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I've always been very leery about the wannabe "nice guy" but since I don't know him or of him I'll leave it at that.
 
Latest on Twitter, Jillian from Cupids outed a long time client because he was accused of stealthing one of the ladies. I hope this was really the case and it's really deserved because if not it really makes the case for not giving out your real name and phone number.

His address, name and number is being re-tweeted over and over on twitter.
 
BuzzSaw said:
Latest on Twitter, Jillian from Cupids outed a long time client because he was accused of stealthing one of the ladies. I hope this was really the case and it's really deserved because if not it really makes the case for not giving out your real name and phone number.

His address, name and number is being re-tweeted over and over on twitter.
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I don't see the problem though. I doubt the lady is lying about it and, personally, I would like to know so I can keep myself safe and not book him.
 
While I don't support outing, and probably could add several names/numbers to the list myself, I do hope this makes some of these fucks think twice before doing it to another lady. You would be shocked at how many men try.

BuzzSaw said:
Latest on Twitter, Jillian from Cupids outed a long time client because he was accused of stealthing one of the ladies. I hope this was really the case and it's really deserved because if not it really makes the case for not giving out your real name and phone number.

His address, name and number is being re-tweeted over and over on twitter.
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BuxomBabeTO said:
I don't see the problem though. I doubt the lady is lying about it and, personally, I would like to know so I can keep myself safe and not book him.
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Curious. How do you feel about punters who out a lady who has allegedly offered BBFS? I've read many quickly-deleted reviews where a lady was accused of this. In most of the cases, I doubted the reviewer was lying about it, and I was glad to know so I could keep myself safe and not book her. Yet the online backlash against those reviewers was astounding for having the audacity to accuse a lady of something publicly that could not be independently substantiated. Hmmmmmm
 
We aren't talking about someone who asked about BBFS, we are talking about someone who FORCED it on a provider. Huge difference.

demien3k5 said:
Curious. How do you feel about punters who out a lady who has allegedly offered BBFS? I've read many quickly-deleted reviews where a lady was accused of this. In most of the cases, I doubted the reviewer was lying about it, and I was glad to know so I could keep myself safe and not book her. Yet the online backlash against those reviewers was astounding for having the audacity to accuse a lady of something publicly that could not be independently substantiated. Hmmmmmm
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LadyJacklyn said:
We aren't talking about someone who asked about BBFS, we are talking about someone who FORCED it on a provider. Huge difference.
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How do we know that actually happened? Because she said so? Because Jillian said so? For the record, I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm saying no one knows for sure except the lady and the client. To my knowledge, it wasn't the lady herself who outed the client, it was the agency owner/manager who has a history of spiteful, inappropriate behaviour.

I don't condone rape in any context, but I also think that sober second thought should rule before outing someone. Seems attitudes towards outing these days seems to have become almost flippant in nature.
 
There doesn't seem to be any agenda that would make sense for any part of that being made up. And us ladies know how frequently it happens. That being said, private lounge sharing of information could be utilised so much more than it is these days, I rarely see any ladies sharing BBFS attempters #s and names anymore, probably because there are just too many. I am hearing tonnes of ladies (and I can attest to this) stating how much requests for BBFS have increased and how scary it is becoming so perhaps we need to focus on a solution that we can all agree on? Maybe we really need to start urging Canadian women to start using verifyhim, not just for searches but reporting as well. I guess only time will tell what will work but I think we can all agree that there needs to be some kind of unifying force to help get this under control.



demien3k5 said:
How do we know that actually happened? Because she said so? Because Jillian said so? For the record, I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm saying no one knows for sure except the lady and the client. To my knowledge, it wasn't the lady herself who outed the client, it was the agency owner/manager who has a history of spiteful, inappropriate behaviour.

I don't condone rape in any context, but I also think that sober second thought should rule before outing someone. Seems attitudes towards outing these days seems to have become almost flippant in nature.
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LadyJacklyn said:
There doesn't seem to be any agenda that would make sense for any part of that being made up. And us ladies know how frequently it happens. That being said, private lounge sharing of information could be utilised so much more than it is these days, I rarely see any ladies sharing BBFS attempters #s and names anymore, probably because there are just too many. I am hearing tonnes of ladies (and I can attest to this) stating how much requests for BBFS have increased and how scary it is becoming so perhaps we need to focus on a solution that we can all agree on? Maybe we really need to start urging Canadian women to start using verifyhim, not just for searches but reporting as well. I guess only time will tell what will work but I think we can all agree that there needs to be some kind of unifying force to help get this under control.
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On occasion I've posted in the Public Service Announcement section on the red board and rarely get any PMs inquiring about the contact info of the offenders.
 
LadyJacklyn said:
There doesn't seem to be any agenda that would make sense for any part of that being made up.
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Aw, c'mon....really? I'm going to call this a pretty naive statement, especially coming from an experienced provider like you.

And yes, there is a very alarming trend of men soliciting BBFS these days. I hear it almost every every week, every session as the number one concern that ladies are being forced to deal with. There are likely a number of methods that could be used to a greater extent to curb this behavior, but I won't deign to preach to a female community that already knows how. Rather I'd echo your comment that an increase of information sharing among and between providers would definitely help.

But you still haven't addressed the two issues I mentioned. 1) how should guys deal with providers who OFFER BBFS? and 2) is indiscriminate outing of clients the right solution to every slight, either real or perceived?
 
demien3k5 said:
Aw, c'mon....really? I'm going to call this a pretty naive statement, especially coming from an experienced provider like you.

And yes, there is a very alarming trend of men soliciting BBFS these days. I hear it almost every every week, every session as the number one concern that ladies are being forced to deal with. There are likely a number of methods that could be used to a greater extent to curb this behavior, but I won't deign to preach to a female community that already knows how. Rather I'd echo your comment that an increase of information sharing among and between providers would definitely help.

But you still haven't addressed the two issues I mentioned. 1) how should guys deal with providers who OFFER BBFS? and 2) is indiscriminate outing of clients the right solution to every slight, either real or perceived?
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1) They shouldn't (IMHO). What two consenting adults choose to do in private is between them. The issue here, again, is about forced BBFS. Does this mean I condone BBFS in the biz? No, I hate that it's a thing for several reasons, the heightened amount of requests mean less legit business and more bullshit texts, not to mention the fear with every new client that they may try and I will have to kick their ass out and risk getting hurt in doing so.

That being said, if a provider chooses to offer it there is nothing I, or you or anyone else, can do about it, and shaming them wont change a damned thing. As for client risk, sex outside of monogamy is always a risk, you could just as easily pick something up from a girl who doesn't offer BBFS but has BB sex with her spouse who passed something on to her, or a civie, or whatever. If you're worried, use protection, or don't hobby.

As for your second question, I already said I don't necessarily condone the public outing, I think there are other solutions such as private lounges and websites like verifyhim which are absolutely necessary and should be used. Blacklisting is paramount to provider safety!
 
BuzzSaw said:
Latest on Twitter, Jillian from Cupids outed a long time client because he was accused of stealthing one of the ladies. I hope this was really the case and it's really deserved because if not it really makes the case for not giving out your real name and phone number.

His address, name and number is being re-tweeted over and over on twitter.
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Isn't this enough for pooners not to book with her agency?.
 
This is from a lawyer in regards to this situation so NO IT IS NOT OK and if I were him I'd be suing her ass off!
 
I believe the man is a POS if he did it on his own without consent but the agency has a responsibility with a persons private information. This will just lead to clients realizing it's never a good idea to give out your real info in an industry which labels the client a criminal.
 
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