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Do you spank your kids?

No, because I don't have any.
I do however spank my monkey.
 
I believe spanking is a necessary tool which differs from beatings and abuse. The public is constantly complaining about the kids today not having any respect for authority while at the same time we get these people claiming no spanking at all should be allowed. The government needs to get out of our bedrooms and homes unless it's a criminal issue.
 
I never spank my kids but got the shit beating out of me by my parents.
 
I believe spanking is a necessary tool which differs from beatings and abuse. The public is constantly complaining about the kids today not having any respect for authority while at the same time we get these people claiming no spanking at all should be allowed. The government needs to get out of our bedrooms and homes unless it's a criminal issue.

The "happy happy joy joy" segment of society doesn't recognize that as a deterrent nothing is more effective than physical punishment. I'm not advocating whippings or beatings but if a child puts together that acting like a prick equals a smack on the bottom then he learns fast.
Again I am not a parent however I have watched my brother raise one ornery ill behaved and nasty little prick who disregards his authority.
And he's never spanked him.
My dog conducts himself better in public.
 
I have spanked my kids when they were younger....just lightly
 
My dog conducts himself better in public.

While training your dog did he not need being put in his/her place? A tug on the leash, a jab in the hind quarter while walking... ect..

I'm with you on this one, a swat on the backside not done in anger but as a lesson is a good thing.
 
I have spanked my kids all of three times ever. Every time was when they put their life or someone elses life at risk. I am not against it, but I also believe in most circumstances there is a much better way.
 
Agreed. As as long as you are consistent and fair. I administered a swat to the back-side once. People moan about the use of the time-out, but that is because they don't stick to it.
 
I have spanked my kids all of three times ever. Every time was when they put their life or someone elses life at risk. I am not against it, but I also believe in most circumstances there is a much better way.

Okay, I do not have children of my own, at least that I know of, and if I did, I would be an involved parent.

The Supreme Court of Canada ruled on this in 2004 and parents may spank in certain situations from the age of 2-12.

Those limits include:
  • Spanking could be used against children between the ages of two and 12 years old.
  • Children could not be disciplined with an object.
  • Hits to the head would be unacceptable
My parents were born in 1931 and 1932 both abroad. My dad hit me once and my mom regularly sent me to the .15 cent store to buy replacement wooden spoons. Back then, they came in packages of 10 for .50 cents, she'd keep 4 for cooking and 6 for me! One day I was 9 and was sent to get the spoons, well I returned home empty handed and told her they had sold out! My mom said, "Really, you stand over there and wait." She called the store, boy was I in shit! LOL

I came home drunk once I was 13 and my mom went wacko with the hitting and she was using an open hand. Well, I pissed her off something awful when I started laughing and said, "Mom, you hit like a girl!" Well didn't she hall off and swing hitting me in the shoulder and breaking three fingers! Boy did I feel bad. NOT!

I was about 10 and being a smartass, telling my mom that if she hit me again, I'd call the CAS! Wow was that a dumb move on my part! My dad instructed me to get my jacket and meet him and my mom at the car. I had no idea what was happening, but I knew it wouldn't be good! My bad drives to the CAS, and the three of us enter where a social worker met us. My dad said and my mom agreed, "Here, you keep until he gets it in that thick skull of his that we make the rules and he respects them." I'm like are you for real? My dad says, "You have one set of clothing that's on your back and the jacket can stay and that's it." Enjoy your new life son. Wow, I was scared shitless because the expression on my dad face and the silence of my mom, I knew they were serious. Of course, we went home, but not until there was a family discussion with the social worker, who didn't take either side.

Anyway, I screwed up at 16, my mom went to hit me so I blocked it, and just said, "I'm sorry but there's no need to hit me." They both agreed so they didn't talk to me for 3 days! LOL.

I chose a career path where I've seen the worst that society offers. Adults, teens and children, they are all sad becoming mad eventually becoming bad and it's a cycle difficult to survive and stop.

With all that said, I agree there are times to spank to correct behaviour as a teaching method, never spank more than once-it's overkill and unnecessary, explain what was wrong.

Examples:
Hand on the burner or fireplace.
Playing with lighters or matches.
Playing with cleaning products.
Teasing pets or other animals.
Stealing.
Lying.
Running away (in a store, parking lot, park)

There are two places that I would spank, the rear-end and the palm.

Hell, I remember when my mom would take me to Robinsons, Sears or Zellers as a child and could leave me in the toy section with other kids while the moms shopped, never any issues. That seems like a 100 years ago and could never happen now.

A principal gave me the leather strap I was 8, sent me home with a note for my parents. After dinner, my father called the priest (back then they were more important than anyone from the school board). My parents attended the school with me the next day, the monsignor was there waiting with the principal (male btw). There was no arguing or raised voices; my dad simple said to the principal, "If my son is out of line, you call our home or our employers and we will discipline him appropriately if we feel there is a need." I can recall this clearly stated by my dad, "Yesterday's incident is closed and never physically discipline our son again because you do not and will not ever have our permission to."

Didn't hurt that my dad was 6'5 280, retired military, played soccer and rugby in the land of Robbie Burns, and my mom was 5'0 foot nothing but a mean Frenchie! LOL.

Society needs to check and help those that have little or no coping skills with children. That should be mandated for everyone some may require a few days, some up to a year, some on-going and some may choose to surrender the child. There is no perfect solution. Hey, I'm all for mandated sterilization of those who can't handle parenthood or become baby-making machines for alittle extra coin, if you get my drift.

For two decades I coached minor sports at elite levels in Ontario, many went on to do very well academically and athletically but I packed up the drill and playbook, put the sneakers and whistle away because of parents, not players, parents. I always used a fair play until the final quarter theory, those who were playing well, saw the fourth. I became frustrated as players didn't show up for practise, 2x weekly for 90 minutes in no-less than 40 games through league/tournaments/travel. One day, two parents approach me with a piece of legislation that I'm familar with and say Coach HOF, you can't do these drills and windsprints as they are considered corporal punishment. I smiled politely, asked them to put their concern in writing and they did, it was sent to me, the club and the governing association. I was asked by the club and association what I wanted to do-simple give those two families their entire registration minus whatever deduction for expenses to date and be gone, free to play elsewhere the following season. Our team was sad for a week about losing players, but oh well, we won the Provincial title and finished 2nd nationally and I walked away after that season because of parents.
 
Fuck me, sounds like Hof's parents and mine went to the same school of child rearing lol...

Pretty much my story execpt they never actually drove me to the CAS, just threatened to call them to come and get me. Plus the last time my mother hit me she gave me a backhander and sprained her wrist.....and it wasn't only wooden spoons, her weapon of choice was a wire flyswatter and she wouldn't stop when the rubber end came off.

Yeah, she went WAY ovecommunity....but I tell you, when we went out to a restaurant? We were the most well behaved kids.....makes me cringe when I see brats running amok in restaurants these days......
 
'Just' the flyswatter? :P I graduated to wooden paint stick. Mom would ground me, and where the stick landed it landed. Bottom, legs, back, arms, head... Of course her favorite weapons were still guilt, fear, what others thought, and good enough wasn't good enough. I figure I was pretty much cowed around 10.

As for the strap in school. I never had the pleasure, to be honest. My first principle was a firm believer in it. Anyone caught fighting would get it. Plus anyone watching would get it. In grades 5 and 6, our classroom was adjoined to the principle's office. We got to hear the strappings.
 
Okay, I do not have children of my own, at least that I know of, and if I did, I would be an involved parent.

The Supreme Court of Canada ruled on this in 2004 and parents may spank in certain situations from the age of 2-12.

Those limits include:
  • Spanking could be used against children between the ages of two and 12 years old.
  • Children could not be disciplined with an object.
  • Hits to the head would be unacceptable
My parents were born in 1931 and 1932 both abroad. My dad hit me once and my mom regularly sent me to the .15 cent store to buy replacement wooden spoons. Back then, they came in packages of 10 for .50 cents, she'd keep 4 for cooking and 6 for me! One day I was 9 and was sent to get the spoons, well I returned home empty handed and told her they had sold out! My mom said, "Really, you stand over there and wait." She called the store, boy was I in shit! LOL

I came home drunk once I was 13 and my mom went wacko with the hitting and she was using an open hand. Well, I pissed her off something awful when I started laughing and said, "Mom, you hit like a girl!" Well didn't she hall off and swing hitting me in the shoulder and breaking three fingers! Boy did I feel bad. NOT!

I was about 10 and being a smartass, telling my mom that if she hit me again, I'd call the CAS! Wow was that a dumb move on my part! My dad instructed me to get my jacket and meet him and my mom at the car. I had no idea what was happening, but I knew it wouldn't be good! My bad drives to the CAS, and the three of us enter where a social worker met us. My dad said and my mom agreed, "Here, you keep until he gets it in that thick skull of his that we make the rules and he respects them." I'm like are you for real? My dad says, "You have one set of clothing that's on your back and the jacket can stay and that's it." Enjoy your new life son. Wow, I was scared shitless because the expression on my dad face and the silence of my mom, I knew they were serious. Of course, we went home, but not until there was a family discussion with the social worker, who didn't take either side.

Anyway, I screwed up at 16, my mom went to hit me so I blocked it, and just said, "I'm sorry but there's no need to hit me." They both agreed so they didn't talk to me for 3 days! LOL.

I chose a career path where I've seen the worst that society offers. Adults, teens and children, they are all sad becoming mad eventually becoming bad and it's a cycle difficult to survive and stop.

With all that said, I agree there are times to spank to correct behaviour as a teaching method, never spank more than once-it's overkill and unnecessary, explain what was wrong.

Examples:
Hand on the burner or fireplace.
Playing with lighters or matches.
Playing with cleaning products.
Teasing pets or other animals.
Stealing.
Lying.
Running away (in a store, parking lot, park)

There are two places that I would spank, the rear-end and the palm.

Hell, I remember when my mom would take me to Robinsons, Sears or Zellers as a child and could leave me in the toy section with other kids while the moms shopped, never any issues. That seems like a 100 years ago and could never happen now.

A principal gave me the leather strap I was 8, sent me home with a note for my parents. After dinner, my father called the priest (back then they were more important than anyone from the school board). My parents attended the school with me the next day, the monsignor was there waiting with the principal (male btw). There was no arguing or raised voices; my dad simple said to the principal, "If my son is out of line, you call our home or our employers and we will discipline him appropriately if we feel there is a need." I can recall this clearly stated by my dad, "Yesterday's incident is closed and never physically discipline our son again because you do not and will not ever have our permission to."

Didn't hurt that my dad was 6'5 280, retired military, played soccer and rugby in the land of Robbie Burns, and my mom was 5'0 foot nothing but a mean Frenchie! LOL.

Society needs to check and help those that have little or no coping skills with children. That should be mandated for everyone some may require a few days, some up to a year, some on-going and some may choose to surrender the child. There is no perfect solution. Hey, I'm all for mandated sterilization of those who can't handle parenthood or become baby-making machines for alittle extra coin, if you get my drift.

For two decades I coached minor sports at elite levels in Ontario, many went on to do very well academically and athletically but I packed up the drill and playbook, put the sneakers and whistle away because of parents, not players, parents. I always used a fair play until the final quarter theory, those who were playing well, saw the fourth. I became frustrated as players didn't show up for practise, 2x weekly for 90 minutes in no-less than 40 games through league/tournaments/travel. One day, two parents approach me with a piece of legislation that I'm familar with and say Coach HOF, you can't do these drills and windsprints as they are considered corporal punishment. I smiled politely, asked them to put their concern in writing and they did, it was sent to me, the club and the governing association. I was asked by the club and association what I wanted to do-simple give those two families their entire registration minus whatever deduction for expenses to date and be gone, free to play elsewhere the following season. Our team was sad for a week about losing players, but oh well, we won the Provincial title and finished 2nd nationally and I walked away after that season because of parents.

Holy shit.

Hi little brother.
 
I once got it with a black frying pan in the ass, a boot to the ass, a backhander to the shoulder but honestly when I look back I deserved every bit of it. By the time I was 15 my parents and I were best of friends. My Mom would do anything in the world for me and so did my Dad. I wake up breakfast was ready, I come home lunch was ready and dinner. I eventually moved out and still I was sent food over and anything I needed all I had to do was ask. My sister on the other hand was only hit once and that's because she walked in after mid-night. She deserved it so when she walked passed me I smacked her one too, HEY that's what big brothers are for! :biggrin:
 
LOL @ guido I hear you...my older brother used to disappear to parts unknown when my parents got back from their 3 and 4 week vacations. We'd "clean" as well as an 11 and 13 yr old could but of course it was never good enough and I'd be stuck getting yelled at and having to reclean everything.

Then he'd show up after they'd gone to bed, the next morning he'd get "the place was a mess"....I'd sit there with my mouth open and say "what?????? that's IT"????

Then no matter what, if they were scheduled to come home a certain day, I would make sure I was GONE. One time I couldn't find a buddy to hang out with so I sat outside the highschool down the street for 5 hrs.....They asked me where I was I told them..of cource they yelled at me for that too...but the next day, my brother was there cleaning with me......one time they came home early and caught me at home, I bolted out the back door carrying my shoes, heard them yell for me and I kept on going lol......I wasn't going to get dragged back in, no matter what. (yeah I got shit for that too but again, my brother was there the next day cleaning with me).

The thing that always bugged me the most is they just couldn't see the unfairness of it.

As for the punishments I received. Yeah, there were times when I deserved something, but a LOT of the times it was just because my mother was in a bad mood over something. To make matters worse she'd tell "horror" stories of how bad her mother gave it to her yet not see that she was doing the exact same thing.

I finally got into it with her one time when I was in my 20's when she said something about "you can't do anything to kids these days" and I replied with something "better nothing than what you did to us" she came back with "oh it wasn't like that...." I said "BULLSHIT...you didn't see the welts on my legs and back? No kid ever deserved something like that.....ever".

I remember one time I was watching tv and my brother opened his mouth and she pulled out the wire and chased him into the room I was in. She was swinging so wildly I said "hey hey, I didn't do anything" then she started hitting me because I didn't get out of the way quick enough.....

As I said: no kid ever deserves that. Whether it is once, or ten times......a swat when they're bad? yeah, ok. But to be beaten? (unless of course they were bullying another kid, playing with a gun, or something really REALLY serious).
 
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