This is why American home owners will never give up their guns.

[Buckfifty]

A California family was enjoying the Christmas holiday as the children were having a sleepover when a home intruder broke into their home. The homeowner, who was looking to protect his family took action and shot and killed the invader. A gun battle occurred at 3:30 A.M. on Saturday morning outside of the home. The homeowner was treated for gunshot wounds along with two other suspects.


The Identification of the deceased home intruder has not yet been released. 21-year-old Thomas Ordonaz, who was also injured in the shooting was later arrested on charges of assault with a deadly weapon and accessory.

 

[papasmerf]

good on him for taking them down and protecting his loved ones

 

[God]

Wow good on him. I wonder if the hoods new children were having a sleepover.

 

[papasmerf]

Wow good on him. I wonder if the hoods new children were having a sleepover.

they brought guns to the party and used them.
they did not care who was there or who they killed.

 

[Admiral]

There goes Obama's new bill down the toilet. :biggrin2:

 

[Anto]

Good on him.

 

[Curly]

Fine, now I must agree what Papa is preaching.

 

[cycleguy007]

There was a similar story in Canada in recent years, (if memory serves). There was a guy who was enduring some extreme vandalism and safety for his home and family. Not sure what the motivation was for some hoodlums, but they were tossing Molotov cocktails at his home and endangering the lives of his family and dogs. He got his gun (he was a license owner, ex-military or shooting instructor or something) and fired a number of rounds in the air.

As you would guess, the police were called, and charges were laid...

AT THE OWNER OF THE HOME! :SayWhat?:

 

[papasmerf]

Fine, now I must agree what Papa is preaching.

there is a mindset out there, that believes making it illegal to own guns will make them go away.
I just point out the stupidity in that thought.
Criminals by their very nature will always look to get an edge on their victims in most circumstances that means guns.

I myself do not own a gun but have checked out on more than I can count.
I do not own one because I do not feel the need. I do not hunt nor target shoot.
I feel no need to carry or have a gun for personal protection. I can easily identify enough weapons for that.
That is not to say I would not use one if I had to.

nearly every gun owner hopes they never find themself in the situation this man was in.


The fact he did not panic and showed decisive action says he was well trained.

I will bet the thugs who invaded his home had no clue he would fight back.

I have talked several people out of owning a gun for personal protection by asking a simple question:
If you were in a situation where you had to pull your gun could you place a bullet between the eyes of the person who made that necessary? Because if you do not you will be shot by your own gun.

 

[Longomaster]

I say the same thing.

 

[tboy]

Papa: that is THE problem with gun control....the NRA says "any" gun control is wrong and they would cite the above story as a reason why.....

The thing is, no one wants to ban guns of any kind, just have some semblence of sane control over who can obtain one. Nothing wrong with that.

As for CG's story, I sort of remember that but it wasn't the fact that he had a weapon or discharged it, it was how he did it. Bullets fired into the air are NOT harmless....when they reach the apex of their trajectory you would think they have expended their velocity, they haven't. WHat goes up must come down and the thing is, when fired into the air, you don't know where they will come down. THey are lethal when they are coming down.

There was a csi episode where a mother was on her front lawn with her husband and all of a sudden collapsed and died. It turns out she was shot. THe bullet was fired a mile away during a backyard party and the host fired his ak into the air......

He would have been better to fire into the ground or into the hoodlums. Still, probably would have been charged but he'd at least know where the bullets ended up.

 

[papasmerf]

Papa: that is THE problem with gun control....the NRA says "any" gun control is wrong and they would cite the above story as a reason why.....

The thing is, no one wants to ban guns of any kind, just have some semblence of sane control over who can obtain one. Nothing wrong with that.

Perhaps, you can tell me what the law is where I live and how long it takes to get a gun permit?

 

[Shiek]

Perhaps, you can tell me what the law is where I live and how long it takes to get a gun permit?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_by_state

 

[papasmerf]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_by_state

here each individual county controls the permits and I live in one that is more liberal than the white house

 

[cycleguy007]

As for CG's story... Still, probably would have been charged but he'd at least know where the bullets ended up.

Ya, I don't remember what he was charged with... I think it was unlawful discharge of a firearm or something, but my point was that (if memory serves), nothing was done to reprimand or deter the hoodlums terrorizing his home. :SayWhat?:

 

[Madman]

The big push from Obama and pundits like Piers Morgan is to ban assault rifles and magazines that allow a killer to carry a shit load of ammo. I have not once heard anyone in the US claimed to take peoples regular fire arms away or not be able to defend their homes and loved ones.

The problem in Canada is as CG illustrated, our laws go to far in condemning the innocent victim. The police automatically lay charges if one defends himself and sure the courts usually are smart enough to do the right thing but at the cost of bankrupting the victim financially.

 

[tboy]

Ya, I don't remember what he was charged with... I think it was unlawful discharge of a firearm or something, but my point was that (if memory serves), nothing was done to reprimand or deter the hoodlums terrorizing his home. :SayWhat?:

Yeah, I remember that too....it also reminds me of the issues many residents were having down at the junction where one family was terrorizing the neighbourhood and the police were doing nothing about it (since they had never been caught in the act and there was no concrete evidence showing who was doing it). Finally after the story broke they put on surveillance (I think) and actually witnessed the family committed crimes and put out peace bonds that certain members had to stay 20 kms away or something.....

This also reminds me of a recent story where (east indian I think) a young couple came home and saw a pair of strange running shoes inside the door. The young girl went to call the police and the guy grabbed a bat and went to check on their invalid mother. There was a black kid in the room with her going through the drawers and he beat the crap outta him. The black kid was let off on a deal for his testimony and the guy was arrested and charged with assault and battery or something like that.

Now I don't think we should have laws like many of the states do (shoot to kill first and ask questions later) but we should be allowed to protect ourselves and our property. Didn't harpo or mcsquinty recently modify the laws that gave us more leeway in protecting ourselves? I'll have to look it up when I have time.....

 

[cycleguy007]

Now I don't think we should have laws like many of the states do (shoot to kill first and ask questions later) but we should be allowed to protect ourselves and our property. Didn't harpo or mcsquinty recently modify the laws that gave us more leeway in protecting ourselves? I'll have to look it up when I have time.....

Name one thing a politician has done in recent years that was actually USEFUL to everyday, law abiding, tax paying individuals... Hmmmmmm (not including special interest groups, lobbyists, or new immigrants...)

Go on... just one thing...





















:Waiting:

 

[tboy]

^^^^ hence why I say no politician should be allowed to run for office of any kind......

 

[tboy]

here's the proposed/changed laws: