Still making friends...Or not! Suspect I will really light up the board tonight...

[jumpingjackflash]

Is that acceptable by the hobbyists?

Yes it is! Now can we see pictures please?:clapping2:

 

[tboy]

One thing many are missing here is that I didn't say I don't want the ladies here, I said I don't want to have to change the way we interact with each other or what kinds of topics we discuss BECAUSE there are women here...that's a BIG difference.

But as for "not being treated like one of the guys"...contradiction thy name is woman. I am woman hear me roar just treat me better or different than you treat other men. I am equal to you in all things, just treat me different. Sorry, that's contradiction 101. I realize men and women have different brains, does that mean you get special treatment? does that men I can't call you an ass when you're being an ass? If you make a fool out of yourself can I not point and laugh?> NO < Does that mean if you say the world is flat I MUST MUST agree with you because you have tits? NO.

The thing about different brain chemistry and make up means we approach the world differently. Doesn't mean the facts of the world are different. It means we approach problem solving differently, we may have different emotional triggers but none the less, if I don't agree with something you're saying, unlike many others, I will disagree with you whether you have a different brain or not.

Using Bliss's post as an example: SHe states this isn't a locker room....and because women's brains are different should we accept that as pure 100% fact simply because she states it? NO FUCKING way......I say this IS a locker room and state reasons why......the "because I said so" argument may have worked when we guys were 3 years old but it doesn't fly now......

Once more and then I'm done: don't want to be treated like one of the guys...ok, then don't hang out with us. SImple as that. I remember a bunch of us guys would go shoot pool at a local pool hall. Ok, so a couple of the gf's wanted to come...fine...then we are on the way there and they start chirping up with "ok, why don't we go here instead? why don't we do this INSTEAD blah blah blah..." wait, ffs, you're coming with US on our POOL night, stfu if you don't like where we're going and what we're doing, there's the door.......

 

[oldguyzer]

I also believe that I should be given special treatment JUST because I am a girl.

YES you heard right, open the door, buy me dinner, treat me like a princess.

Anneliese

What you describe should apply whether it's men or women. Hold the door, be polite, buy your companion dinner (regardless of male or female). Common courtesies and also just plain polite.

But we are different, no denying that but to treat a woman as "one of the guys" or expect her to do the same in a forum is a ridiculous.... better then to make it a "male gender-only" forum. Cause this princess likes her tiara and expects to treated like the princess she is, whether in or out of the locker room. (And I am being over-the-top, and tongue-in-cheek here.... just saying)

Anneliese

Yes, we're different, and as long as men want what women have, we'll treat you nicely in order to get it. All-men clubs are as boring as all-women clubs, as well as eliteist for no other reason than to say "I'm a member and you're not...".

 

[-b]

One thing many are missing here is that I didn't say I don't want the ladies here, I said I don't want to have to change the way we interact with each other or what kinds of topics we discuss BECAUSE there are women here...that's a BIG difference.



Using Bliss's post as an example: SHe states this isn't a locker room....and because women's brains are different should we accept that as pure 100% fact simply because she states it? NO FUCKING way......I say this IS a locker room and state reasons why......the "because I said so" argument may have worked when we guys were 3 years old but it doesn't fly now......

Where did I state....women's brains are different.......

It not a locker room....it is a forum .....

Ladies....when you say anything tboy does not like.....he start to put you down, call
names so on so, on.......You are opening up a can of worms......

If you want the site to be like it was before where people were being attacked by a group
just like High School ...well just say so.......

Before there was hardly anyone here is the Lobby...because of the attacking ....
tboy if that is what you want by all means do it.....attack.....
We talk sex, all other things...here..... When I started a thread about Daty, you were one of the people who was upset with me...and how I enjoy going down on a woman.....what tboy...you want to call me ,
mental, idiot, stupid, retard, make fun of my writing, spelling, what you would do to me if we met....etc......

I stay away from some post because I do not agree with them but you do not
hear me say anything....Like rating women....when I first came on wrote how I felt...
I understood what was being said........by some of the guys......

So if you want to be in an locker room....tboy...that fine if you want to think that
way ....turn the site back to the old site......with mean remarks...to men and women..
play with your balls like you are that Macho....all you will do is drive people away.....
which has happened....who wants to come on to be called names, laugh at about what they
write...made fun of ....attack, attack, attack, .....What site would it be.....let me say this...
the one that Closed Down......

 

[Ms.FemmeFatale]

FF:

When I say I treat women no differently than men I mean I don't cowtow to the pussy simply because it's a pussy, or because a woman has one. In other words, if a woman says something totally outrageous and complete BS I'm gonna say "that's complete BS" unlike many on the boards who secretly disagree with her but won't say anything because she's a woman. Believe me, when I get into it with you, Bliss, Genie, or any of the others I get a ton of pm's saying they agree with me and then I say state it in the thread ballless...... That is so funny because I get so many PMs saying the same thing to me. How people agree, how they like seeing you get ripped a new one, etc.

I find this in real life too...guys will take me aside and say "what a bitch" yet to her face they are all nicey nicey poopy poo to her.....I so fricken HATE that, I think it demeans women.....

Another good example: (and you hear this all the time) a woman, in an argument will call a guy a fucking cocksucker.....and most men will only use the word bitch.....because, what else are they going to call them? I will call them a cunt then you get "OMFG how dare you call me that" I say, well, if you want to start swapping degrading terms, why should I edit simply because you have tits? I don;t think you need to go as far as calling people certain names. Sorry but that is how I am. I think I can show that I am bigger person then to name call like that. I am not going to in the arguement with a black person call them a nigger simply to enjoy pissing the person off. Bitch, fine - asshole ok. Goof -no, cunt - no. There are some words that are just not needed and this is why I have little respect for people like you. Because you use the term for the purpose of its negativity to cause a hurtful and anger reaction. It is childish in my opinion, but if you think it helps you, all the power to ya.

Oh no, don't say that, there's a woman present...so fucking what?

It has nothing to do with control, it has to do with respect. I respect women enough to treat them no differently than I treat men. If you're nice? I'll treat you nice. If you're an asshole? I'll treat you like an asshole.....whether you have tits or not. EQUALITY IN ALL THINGS

As for this no longer being a locker room, sorry, you're mistaken. I think we have 10 active female posters and how many men? 100? How many male members do we have? I dunno but we have 12488 members and I bet not 1% of them are female...that makes this a locker room....always has been and always will be....

I disagree. It is not a locker room anymore when 1 woman is welcomed and encouraged to be here. That is my opinion. Don't like it, call me a cunt.

why? because she has tits? If that was a guy posting would you say the same thing? (either way, did I say anything that wasn't true? in fact, didn't someone else say the exact same thing in another thread? (about something going over their head).

To expond on the analogy a bit more....I know this is a "locker room" due to the following. I belong to a number of other forums. Namely Redflagdeals, HD forums, etc. and have been banned from eharmony's, and had temp bans from POF and Match.com for the following:
1) I have used the word "fuck" or variations at least 10 times here so far this week. On any other site I would be warned the first time, and banned the second time. The word "fuck" is a common term in a men's locker room.
2) Here we men rate women's pictures. This would NOT be tolerated on any other mainstream forum.
3) Here men discuss women, something that is commonly done in a locker room
4) Here men discuss ex-wves, ex-girlfriends and fucking them, something commonly done in a locker room.
5) Here we post naked pictures of women, something usually stuck to the door inside of a locker.....which is located in a...wait for it....ROOM hence why it is called a...wait for it....LOCKER ....ahem...ROOM

If you (bliss) don't like the analogy, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.......

This is why I believe you have a secret hate for women. That you see the world as Men vrs women and it is very childish in my opinion. I am not saying treat someone special because they have tits. Never once did I say that. But hey, you will think and do what you want. I think you are purposefully rude and negative and simply enjoy upsetting people. It is what it is. I wouldn't doubt that you would take candy from a baby just to enjoy seeing it cry. Some people are just like that. I have learned to live it. I simply walk away.

ummm bliss? of course I think I'm right....who on earth goes around thinking they're wrong all the time? That's insane........

You see, the difference between you and me is that when I state my opinion on something, I usually have valid, logical reasons for doing so.....unlike you who simply says "that's not right"........and then base that opinion on drug induced schizo reasoning with no basis on reality.....then when you're proven wrong you usually come out with "boo hoo hoo everyone hates me"......

I admit I am wrong all the time. Lots of people do. I don't think I am wrong all the time, but I sure as shit make many mistakes, and I am not afraid to admit to them. You have the opinion that you have valid logical reasons. Again that is your opinion. Doesn't mean it is right.

 

[oldguyzer]

I admit I am wrong all the time. I don't think I am wrong all the time.

Well, you could be right on both those statements depending on which order you read them :biggrin2:

 

[Ms.FemmeFatale]

man, I just go through one page and then there is another. I am not going to keep dancing around in circles.

I am sorry we invaded your little space TBOY. I am sorry that other men here in your locker room asked for more ladies here. I am sorry that the men here asked what could be changed to have more ladies here.

Totally our fault for asking to be asked to here.

I am out. If ladies are not welcomed and wanted and men are not willing to compromise to make this enjoyable for both sexes, then there is no point being here. This I am not willing to change anything for women simply because she is a woman is bullshit. It is compromise on both sides, but according to TBOY anything like is bowing to a woman and you lose your man card. Nothing to do with being a grown ass man who can be willing to change for a great purpose and enjoyment for all. Nope, can't do that at all.

Enjoy all the swinging cocks here. Cause that is so much better then having some pussy around. Thanks Tboy - your logic was so sound on this one!

 

[Ms.FemmeFatale]

Well, you could be right on both those statements depending on which order you read them :biggrin2:

They are two very true statements. I do not THINK I am wrong ALL the time - of course I don't, but I find I ADMIT I am wrong all the time,. Just cause I don't think I am at the time, doesn't mean that someone has not pointed it out to me and I then have to admit my mistake.

Anyway, we are not wanted here, so I will take me and the ladies I bring else where. It is not that big of deal.

I know Tboy will come back and say that is not what he said, but I don't go to someone's house who will not take the time to welcome me. Why would I? Why go to someone;s house who will not offer a drink, who will not tidy up for me, who will not get up off the couch and come to the door and let me, who will not stop watching TV to have a polite conversation and who will not call me a cunt simply because I disagree with them.

We are not welcomed by him, so as I see it, he really doesn't want us here.

 

[oldguyzer]

Jusat 'cause one member maybe doesn't want you here doesn't mean the rest of us don't... :BigHug:

 

[Ms.FemmeFatale]

Jusat 'cause one member maybe doesn't want you here doesn't mean the rest of us don't... :BigHug:

According to him, he gets PMs all the time from "men to pussy to say anything" that agree with him. He acts as though he speaks for all men because he is the only one with balls apparently big enough to do so. What I am suppose to believe?

Personally I don't know why anyone here wants Tboy speaking on behalf of them as males since he just basically called most of you pussies. Maybe he just has a thing for pussy, or against pussy.

I don't know, it is too confusing. Seems better to just walk away. I already know he is not a man of compromise. So what is the point? To set myself up to be called a cunt when he doesn't like what I say and because I am always trying to better myself and will not resort to calling him the most mean, negative and hurtful names in return. Sorry but I don't play that game.

Enjoy your sausage fest of rating women on screen and women you've paid but not having anything else to do with REAL women who are here to communicate and enjoy your online company for FREE. Cause that makes TOTAL sense, but hey - I am just a woman so my opinion will mean shit.

 

[Art Mann]

You're not alone, Ms Femme

You're not alone, Ms Femme




When something goes wrong
I'm the first to admit it
I'm the first to admit it
But the last one to know
when something goes right
Well it's likely to lose me
It's apt to confuse me
It's such an unusual sight
I can't get used to something so right
Something so right

 

[redvelvet]

I am staying, digging my heels in!
You call me an ass, I call you an ass, big deal, it doesn't matter what sex you are, you can still laugh, talk, debate.

So let the games begin, Oh and REPOMAN, let me see yours first baby!:whip::whip:

 

[Art Mann]

Illegitimi non carborundum

Illegitimi non carborundum

Don't let the bastards grind you down, ladies.

 

[Madman]

FemmeFatale I believe you are guilty of painting everyone with the same brush. Tboy like you and I has a right to his opinion but it's one man's opinion and if it's 3 or 4 people's opinion I believe the board has many more that will have different view points. Isn't that what makes a forum interesting, different view points so relax, sit back and allow me to look up your skirt which unfortunately I couldn't do Wednesday night but i will make it out next time!!

 

[Ms.FemmeFatale]

Don't let the bastards grind you down, ladies.

It is choosing your battles hon. I am not going to continue to "battle" for my right to be here and to be treated with the kind of respect I think I deserve. Not that I deserve it because I am woman but because I am person, a member here and I think I being value. I have been told that I don't by a man who will continue to beat for his sheer enjoyment and inner hatred for the roles that the sexes have on the world.

So not to worry. I will not let the door hit me in the ass on the way out.

 

[redvelvet]

The Voice of Reason

The Voice of Reason

According to him, he gets PMs all the time from "men to pussy to say anything" that agree with him. He acts as though he speaks for all men because he is the only one with balls apparently big enough to do so. What I am suppose to believe?

Personally I don't know why anyone here wants Tboy speaking on behalf of them as males since he just basically called most of you pussies. Maybe he just has a thing for pussy, or against pussy.

I don't know, it is too confusing. Seems better to just walk away. I already know he is not a man of compromise. So what is the point? To set myself up to be called a cunt when he doesn't like what I say. Sorry but I don't play that game.

Enjoy your sausage fest of rating women on screen and women you've paid but not having anything else to do with REAL women who are here to communicate and enjoy your online company for FREE. Cause that makes TOTAL sense, but hey - I am just a woman so my opinion will mean shit.

Ms. Femme Fatale

You need to stay please, your the voice of reason
Sometimes if you ignore some one they will eventually change how they behave
Or they will just go away

But you have the ability to pick a thread apart in seconds and give rationale, intelligent and often humourous answers.
You make people think about what was said, and often give suggestions on how to handle things
I enjoy your interpretation of things

Having said that I may not always agree with you, but I do like to debate!

 

[papasmerf]

I have been watching this locker room crap go tit for tat.

I believe this is meant to be a round table.
Where everyone has the same right to speak.

Not a locker room where the bullies run it and you are expected to join them or get out.

 

[Ms.FemmeFatale]

FemmeFatale I believe you are guilty of painting everyone with the same brush. Tboy like you and I has a right to his opinion but it's one man's opinion and if it's 3 or 4 people's opinion I believe the board has many more that will have different view points. Isn't that what makes a forum interesting, different view points so relax, sit back and allow me to look up your skirt which unfortunately I couldn't do Wednesday night but i will make it out next time!!

He acts as if he speaks for the brotherhood with his comments of how SOOOOO many men agree with him but you are all too pussy to say anything. I am sorry but talk to your boy. He is not one man's opinion, he is the voice of all men. That is his painting, not mine.

 

[Art Mann]

I have been watching this locker room crap go tit for tat.. . .

Some guys are really into their own tats.

I prefer tits.

 

[Art Mann]

He acts as if he speaks for the brotherhood with his comments of how SOOOOO many men agree with him but you are all too pussy to say anything. I am sorry but talk to your boy. He is not one man's opinion, he is the voice of all men. That is his painting, not mine.

He's not my boy . . . and he's already made it clear I'm a pussy for the things I say.