked for a large corporation for 17 yrs. In year 14, my pension was worth $275,000.00. When they laid me off and forced me to cash in my pension it was worth $32,000.00.....so if I was married and divorced at year 14, I would have paid her $116,000.00 too much......

One word of caution on the partying "letting your hair down" attitude. With the way the US economy is running I wouldn't be so quick to blow your windfall and count on him always being there. If for whatever reason his income isn't stable and he crashes, you could end up with NO alimony aka NO income.

 

[tboy]

I'm posting this separately as I want it to stand out:

the more I read Barbara's posts, the more I realize that, in her mind, she feels she is totally free from any or all responsibility for her failed marriage. She comes across thinking that she was the perfect wife in every way shape or form and other than the dented halo, is a perfect little angel and any man should give up their left nut to simply be in her presence (in the marriage).

In fact, to me, she comes across as like someone who thinks her shit don't stink. In my experience, those who think that way lay some of the biggest, baddest, and smelliest turds ever imagined.....

(lol ok, that was a little gross but you get the picture lol...now where's that video of the college guy who found a humongous turd in the female bathroom stall lol)

 

[peace]

Once again, I can hear the tap dancing all the way up here......

GUido! We both lost. I think Auggie won the prize. Dang!

 

[Auggie]

Are you daft or just clueless?

I specifically asked you what label do you put on "men who get involved with MARRIED women"??? What part of that don't you understand?

Once again, I can hear the tap dancing all the way up here......

I answered, but once again just for you... HOMEWRECKERS.
Why would it be different because of gender if someone comes between a husband and wife?

 

[Auggie]

I'm posting this separately as I want it to stand out:

the more I read Barbara's posts, the more I realize that, in her mind, she feels she is totally free from any or all responsibility for her failed marriage. She comes across thinking that she was the perfect wife in every way shape or form and other than the dented halo, is a perfect little angel and any man should give up their left nut to simply be in her presence (in the marriage).

In fact, to me, she comes across as like someone who thinks her shit don't stink. In my experience, those who think that way lay some of the biggest, baddest, and smelliest turds ever imagined.....

(lol ok, that was a little gross but you get the picture lol...now where's that video of the college guy who found a humongous turd in the female bathroom stall lol)

Point out what Barbara did wrong, please.

 

[Jerkthis]

T you can spin Barbara's story anyway you like but we both know she will win the battle if not the war. It's no longer a middle aged white man's world, if anything they are now the prey.